Horror 'The Last of Us' HBO Series

I'll be honest, I've never played the games, I just watched my brother play it from time to time. but I kinda have an idea of everything that happens, so I'm really liking the show.
 
I don't think they're setting out to make the show lighter than the game to be honest. I think it's going for the arrogance of youth angle as both Ellie and Dina have been quite cocky so far. That slowly turned after Joel died but Ellie is too afraid to show her feelings to anyone. That changed with Dins this episode and Ellie became a lot more serious and obvious about what she was feeling after the love scene. I think the next few episodes we will see a real change in both of them but especially Ellie. I think she will become quite jaded and haunted by the end of the season considering what will happen.
 
I don't think they're setting out to make the show lighter than the game to be honest. I think it's going for the arrogance of youth angle as both Ellie and Dina have been quite cocky so far. That slowly turned after Joel died but Ellie is too afraid to show her feelings to anyone. That changed with Dins this episode and Ellie became a lot more serious and obvious about what she was feeling after the love scene. I think the next few episodes we will see a real change in both of them but especially Ellie. I think she will become quite jaded and haunted by the end of the season considering what will happen.

Why would anything else that happens haunt her or make her more jaded then what happened to Joel? That's the thrust of the story. Why she's out there.
 
Nothing can be done about the size and stature and Bella and Isabela. There's no way around them looking so small compared to everyone and everything around them, I just think the writers need to give them more certainty and determination in their actions to make up for it. Ellie is ineffectively trying to choke the WLF soldier out when she should just stab him immediately, for instance. It really does come across as a teen adventure a lot of the time.
 
Why would anything else that happens haunt her or make her more jaded then what happened to Joel? That's the thrust of the story. Why she's out there.

As they were quite safe in Jackson and Ellie and even Dina were protected by the likes of Joel and Tommy. Yes what happened to Joel was a huge shock but they're just both riding on adrenaline at the moment. At the end of this episode it seemed like it started to sink in just how ****ed up this world is outside of Jackson. And that humans are a lot worse than the cozy set up they had in Jackson.

Just my take on it all.
 
As they were quite safe in Jackson and Ellie and even Dina were protected by the likes of Joel and Tommy. Yes what happened to Joel was a huge shock but they're just both riding on adrenaline at the moment. At the end of this episode it seemed like it started to sink in just how ****ed up this world is outside of Jackson. And that humans are a lot worse than the cozy set up they had in Jackson.

Just my take on it all.
What adrenaline? They purposely extended the window between the death and pursuit. Which is why they're acting so casual all the time.

Joel isn't a "huge shock". It's Ellie losing the one person in the world that "belonged" to her. That's the driving force for the narrative and it's kind of been lost.

How bad the world is outside of Jackson is totally irrelevant, because that's not the issue. Though are we forgetting that she already had to deal with cannibals? Ones that were trying to kill her?
 
What adrenaline? They purposely extended the window between the death and pursuit. Which is why they're acting so casual all the time.

Joel isn't a "huge shock". It's Ellie losing the one person in the world that "belonged" to her. That's the driving force for the narrative and it's kind of been lost.

How bad the world is outside of Jackson is totally irrelevant, because that's not the issue. Though are we forgetting that she already had to deal with cannibals? Ones that were trying to kill her?

Yes they did extend the window which is a change I didn't like. But it all came flooding back to Ellie once she got back to the house and saw Joel's things.

And yes it is more than a huge shock losing Joel I will give you that, I think that's also why they delayed Dina and Ellie getting together. To give Ellie someone else she can open up to now, which again she will eventually lose.

And yes she had to deal with cannibals previously, but 5 years of safety in Jackson and meeting new people and making new friends and welcoming strangers changes your perspective. The Wolves and Scar stuff has already been quite shocking to them and they have barely scratched the surface. We know in the game also killing Nora effects Ellie a lot, I think it will be even more so in the show.

I also think they cut out a couple of Abby's friends to not make Ellie killing too many people and make her irredeemable in the eyes of the viewers.
 
Dina describing Ellie at the start of the episode:
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Ellie after being on stage:
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Haven’t seen any eps of season 2 cause I cant wait week to week. Needs to binge it all, but somebody please tell me my mans Tommy gets out there in full revenge mode!
 
Haven’t seen any eps of season 2 cause I cant wait week to week. Needs to binge it all, but somebody please tell me my mans Tommy gets out there in full revenge mode!
Episode 5, Jesse just showed up, mentioned Tommy is elsewhere. So he might get that in episode 6 or 7.
 
On the negative side, I thought this episode ran into the problem last week made me worry about: Ellie's emotional state not really threading the needle before she reached Nora. On the positive side, I think they've gotten sizably better at handling action/suspense scenes this season. The TV station/subway last week and the stalker/park section this week were very good. Also, a fun cold open.
 
I guess Hillcrest just wasn't in the budget. :disappointed;

Other than that, still a good episode. It's been more of a departure from Part II than the first season was to that game but I've been enjoying some of the changes, like Dina's backstory and her and Jesse being there during the Seraphite encounter.

Next week is gonna put us through the wringer.
 
On the negative side, I thought this episode ran into the problem last week made me worry about: Ellie's emotional state not really threading the needle before she reached Nora. On the positive side, I think they've gotten sizably better at handling action/suspense scenes this season. The TV station/subway last week and the stalker/park section this week were very good. Also, a fun cold open.
The Last of Us starring DINA, featuring Ellie
 
Won't Ellie have to worry about stray spores coming off of her clothes and infecting her friends? She's gonna have to really shake her clothes out well. :(
 
So since Future Days didn't come out until 2013 and Ecstasy 2006, do we think canonically that Pearl Jam and Crooked Still settled down in Jackson and kept writing? :o
 
I thought this was the weakest episode of the season so far. The adaptation choices are throwing me off, both what they choose to cut and condense. Even with clunky exposition, there's a lot of visual clues and character motivations that probably go over the head of most viewers that haven't played the game.

Cutting out the various skirmishes with factions of WLF, Seraphites and infected might seem like an obvious thing to omit for TV, but it also robs the audience of seeing Ellie and Dina being competent and ruthless. So far, every violent encounter they've had has had them scrambling and on the back foot. Ellie's waffling also feels wrong, like she's exhibiting too much self awareness for where her emotional state should be.

And cutting Hillcrest has made their time in Seattle feel incredibly rushed. Having another guitar scene felt like overkill, especially when there will probably be another one before the end of the season. There's also a distinct YA vibe that is throwing me off, as I never felt that way about the game. Maybe it's the age of the actors, of their childish behavior, but it feels more like The Hunger Games than The Road.

I did like the opening scene a lot, though, and seeing the spores in live action was cool and spooky.
 
Another mixed episode. They're really not giving Ellie her agency as she's going through her revenge tour like in the game. It feels like all the deep character stuff is going to everybody else like Dina in this ep. I thought the Nora/Ellie meet up felt so stiff and awkward. It doesn't feel like it was earned too. Also cutting out Hillcrest is a pretty tough look for the creative crew and it seems like they're getting around the budget with the night scenes. Makes you wonder what it would look like if they gave someone like Alfonso Cuaron that episode.
 
I generally like this season, but i have to concede that it’s missing, and I’m not sure where I saw it referred to as such, Ellie’s simmering savagery.
 
I don’t know what to make of this episode. On one hand it did a a great job of introducing the more radical Saraphites but the episode was way too short. That scene of them stringing up the WLF guy was straight out the video game. Including the forest territory.

The introduction scene was excellent as all ways but I was hoping to see more from those characters. What happened to Hammerhand and Park.

The Stalkers are absolutely terrifying. Somebody on YouTube stated that Elle and Dina had to deal with 11 of them. Excellent WLF trap. Just like the video game. One of the best parts of the game but Elle is alone. The show like the game can be a horror movie at times.

Overall a solid episode but I want more. I am upset that we only have two episodes left and next week is probably the real goodbye Joel episode.
 
The introduction scene was excellent as all ways but I was hoping to see more from those characters. What happened to Hammerhand and Park.
Not sure what else to ask of this: Spore debilitated them like they did Nora and keep them "alive" like all the other infected, except here they're just absorbed by the surrounding wall lining to keep producing spores.
 
Another mixed episode. They're really not giving Ellie her agency as she's going through her revenge tour like in the game. It feels like all the deep character stuff is going to everybody else like Dina in this ep. I thought the Nora/Ellie meet up felt so stiff and awkward. It doesn't feel like it was earned too. Also cutting out Hillcrest is a pretty tough look for the creative crew and it seems like they're getting around the budget with the night scenes. Makes you wonder what it would look like if they gave someone like Alfonso Cuaron that episode.
They definitely got House of the Dragon'ed on the budget this season and I guess as a tradeoff for Hillcrest we got Jackson vs. the Infected in episode 2.
 
Can someone explain to me this HotD'ing idea? This has been thrown around a lot and it almost never comes with any further explanation. I don't watch it and from what I gather online, HotD S02 seems to have scaled down its scope and was otherwise inert in terms of moving the plot along. All indications money was reined in as it didn't really take off in the way GOT did [because of the way GOT ended created hesitancy amongst the general audience]

I wouldn't say TLOU S02 suffers from this. If anything, they're moving a lot faster than I expected them too and it's coming across like they're teleporting down a Greatest Hits list. I also played the game across a long stretch of time. I would've played Ellie's portion sometime Fall 2022. What was so precious about Hillcrest besides the car chase that wasn't accomplished by the Warehouse/Jesse Save?
 

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