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[Cap2024]

It's really sad that some right-wingers think that Peltz and Perlmutter will suddenly be able to right the MCU ship.

All they will do is put a stop to projects with diverse casts and directors.

Right wingers love those two because of the bigotry, the two go hand in hand.

They can’t stand having anyone who isn’t a straight, white, male in a film, show, comic, or book period. Whether it’s a classic diverse IP, a new entirely original tale, or a remake where the race didn’t matter in the original. They find minorities existing in ancient societies to be “unrealistic” and they find minorities existing in future science fiction worlds to be “pandering.” They scream for minorities to make their own franchise, but when a gay man does (Chucky) - they even scream that the gay man is “pandering” for using his own franchise to tell stories inspired by his own adolescence. They fight to keep books about any minority out of the library, even public ones meant for all. They can’t stand seeing minorities out in the open either - thus, why they always say to “keep it in the bedroom” when a gay couple acts the same way as a straight couple or tell us immigrants to “go back.”

This is all to say - they want those two because of the bigotry rather than it being something that is just an eerie bonus for them. Minorities basically not existing (out of sight, out of mind) is their shared goal.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

My hypothesis is that Disney+ is taking money away from Disney theatrical.

Additionally, you notice for the MCU that the first weekend multipliers have shrank since Disney+ became a thing in 2019 and has gained many more subscribers since its launch. The MCU movies are reaching the 90% mark of their total domestic gross faster. So my hypothesis is that for all Disney movies beyond just the MCU that Disney+ is also zapping their stamina, their staying power, in theaters as well.

This table doesn't adjust for inflation, for the higher ticket prices over the years. So the drop off (in tickets sold and box office) is a bit more dramatic than the table's numbers show.

 

[Vilya]

 

[Sithborg]

I strongly suspect that video will **** up my recomendations.

 

[Kane52630]

Chris Gore used to be cool when he was on G4... now he's just a dude yelling at clouds. "99% of movies today are garbage" can only sort of make sense if you only watch mainstream blockbusters with high budgets and even then that number and idea are ridiculous.

- signed, dude who watches a lot of movies

 

[blueharvest]

 

[psylockolussus]

Hmmm, I have my doubts he could handle a big amount of cast members aka superpowered characters.

 

[Comicbookguy339]

https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/disney-prevails-over-trian-board-fight-sources-say-2024-04-03/

Walt Disney Co has secured enough shareholder votes to defeat a challenge against its board mounted by Nelson Peltz's hedge fund Trian Fund Management, people familiar with the matter said on Tuesday.

Enough votes had been cast as of Tuesday evening to put Disney's board directors safely ahead of Trian's two challengers, that included Peltz and former Disney chief financial officer Jay Rasulo, the sources said.

Blackwells Capital, another hedge fund that nominated three board director candidates at Disney, was also unsuccessful in its attempt, the sources said.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

He would have destroyed Disney.

 

[OrbOfConfusion]

He would have destroyed Disney.

More or less than the company is already doing right now? Especially with how they and other companies have been shedding streaming subscribers.

 

[Venom 1988]

More or less than the company is already doing right now? Especially with how they and other companies have been shedding streaming subscribers.

Knowing everything we know about Nelson and Ike and their history, sorry but this is kinda dumb to say. This is not to say Disney has been great at handling things these last several years but it absolutely would have been way worse had Nelson and co got their way.

 

[Spider-Fan]

More or less than the company is already doing right now? Especially with how they and other companies have been shedding streaming subscribers.

Yeah, this is a silly question, lol! Have you heard this guy talk? He is clueless and would have run the company into the ground hard. We can not be happy with the state of our favorite IPs and also recognize a complete joke and a moron in the making at the same time. This investor guy is a joke

 

[OrbOfConfusion]

Knowing everything we know about Nelson and Ike and their history, sorry but this is kinda dumb to say. This is not to say Disney has been great at handling things these last several years but it absolutely would have been way worse had Nelson and co got their way.

I don't disagree that Nelson would have made things worse, but the company hasn't exactly been peaches and cream recently either, lest we forget Iger's completely tone deaf comments during the writer's and actor's strike.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I don't disagree that Nelson would have made things worse, but the company hasn't exactly been peaches and cream recently either, lest we forget Iger's completely tone deaf comments during the writer's and actor's strike.

Sure, but this dude is an obvious clown show. I can be eating a pizza and think this is an awful pizza, and then when someone comes and craps on it and then asks me to eat it and see if it's better, well.....you just crapped on an already bad pizza. Yeah it's worse

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Sure, but this dude is an obvious clown show. I can be eating a pizza and think this is an awful pizza, and then when someone comes and craps on it and then asks me to eat it and see if it's better, well.....you just crapped on an already bad pizza. Yeah it's worse

A good comparison is Twitter. Twitter was bad. Now it is any better now since Musk bought it? Because this guy was completely out the Musk playbook. Musk was even backing him in his takeover attempt.

 

[Venom 1988]

I don't disagree that Nelson would have made things worse, but the company hasn't exactly been peaches and cream recently either, lest we forget Iger's completely tone deaf comments during the writer's and actor's strike.

I haven't forgotten Iger's comments and I'm not saying everything is currently great at Disney either. I just don't see the point of playing devil's advocate in this situation. Just because things aren't going great at Disney doesn’t mean I want worse people in positions of power.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

I wouldn't trust the direction of Disney in the hands of a guy like Peltz where 'woke' is code for the N word and where women characters have to play second fiddle. Sure Iger may say some stupid things from time to time, but he's not completely tone deaf like Peltz.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I wouldn't trust the direction of Disney in the hands of a guy like Peltz where 'woke' is code for the N word and where women characters have to play second fiddle. Sure Iger may say some stupid things from time to time, but he's not completely tone deaf like Peltz.

Well...not AS tone deaf, lol! Iger's comments during the strike showed he is a but tone deaf. But not in same ballpark as this clown

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Well...not AS tone deaf, lol! Iger's comments during the strike showed he is a but tone deaf. But not in same ballpark as this clown

I think much of what Iger said could come from any executive. They are all going to be extremely anti-labor. Not saying it is right, just that I don't see anyone else being much better in that regard. At best they keep their mouths shut and think it secretly.

What Peltz wants is more uniquely awful.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I think much of what Iger said could come from any executive. They are all going to be extremely anti-labor. Not saying it is right, just that I don't see anyone else being much better in that regard. At best they keep their mouths shut and think it secretly.

That's why I think it was tone deaf for precisely that reason. If you are super rich, it's like your brain dies cause any rational person should know that the types of things he is saying are not going to resonate with anyone other than super rich elites. It boggles my mind how these rich people can be so stupid or so deluded into thinking they're the victim and not like...listen to themselves talk.

 

[OrbOfConfusion]

On an unrelated note, today is the 10 year anniversary of Captain America: The Winter Soldier.

And 10 years later, Marvel Studios has still not topped this movie- and probably never will, in my opinion.

 

[Comicbookguy339]

Can't believe they're still not giving up on stuff like Armor Wars and Vision Quest.

 

[Venom 1988]

Nothing much in the way of news but just further confirmation that Destin is still working on Shang-Chi 2

"Cretton is currently in postproduction on Wonder Man, a series starring Yahya Abdul-Mateen II for Marvel, and is also working on a Shang-Chi sequel"

Destin Daniel Cretton Launches Banner Hisako, Taps Jeyun Munford as President (Exclusive)

The 'Shang-Chi' filmmaker is teaming with the former Universal exec on the shingle.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

 

[SwordOfMorning]

Oh good, a video by the world's dumbest man. People like Chris Gore are a cultural disease.

 

[psylockolussus]

Can't believe they're still not giving up on stuff like Armor Wars and Vision Quest.

I mean, if they are THAT stubborn and not willing to lose some projects, in this case, Armor wars (that could just come and go). It would show that they didn't learn anything from The Marvels flopping.

Also I keep waiting when they said they would slow down the annual releases. Those two being filmed this year or neXt year, when they still have Daredevil, Wonder Man and Ironheart in the vault. What If and X-Men 97 are also in deep production for their neXt season...

As for X-Men, if they are filming neXt year, that would mean the new X-Men would be out in 2 years. That's fast.