the massive plothole thread

[The Joker]

Joker finding the mob boss hideout and Peter finding Ock's lair are not plot holes. It is merely something that happened off screen and by the flow of logic set up, you can determine what happened or you can choose to say it is a plot hole because they didn't spoon feed it to you.

But that's just it, there was no logical set up for Harry to ever know where Ock was. There's no guide book to where multi-armed super villains might set up house in New York

Joker was established as a man who knows the operations and running's of Gotham's mob from the get-go, as he steals from one of their own banks where they launder their money. So it stands to reason he knows other stuff about them, too, like where they might meet up.

Once again, Jack Bauer never pees, poops, eats, and the only time he sleeps is when he is unconscious. I can either choose to think he does those things at some point or I can choose to think that it is a plot hole because it doesn't show it or explain it.

You really need to stop talking about Jack Bauer's poop

AWESOME!!

Why thank you. I'm quite proud of it myself.

Now I am confused and slightly jealous.

No need for confusion. I've always been a Spider-Man 2 supporter.

 

[Eggyman]

ah, c'mon guys, picking the minutiae from movies we love if fun t:

So is writing posts I understand

 

[chaseter]

You really need to stop talking about Jack Bauer's poop

To be completely honest, one of the hours needed to be him sitting down with a magazine and taking a good number 2

 

[BestGirl]

It's one school bus with debris on top of it, a line of dust trailing form it, and scratch marks and dents in the rear from backing up and crashing through a wall. Not that hard to notice in a line of pristine school buses. If you have 20 Lambos lined up and one hit a deer...would you be able to pick it out of the crowd?

I mean look at all the school bus drivers, no one thought it was weird that a school bus drove out of a big hole in a bank and got in line with the other buses? Nobody outside saw it?

But, it really isn't a plot hole...it is a convenience which doesn't make the movie worse. I accepted it because superhero movies are fantastical. I mean if we all want to get critical, we can pick apart every movie ever made.

I think Jonah Nolan gave an interview in which he claimed the other bus drivers were the Joker's henchmen, but I can't swear to it.

 

[Eggyman]

I think Jonah Nolan gave an interview in which he claimed the other bus drivers were the Joker's henchmen, but I can't swear to it.

Swear to me!

 

[BestGirl]

swear to me!

nevah!

 

[Travesty]

I don't think it is a plot hole. A plot hole goes against the logic established by the plot. Like in Blade Runner, the replicants want to live longer and one of them chooses to become a stripper?

A plot hole is a gap or inconsistency within the story. I think you're forgetting that some of those things include "illogical or impossible events". It's pretty impossible to know that your bus will line up with the other buses in an exact manner.

So The Joker knew he can get away because he knows that other school buses are going to let him merge precisely at the right moment? And in no way can that go wrong for him? Some of you said, "Gotham has green-lights". Well, you know what, it also has red-lights, and what if just one of those buses was caught behind a red-light. Or what if Joker never put the grenade in the bank tellers mouth? Or what if they never got into a gun-fight?

Sure, The Joker could use a vehicle to rob a bank, but it was the very disappearing act of "camouflaging" himself with other buses in broad daylight, along with his impeccable timing, that was so impossible. If he just used a schoolbus, and got outta there, sure, it wouldn't be an issue, but the issue is that it's impossible to think that you will automatically be camouflaged with other buses, just because you drive a bus too.

Nah, it's nitpicking, and oddly enough most of the so called plotholes that aren't plotholes are comic movies

But that's the very thing, a lot of nitpicks are plot holes(not all, some include continuity and set errors).

I feel like some of you think that a plot hole only constitutes of a omission or a contradiction from the story line, when that's not true at all. There are many things that contribute to a plot hole, one of which includes "illogical or impossible events".

Most the non-comic movie plotholes mentioned are true; like the magic floor from Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade

Of course it is, because it contradicts what was already told to us, which goes with the very definition.

 

[Eggyman]

nevah!

I've said it before: I'm glad you exploded.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

I always thought a plot hole was something introduced in a movie that does not perform the same as it does in real life.

A plot hole is a hole in the plot. It's part of the story that seems like it is missing, that just doesn;t make sense when you think about it.

 

[ross2287]

Is the thing with Cobb using Mal's totem in Inception a plot hole?

 

[Kevin Roegele]

Here are some famous plotholes...

1. How come Marty's McFly's parents don't remember that they saw their own son as a grown up back in 1955?

2. The entire timeline of The Empire Strikes Back makes no sense. Luke getting trained by Yoda on Degobah surely takes longer than Han, Leia and co going to see Lando, but the two plots are intercut.

 

[C. Lee]

Here are some famous plotholes...

1. How come Marty's McFly's parents don't remember that they saw their own son as a grown up back in 1955?

2. The entire timeline of The Empire Strikes Back makes no sense. Luke getting trained by Yoda on Degobah surely takes longer than Han, Leia and co going to see Lando, but the two plots are intercut.

1. He was someone they knew for a couple of days over 30 years ago....plus he slowly grew into the looks he had.

2. It never said that Luke trained under him for a long time...plus Yoda complains about him running off before finishing his training.

 

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

2. The entire timeline of The Empire Strikes Back makes no sense. Luke getting trained by Yoda on Degobah surely takes longer than Han, Leia and co going to see Lando, but the two plots are intercut.

With no hyperdrive and Bespin being far away from the Imperial fleet, it's reasonable to believe that it took them a few days, maybe a week to reach Cloud City. It's just that the film did a bad job of showing that.

 

[Lighthouse]

Memento. If Leonard can't form new memories, how does he know about his memory condition?

 

[HighFivingMF]

Memento. If Leonard can't form new memories, how does he know about his memory condition?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0209144/faq#.2.1.31

 

[Gamma Ray]

The Star Wars prequels.

 

[marvelman2006]

The Star Wars prequels.

I wonder if lucas even went back and rewatched the original trilogy, the prequels just dont match up at all with the stories he tried to connect.

some things that bugged me:

- anakin was never fully fleshed out and not given a dark edge, he just up and turned bad because the emperor asked him to.

- Most of the characters were boring and not that interesting

- lucas went overboard on cgi just a little

- Padme just up and died over a broken heart and lost the will to live, even though she just had twins and they need a mom.

- too many characters that came in and went no where except to further the story and not deviate one bit. (ex:maul, grevious, dooku, countless jedi)

- the acting was so wooden I got a splinter by the second movie.

- vader when he screams nnnooooooooooooooooooo

did I mention lucas raped my childhood?

 

[Gunga Diner]

vader when he screams nnnooooooooooooooooooo

This didn't bother me. Within the context of the film, he'd earned it to get to be a little operatic.

The Dark Knight is one of my favorite films, and I've never understood the backlash. The movie is just as outstanding and powerful every time I return to it. But one thing always bothered me: When the Joker drives the bus out of the bank and into the line of traffic, how does he not get caught? How does the bus driver behind him watch a bus drive out of a hole in the bank wall and not call the police? or the bus in front of him for that matter?

 

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

The bus drivers could very well be Joker henchmen.

 

[marvelman2006]

This didn't bother me. Within the context of the film, he'd earned it to get to be a little operatic.

The Dark Knight is one of my favorite films, and I've never understood the backlash. The movie is just as outstanding and powerful every time I return to it. But one thing always bothered me: When the Joker drives the bus out of the bank and into the line of traffic, how does he not get caught? How does the bus driver behind him watch a bus drive out of a hole in the bank wall and not call the police? or the bus in front of him for that matter?

ya know whats funny I havent heard any bad things about the dark knight till I started reading this thread. I always was under the impression people loved it and overall accepted as the godfather of comic book movies but now it seems like pure hatred.

 

[Travesty]

ya know whats funny I havent heard any bad things about the dark knight till I started reading this thread. I always was under the impression people loved it and overall accepted as the godfather of comic book movies but now it seems like pure hatred.

I think most of that comes from me. And yes, I'm not a fan of the movie.

 

[Gunga Diner]

ya know whats funny I havent heard any bad things about the dark knight till I started reading this thread. I always was under the impression people loved it and overall accepted as the godfather of comic book movies but now it seems like pure hatred.

If you think it's bad here, just wait til you see 4chan's /tv/ thread.

On second thought, don't ever go on 4chan. Or talk about it openly. OH WAIT.

 

[spider-neil]

I absolutely 'LOVE' TDK, but it's flawed.

 

[LOBO3315a]

A plot hole is a hole in the plot. It's part of the story that seems like it is missing, that just doesn;t make sense when you think about it.

I conceeded that a little later on that my understanding of the term was flawed. I don't seem to be the only one, however.

Regardless would the one I mentioned about in Transformers count? If the 'extreme cold' of ice could make Megatron helpless and what the humans were spraying Bumblebee could too, why didn't Starscream fall asleep when he broke orbit?

 

[Travesty]

I conceeded that a little later on that my understanding of the term was flawed. I don't seem to be the only one, however.

Regardless would the one I mentioned about in Transformers count? If the 'extreme cold' of ice could make Megatron helpless and what the humans were spraying Bumblebee could too, why didn't Starscream fall asleep when he broke orbit?

It could, but I don't know how cold that spray was, and how cold orbit is. I know it creates ice crystals, but I dunno. You may have to stay in the cold for a long duration of time, not just a few minutes in orbit, but again, I dunno. It kinda sounds like one.....