The "Little Things" You Appreciated/Loved Thread - Part 1

[BH/HHH]

Agree with this, even reading reviews of critics I normally like i found myself questioning them. Often I would read lines like, 'but its not light like Donners Superman,' or other such things, it was compared to the previous movies in every regard which was unfair. Empire even called the movie not very faithful to the comics. Now I normally like Empire, but MOS was probably the most comic book faithful Superman movie yet, and this is coming from someone who is a huge fan of SR.

Some of the comments in these reviews literally lead me to believe these people didnt know what they were talking about.

Definitely MOS had so much from the comics it was incredible. Even the little things like Kelex/Kelor or Superman killing Zod were straight from the comics. Empire really should do a little research lol

 

[Herolee10]

Heck, even the guy that serves as the editor at Rotten Tomatoes was surprised on how many "rotten" reviews it got.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Definitely MOS had so much from the comics it was incredible. Even the little things like Kelex/Kelor or Superman killing Zod were straight from the comics. Empire really should do a little research lol

Definitely, I couldnt believe what I was reading, especially since I normally agree with their ratings on movies. MOS was VERY faithful to the comics, it didnt get enough credit for that yet got bashed because it was totally different to the Donner movies.

Heck, even the guy that serves as the editor at Rotten Tomatoes was surprised on how many "rotten" reviews it got.

Not surprising, it is crazy to see the RT rating and then see so many people love the movie.

 

[sf2]

Another thing I notice is all the characters in MOS, male and female are very macho and gutsy.

 

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

Well more than half the critics enjoyed the movie.

It's not like it got After Earth's reception (11%).

People seem to think there's a world's difference between MOS's 55% and Thor TDW's 65%.

(not to mention that MOS had a better Top Critic score than Thor TDW. 53% compared to 41%)

 

[sf2]

Well more than half the critics enjoyed the movie.

It's not like it got After Earth's reception.

It isn't good enough. A it deserves.

anyway, the glass is only half full. Plenty is room for improvement! they r given the chance to do so.

 

[AnneFan]

I like the little moment when Jor-El's flying creature gets hit and dies. The planet was going to explode so everyone was dead anyway, but he at least died on Krypton before any of that happened. I don't know, I liked it.

 

[Herolee10]

I like the little moment when Jor-El's flying creature gets hit and dies. The planet was going to explode so everyone was dead anyway, but he at least died on Krypton before any of that happened. I don't know, I liked it.

Same here. I really enjoyed the fact that Snyder and Goyer utilized Jor-el and Lara in ways that we haven't seen on the big screen.

He really made Jor-el into a badass and actually allowed Lara to interact with someone outside of her family, which normally never happens in previous takes.

I also like how they kind of paralleled the effects that Zod and Superman had when it came to their decisions of killing someone in the film. When Zod killed Jor-el, you could see it in his face that, deep down, he didn't really want to. He even told Superman himself that it was something that haunted him ever since.

Then we have Superman who's forced to kill Zod as well and we all know on how much that took out of him.


Plus, I still can't get over that Terraforming scene. Damn, I keep rewatching the moment where Superman is lifting his hand into the air, as he attempts to fly up with all of his might in order to destroy the world engine. When you add the visuals from that moment, along with the shots of Perry/Steve trying to get Jenny out of the debris and the music that's playing throughout the entire sequence..it's just freaking beautiful. Even people who hated the film said that they enjoyed that one moment at least.

 

[charl_huntress]

I like the little moment when Jor-El's flying creature gets hit and dies. The planet was going to explode so everyone was dead anyway, but he at least died on Krypton before any of that happened. I don't know, I liked it.

I actually like that Jor had a living pet. It seemed to make his eco-quest to save Krypton naturally seem more legit. The one thing I didn't like though was I wanted him to give H'Raka a little good-bye before it died to save him. I felt the same way about them leaving Hank in the car in the first place.

Love your pets people!

 

[sf2]

Same here. I really enjoyed the fact that Snyder and Goyer utilized Jor-el and Lara in ways that we haven't seen on the big screen.

He really made Jor-el into a badass and actually allowed Lara to interact with someone outside of her family, which normally never happens in previous takes.

I also like how they kind of paralleled the effects that Zod and Superman had when it came to their decisions of killing someone in the film. When Zod killed Jor-el, you could see it in his face that, deep down, he didn't really want to. He even told Superman himself that it was something that haunted him ever since.

Then we have Superman who's forced to kill Zod as well and we all know on how much that took out of him.


Plus, I still can't get over that Terraforming scene. Damn, I keep rewatching the moment where Superman is lifting his hand into the air, as he attempts to fly up with all of his might in order to destroy the world engine. When you add the visuals from that moment, along with the shots of Perry/Steve trying to get Jenny out of the debris and the music that's playing throughout the entire sequence..it's just freaking beautiful. Even people who hated the film said that they enjoyed that one moment at least.

Ya. I only come to appreciate it when I watch it on TV. I thought it was kinda annoying in cinema. Lol. Maybe the piling is too loud and noisy.

btw, I think there is a great potential to do a TV series on krypton n jor el and zod friendship.

 

[Herolee10]

btw, I think there is a great potential to do a TV series on krypton n jor el and zod friendship.

I'm not so sure about that. I mean the budget for that show would have to be HUGE.

I would rather see a prequel done on a film than on a TV series. It's very limiting and would be a disservice in a way to what Snyder created in terms of quality. I doubt you could create Krypton to look as great as it did in MOS on a TV budget.

 

[BH/HHH]

Definitely, I couldnt believe what I was reading, especially since I normally agree with their ratings on movies. MOS was VERY faithful to the comics, it didnt get enough credit for that yet got bashed because it was totally different to the Donner movies..

They probably wanted to say it wasn't faithful to the Donner movies but didn't want to get flamed for it so they just said comics. To be honest if they just said it wasn't Donner's Superman and that's what they wanted, then you'd say at least they were been honest.

 

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

Plus, I still can't get over that Terraforming scene. Damn, I keep rewatching the moment where Superman is lifting his hand into the air, as he attempts to fly up with all of his might in order to destroy the world engine. When you add the visuals from that moment, along with the shots of Perry/Steve trying to get Jenny out of the debris and the music that's playing throughout the entire sequence..it's just freaking beautiful. Even people who hated the film said that they enjoyed that one moment at least.

Love the terraforming scene.

Whenever I watch it, and Superman begins to look up, Jonathan's words always come into my head ("I have to believe you were brought here for a reason...whoever that man is is going to change the world"), just like in the novelization.

 

[BH/HHH]

Love the terraforming scene.

Whenever I watch it, and Superman begins to look up, Jonathan's words always come into my head ("I have to believe you were brought here for a reason...whoever that man is is going to change the world"), just like in the novelization.

Maybe one day a fan edit will put that in

 

[Batmannerism]

Love the terraforming scene.

Whenever I watch it, and Superman begins to look up, Jonathan's words always come into my head ("I have to believe you were brought here for a reason...whoever that man is is going to change the world"), just like in the novelization.

Yup ! Just one more reason to love MOS

Probably mentioned this before, but I loved the fact that every time Superman/Clark does something super, it's an effort (the oil rig, the fight with Nam Ek/Faora, the world engine).
Not sure if it was Cavill or Snyder's decision, but having Superman make an audible grunt/shout when exerting himself really works. Despite his great powers he still has to struggle to get the job done.
To me, that made him a much more relatable character (Reeve's Superman was nearly infallible, whereas Cavill's was really struggling to find his way).

 

[charl_huntress]

That's a good point. Cavill's primal rage yells were something I also liked...lol. Sounds strange, I know, but I did appreciate them. They added something to whenever he used his powers. The yells made it seem like he was physically exerting himself in some fashion. It was a nice touch and helped sell the impossible, so it was believable.

 

[BH/HHH]

Yup ! Just one more reason to love MOS

Probably mentioned this before, but I loved the fact that every time Superman/Clark does something super, it's an effort (the oil rig, the fight with Nam Ek/Faora, the world engine).
Not sure if it was Cavill or Snyder's decision, but having Superman make an audible grunt/shout when exerting himself really works. Despite his great powers he still has to struggle to get the job done.
To me, that made him a much more relatable character (Reeve's Superman was nearly infallible, whereas Cavill's was really struggling to find his way).

I loved that too, one of the reasons been my favourite interpretation of Superman is Superman the Animated Series and in that they also showed the effort.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

They probably wanted to say it wasn't faithful to the Donner movies but didn't want to get flamed for it so they just said comics. To be honest if they just said it wasn't Donner's Superman and that's what they wanted, then you'd say at least they were been honest.

Exactly, would have at least made their point.

Yup ! Just one more reason to love MOS

Probably mentioned this before, but I loved the fact that every time Superman/Clark does something super, it's an effort (the oil rig, the fight with Nam Ek/Faora, the world engine).
Not sure if it was Cavill or Snyder's decision, but having Superman make an audible grunt/shout when exerting himself really works. Despite his great powers he still has to struggle to get the job done.
To me, that made him a much more relatable character (Reeve's Superman was nearly infallible, whereas Cavill's was really struggling to find his way).

For the majority of the movie I liked this, I always think it adds something when the character has to roar in defiance to beat something or hold it back, similar to the train scene in Spiderman 2, I loved it in MOS most of the time.

BUT, at the same time, I think they used it just a little too much in the movie, especially in the finale. Superman does when taking out the world engine, then is doing it 3 mins later when he is flying away from the phantom drive. Didnt think they needed to use it twice in such a short space of time. Loved the rest of the moments it was used though, particularly the oil rig scene.

 

[Batmannerism]

Exactly, would have at least made their point.

For the majority of the movie I liked this, I always think it adds something when the character has to roar in defiance to beat something or hold it back, similar to the train scene in Spiderman 2, I loved it in MOS most of the time.

BUT, at the same time, I think they used it just a little too much in the movie, especially in the finale. Superman does when taking out the world engine, then is doing it 3 mins later when he is flying away from the phantom drive. Didnt think they needed to use it twice in such a short space of time. Loved the rest of the moments it was used though, particularly the oil rig scene.

Fair call. It might not have been totally necessary when flying away from the collapsing phantom drive-black-hole, but it certainly was when taking out the world engine. If they had to drop one out, that would be the one, and perhaps one more would have been too many.

Personally, it worked for me though, and in general, those moments shows an emotional side of Superman, which was a nice touch.

Like Huntress said, it was a little thing that made the impossible a little more believable.

Also, his primal shouts are slightly different. The one he gives when he slams Faora into the garbage truck is pretty much rage, as is the shout when he lets rip with the heat vision against his two kryptonian adversaries. The shout when he takes on the world engine, and the oil rig, is a shout of supreme effort -not so much anger, but really giving it everything he's got.

People have criticized Cavill's performance as wooden, (considering what we're talking about an odd criticism indeed) but I still say he was an under-stated Superman - a man of few words, but Cavill clearly conveyed what he was thinking in every scene, often with a look rather than dialogue.

 

[Herolee10]

Just out of curiosity, did anyone here have any thoughts about "Nam-ek" (the large kryptonian dude that Superman fought in Smallville)?

If so, for a character who's face we never really saw and who was entirely composed of CGI, did you guys find the character menacing or intimidating at all? Or was he somewhat forgettable?

 

[bluearth]

Thanks to blurays clarity, Ive noticed some smaller details

At the end of the 'first flight' scene when hes looking down from the clouds you can see him smile

A single tear rolls down his face when hes on his knees after the Zod battle

 

[BH/HHH]

I WILL FIND HIM!

Loved this scene and I appreciated that it wasn't something they dwelled up and was only said in that one scene. They didn't try and turn it into a cool one liner like Kneel Before Zod (which is of course cool as hell) or I'm always around (seriously Singer thought this would catch on?)

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Fair call. It might not have been totally necessary when flying away from the collapsing phantom drive-black-hole, but it certainly was when taking out the world engine. If they had to drop one out, that would be the one, and perhaps one more would have been too many.

Personally, it worked for me though, and in general, those moments shows an emotional side of Superman, which was a nice touch.

Like Huntress said, it was a little thing that made the impossible a little more believable.

Also, his primal shouts are slightly different. The one he gives when he slams Faora into the garbage truck is pretty much rage, as is the shout when he lets rip with the heat vision against his two kryptonian adversaries. The shout when he takes on the world engine, and the oil rig, is a shout of supreme effort -not so much anger, but really giving it everything he's got.

People have criticized Cavill's performance as wooden, (considering what we're talking about an odd criticism indeed) but I still say he was an under-stated Superman - a man of few words, but Cavill clearly conveyed what he was thinking in every scene, often with a look rather than dialogue.

Yeah I just think him doing it while flying away from the phantom drive was one time too many, and in such a short space of time. The rest of the time I loved it, like each of the ones you mentioned.

I love, LOVE that scene were he unleashes his heat vision on Zamek and Faora.

Also, I just cant get my head around people claiming Cavill was wooden, I saw some great little subtleties he did with just his facial expression at times that a wooden actor simply wouldnt be able to pull off.

I WILL FIND HIM!

Loved this scene and I appreciated that it wasn't something they dwelled up and was only said in that one scene. They didn't try and turn it into a cool one liner like Kneel Before Zod (which is of course cool as hell) or I'm always around (seriously Singer thought this would catch on?)

Yeah that was great, the way Zod just kept repeating it until he just roared it as one last bit of defiance before he was sent to the Phantom Zone, great stuff.

 

[charl_huntress]

People have criticized Cavill's performance as wooden, (considering what we're talking about an odd criticism indeed) but I still say he was an under-stated Superman - a man of few words, but Cavill clearly conveyed what he was thinking in every scene, often with a look rather than dialogue.

Well said Batmannerism! Cavill's performance truly made MOS a highlight for me. There were so many understated moments where he just shined without saying a word. One scene in particular is after Zod's message to earth when he's standing in the Kent house. Cavill's stance at that moment is so... "super". It's perfect, and when Martha drops the bowl of fruit he doesn't even flinch. Another moment is inside the scout ship when he's being confronted by the sentry. He raises his arms in a gesture that says I'm friendly...but you can also tell he's not afraid. There were a lot of moments like that, so I don't know why anyone would or could call that performance wooden. He brought a lot to the role, and that's undeniable for me.

I can't wait to see his Clark. If given the chance I think he can bring a new dynamic to the role that's as lovable and impressionable as Reeve's performance was.

Just out of curiosity, did anyone here have any thoughts about "Nam-ek" (the large kryptonian dude that Superman fought in Smallville)?

If so, for a character who's face we never really saw and who was entirely composed of CGI, did you guys find the character menacing or intimidating at all? Or was he somewhat forgettable?

Hmmm...good question, Herolee. I think the CGI may have hurt poor Nam'ek. After the battle in SV, I realized that they didn't show the characters face. I started a game of find Nam'ek's face, but I lost. Not seeing his face diminished his menacing factor because he was...faceless.

 

[manofsteel4life]

Well said Batmannerism! Cavill's performance truly made MOS a highlight for me. There were so many understated moments where he just shined without saying a word. One scene in particular is after Zod's message to earth when he's standing in the Kent house. Cavill's stance at that moment is so... "super". It's perfect, and when Martha drops the bowl of fruit he doesn't even flinch. Another moment is inside the scout ship when he's being confronted by the sentry. He raises his arms in a gesture that says I'm friendly...but you can also tell he's not afraid. There were a lot of moments like that, so I don't know why anyone would or could call that performance wooden. He brought a lot to the role, and that's undeniable for me.

I can't wait to see his Clark. If given the chance I think he can bring a new dynamic to the role that's as lovable and impressionable as Reeve's performance was.

Hmmm...good question, Herolee. I think the CGI may have hurt poor Nam'ek. After the battle in SV, I realized that they didn't show the characters face. I started a game of find Nam'ek's face, but I lost. Not seeing his face diminished his menacing factor because he was...faceless.

Yea huntress I brought the stance up awhile back....super indeed!