the massive plothole thread

[SKSpawn]

The bigger plothole was the T-1000 itself. In the first movie they clearly establish that only living matter can travel back in time. This is why time travelers arrive in the present naked. It's not just an excuse to expose us to Arnie's naked butt.



The T-1000 had no living flesh and blood. It was made out of 100% mercury (or at least a mercury like metal). Therefore it never should have been able to travel back in time. If the time machine had been updated to allow nonliving matter to travel through time, then why did the terminators arrive in the present naked? And why didn't Arnie bring better weapons with him? And for that matter, why didn't the the T-1000?

While you're right, of course, and I kick myself for not noticing this, I think the explanation of this is that the audience is supposed to believe that Robert Patrick is another human soldier, like Reese, and that Arnold is the villain again. Watch the film up until when Arnold says "get down!" and you see how it is shot to imply that Arnold's Terminator is evil, as in the first film.

Though you're still right lol.

 

[LOBO3315a]

Space orbit is the coldest thing next to Absolute Zero we know of.
If length of exposure was the case, Megatron never should have been encased in ice. He would have thought "Hmm, I want the All Spark, but where it landed is too cold for me to retrieve it. I know, I'll enslave some of these pathetic Humans to go there and get it for me!"
And if it takes a long time for it to work, Starscream woulda been out of comission WAY before he made it back to Cybertron. He's an jet plane, not a spaceship with hyperdrive.

 

[BestGirl]

Here's a TDK plothole that may not have been brought up: how did Bruce know the Joker was coming to the penthouse? He knocked Harvey out before the elevator doors opened.

I've said it before: I'm glad you exploded.

And you should be boiled or scrambled.

 

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

He was outside, probably looking down at the right moment, and saw a bunch of clowns getting out of a car and coming into the building. No second guesses who they were coming for.

 

[BestGirl]

He was outside, probably looking down at the right moment, and saw a bunch of clowns getting out of a car and coming into the building. No second guesses who they were coming for.

Good point. Harvey and Rachel did leave him on the balcony.

 

[chaseter]

There is no where else for Joker to escape but out the front door...down where Batman and Rachel were. That really annoyed me in TDK but I heard reports that a scene was filmed but cut from the movie that explained where the Joker went.

 

[nachtschicht]

What makes you guys think they took the front door? I find it hard to believe that a building like that'd only have one exit, tbh. Even the four story building I live in has...two and a half.

 

[chaseter]

Because it is a vertical building and not a sprawling horizontal building. There are not a ton of escape roots. Heck, if Bruce had stayed in the lobby he would have seen them. There wasn't a parking garage and no other buildings were connected to it. Plus, it isn't a shoddy building where fire escapes and stairs litter the outside floors.

 

[Doctor Jones]

I really didn't care all that much as to how the Joker escaped. I mean it's common sense. What was the entire point of throwing Rachel out the window? Escape of course. There is a scene of the Joker driving away, but there was no point to it really. I also think it was cut because of the Nolans claims of Joker as an absolute or an entity. You never see him by himself or in private. He's always in a public place with people. Other than the Prewitt Building and the hospital, but you of course need to show him doing those things himself for plot purposes. The car scene and the bus bit where he is by himself was cut for either pacing or to fit in with the Nolan's view of the character. Plus, if you're gonna blow up a building and go through the trouble of it, **** the more intimate things and show it exploding.

 

[chaseter]

Yeah I think a scene was filmed and was cut, but in the context of the film, you would have to escape a vertical building at the bottom floor and you just sent your enemy to the bottom to retrieve the girl you just threw out the window. It is like trying to escape an angry dog by throwing a steak towards the gate.

 

[Doctor Jones]

And it's not like he could of just waited inside the building and held the entire party hostage saying he would kill everyone in the room if Batman didn't reveal himself.

Wait...

 

[nachtschicht]

I'm pretty sure there're stairs inside the building in case of fire or power outage or whatever. You're right though, they'd have to get down to ground floor before Batman went back inside, so even if there is another way out it'd be...difficult, because he's already there.

Now I really wish they'd shown us, OTOH I don't because Doc Jones is right.

[..] I also think it was cut because of the Nolans claims of Joker as an absolute or an entity. You never see him by himself or in private. He's always in a public place with people. [..]

Yes, and it's fab.

And it's not like he could of just waited inside the building and held the entire party hostage saying he would kill everyone in the room if Batman didn't reveal himself.

Wait...

Crap, I need to watch the movie again....

 

[Thundarr]

I highly doubt a building that size would have had just one exit. That would be a HUGE fire code violation if that were true. And just because none of the main characters arrived through the parking garage doesn't mean they don't have one. The apartment building I lived in a couple years ago had a parking garage, but I never entered that way because I don't drive. But that doesn't mean it wasn't there.

 

[Doctor Jones]

We all know Joker escaped the penthouse with a parachute with a smiley face on it.

 

[HighFivingMF]

AFTER raiding the bar.

 

[Bill]

While you're right, of course, and I kick myself for not noticing this, I think the explanation of this is that the audience is supposed to believe that Robert Patrick is another human soldier, like Reese, and that Arnold is the villain again. Watch the film up until when Arnold says "get down!" and you see how it is shot to imply that Arnold's Terminator is evil, as in the first film.

Though you're still right lol.

I think that the T-1000 was able to mimic human skin down to the molecular structure so that it was a thin layer over the polymimetic alloy. The Robert Patrick form was a human that he "sampled" before he made the jump.

 

[VenomVsSpidey]

- lucas went overboard on cgi just a little

Funny, he actually used more models in the PT that the OT.

did I mention lucas raped my childhood?

Over-exaggerate much?

Also,since everyone will ignore this, might as well post anyway, even though I'm tired of doing so : on how the joker left the penthouse, it was explained in the novel, and there's a picture of a cutscene with joker escaping.

Edit, found it :

 

[Brother Jack]

Funny, he actually used more models in the PT that the OT.

Yeah, you're gonna need a link to verify that one.

 

[batman11]

Here's a TDK plothole that may not have been brought up: how did Bruce know the Joker was coming to the penthouse? He knocked Harvey out before the elevator doors opened.

Spoiler

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He's Batman.

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[Travesty]

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He's Batman.

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That, or maybe since it's Bruce's personal penthouse on the top floor, along with his own personal elevator(which is his door), he may have cameras in his own elevator leading to his penthouse?

 

[VenomVsSpidey]

 

[Gamma Ray]

Funny, he actually used more models in the PT that the OT.

Even if that was true, who care? Every goddamn scene has CGI in it. It's sickening.

 

[marvelman2006]

Even if that was true, who care? Every goddamn scene has CGI in it. It's sickening.

aside from the wooden acting I think this my biggest problem with PT. it was to the point where I kinda sat back and said, isnt this just alittle excessive? I think lucas tried to do what cameron did for avatar and tried to make the cgi believable but at the time the cgi technology just wasnt that advanced. I can bet they will clean up the prequels before they hit bluray.

 

[batman11]

That, or maybe since it's Bruce's personal penthouse on the top floor, along with his own personal elevator(which is his door), he may have cameras in his own elevator leading to his penthouse?

It's not "or," as the answers are one in the same. I thought that cameras, security, badassery, etc. was implied when I said he was Batman. But, yes, if you need to spell it out, then that is correct.

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[Travesty]

It's not "or," as the answers are one in the same. I thought that cameras, security, badassery, etc. was implied when I said he was Batman. But, yes, if you need to spell it out, then that is correct.

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