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Guys, you're arguing in circles at this point and we get it. Let the argument go.
 
Covid hurt the MCU, Strikes hurt the MCU, Overproducing content hurt the MCU.

I just wanna see Rhodey get a chance to finally shine.
 
A Doctor Strange 3 movie should have been fast tracked since 2022. Multiverse of Madness is turning 3 next year. And a 4 year gap between sequels is still too long.
 
The second one was 6 years after the original and performed "better".
 
The second one was 6 years after the original and performed "better".
Well why did it perform better? Dr. Strange appeared in Infinity War/Endgame, don't you think that would have done something? Also Scarlet Witch was in the movie + the Professor.
 
Marvel has fumbled so much when it came to the character of War Machine and Don Cheadle. Dude has probably lost so many good roles waiting on Armor Wars as a series and now as a film and still nothing.
 
Since it's more and more likely Armor Wars doesn't happen, I sure hope he has a role in Doomsday.
 
Marvel has fumbled so much when it came to the character of War Machine and Don Cheadle. Dude has probably lost so many good roles waiting on Armor Wars as a series and now as a film and still nothing.

I doubt he has lost any good roles because of Armor Wars. If they want to use the character before the show (now movie) comes out, absolutely nothing prevents them from doing that. Hell, he was the second biggest star (sort of) in one of their other shows just last year.

And as for Cheadle (not War Machine), he's free to take whatever work he wants/can get unless and until Marvel actually sets a production date for the movie. And he has been working over the last few years (even outside of Secret Invasion/What If?).
 
Since it's more and more likely Armor Wars doesn't happen, I sure hope he has a role in Doomsday.
Well what were they thinking upgrading a TV series to a theaterical film anyway? When they probably initially decided to give Rhodey his own show because he is not appealing enough to headline a solo film (which is probably the case with Hawkeye, Vision and Scarlet Witch).

And they probably know reverting Armor Wars as a tv series won't sound good as well and now we are here, with will still it happen or not? The lack of hindsight with these shows is truly MCU's biggest blunder.
 
I think they are being extra careful after a few flops (which they didn't have for like 10 years in a row) and they aren't green lightning anything without a proper, solid foundation. That's my guess.
 
Quantumania underperforming and The Marvels flopping definitely caught them off guard. But even if those two movies were successful, they still added 4 place holder film dates for a single year (2022 to 2025 iirc), while also planning to do at least 4 shows for Disney+ per year, and it affected the quality of the movies, and the shows didn't really live up to their potential as Marvel Studios was doing so many projects at the same time. Vfx time management was also terrible based from reports.

I don't know why no one at Disney didn't see it as doing way too much, and because of it, they are facing repercussions from decisions they made 3 to 4 years ago.
 
Quantumania underperforming and The Marvels flopping definitely caught them off guard. But even if those two movies were successful, they still added 4 place holder film dates for a single year (2022 to 2025 iirc), while also planning to do at least 4 shows for Disney+ per year, and it affected the quality of the movies, and the shows didn't really live up to their potential as Marvel Studios was doing so many projects at the same time. Vfx time management was also terrible based from reports.

I don't know why no one at Disney didn't see it as doing way too much, and because of it, they are facing repercussions from decisions they made 3 to 4 years ago.

Because Disney was chasing a Netflix (over)valuation and needed to accelerate subscriber growth for their fledgling streaming app. Marvel could seemingly do no wrong at that time, so why not feed the masses with an all you can eat MCU buffet.

Quality be damned if it gets the company a 500m dollar market cap.
 
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Because Disney was chasing a Netflix (over)valuation and needed to accelerate subscriber growth for their fledgling streaming app.
And they clearly had other ips to mine and there are other studios out there that could produce content for Disney+. It still doesn't make to give a single studio that amount of projects in such a short period of time. Some movies take 5 years to make. Releasing 8 different projects in a single year is such a recipe for disaster, the most popular brand in the world isn't immuned from that.

Quantumania and Eternals became the first two rotten films in RT. The other mcu shows don't seem popular. Blade and Armor Wars are in limbo. Brave New World and Daredevil went through extensive reshoots. The Marvels flopped.
 
And they clearly had other ips to mine and there are other studios out there that could produce content for Disney+. It still doesn't make to give a single studio that amount of projects in such a short period of time. Some movies take 5 years to make. Releasing 8 different projects in a single year is such a recipe for disaster, the most popular brand in the world isn't immuned from that.

Quantumania and Eternals became the first two rotten films in RT. The other mcu shows don't seem popular. Blade and Armor Wars are in limbo. Brave New World and Daredevil went through extensive reshoots.

Hey, I agree with you. Completely pivoting on a work environment that had been thriving for over a decade across their different studios was risky and bound to create issues, short term and long. I'm just stating the reason why. Either become a tech company or get swallowed up by one seemed to be the psychology at play.

Things seem to be at least somewhat reverting back to the old ways of doing business. Now the new topic/ issue seems to be the future usage of AI.
 
In hindsight streaming services are doing more damage than good. Every major studio has a platform that needs to constantly make crap to keep subscribers. Is like the old days of direct-to-video again only with better cinematography.
 
In hindsight streaming services are doing more damage than good. Every major studio has a platform that needs to constantly make crap to keep subscribers. Is like the old days of direct-to-video again only with better cinematography.

It's basically reverting back to the cable bundle with these streamers now. The walled garden approach and controlling user data wholly still requires an insane amount of content spend. Its just not sustainable as a business for Hollywood studios.

Subscribers over quality. Its not just Marvel who suffered, its all studios. The only production company/studio that seems to have pulled through somewhat unscathed with streaming is FX.
 
I guess it goes without saying---how I am pumped for galactus in FF 4 25; I hope he isn't just a one off...

There have been a bunch of delays and i know doomsday and secret wars are coming but why not next year? hehehe Marvel is just so far ahead of DC and i wonder if cavil will actually be captain britan. By the way I just wanna point out how much i love captain marvel and i realize she has alot on her plate with her films solo that is but i loved her in endgame for sure.

I really wish Garfield had a chance to be in the MCU; in a much bigger role then just what he's had but im glad he made the big time with NWH atleast.
 

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