The McCain Thread

Who will be McCain's runningmate?

  • Mitt Romney (former Governor of Massachussets)

  • Mike Huckabee (former Governor of Arkansas)

  • Rudy Giuliani (former mayor New York)

  • Charlie Christ (current governor of Florida)

  • Fred Thompson (former US Senator of Tennessee)

  • Condaleeza Rice (Secretary of State)

  • Colin Powell (former Secretary of State)

  • JC Watts (former Republican chairman of Republican House)

  • Rob Portman (Director of Office of Management and Budget)

  • Tim Pawlenty (Governor of Minnesota)

  • Bobby Jindal (Governor of Lousiana)

  • Mark Sanford (Governor of South Carolina)

  • Lindsey Graham (US Senator of South Carolina)

  • Sarah Palin (Governor of Alaska)

  • Kay Hutchinson (US Senator of Texas)

  • John Thune (US Senator of South Dakota)

  • Haley Barbour (Governor of Mississippi)

  • Marsha Blackburn (US Tenessee Representative)

  • Joseph Lieberman (US Senator of Connecticut)

  • Sonny Perdue (Governor of Georgia)

  • George Allen (former US Senator of Virginia)

  • Matt Blunt (Governor of Missouri)

  • some other US Senator, congressman

  • some other Governor

  • some dark horse like Dick Cheney


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Today in Columbus, Ohio John McCain declared his predictions for his first Presidential term achievements.

He said that the Iraq War will be over by 2013 and "most of the troops" will be home.

Osama Bin Laden will be killed or captured.

He also believes that in 2013, there still will not have been a "major terrorist attack in the United States since September 11, 2001."

Other milestones McCain hopes to see at the end of what would be his first term are:

Witnessing Russia and China cooperating in "pressuring Iran to abandon its nuclear ambitions, and North Korea to discontinue its own."

Significantly increasing the size of the Army and Marine Corps, which will be "better equipped and trained to defend us."

The application of "stiff diplomatic and economic pressure" by the United States -- acting in concert with a newly formed League of Democracies -- to cause Sudan to agree to a multinational peacekeeping force, with NATO countries providing logistical and air support, to stop the genocide in Darfur.

Several years of robust economic growth.

Taxpayers filing under a flat tax.

The world food crisis ending, low inflation, and a "much improved" quality of life "not only in our country, but in some of the most impoverished countries around the world."

More accessible health care for Americans and an easing of pressure on Medicare because of lower health care costs.

A United States well on its way to "independence from foreign sources of oil."

A Social Security system that is solvent, does not reduce benefits for those nearing retirement and includes individual retirement accounts.

The confirmation of "scores of judges" to the federal district and appellate courts, including the U.S. Supreme Court.

A secure southern border for the United States after "tremendous improvements to border security infrastructure and increases in the border patrol, and vigorous prosecution of companies that employ illegal aliens."



So what do you think? Is he on target? Or "losing his bearings" as some have suggested?




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McCain predicts Iraq War over by 2013
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/15/mccain.2013/index.html
 
Just because you fought doesn't make you an expert tactician.
 
Hmmmm 2013?

Looks like the dems just won the Whitehouse
 
I don't think even McCain has the crystal ball to predict when the Iraq war will end, if we don't pull out the troops and decide to stay there infinitely. Even if what he said is true (and that's a big IF), McCain's optimistic forecast still calls for 4 more years of this war. Why should Americans stomach another 4 years of this?
 
I don't think even McCain has the crystal ball to predict when the Iraq war will end, if we don't pull out the troops and decide to stay there infinitely. Even if what he said is true (and that's a big IF), McCain's optimistic forecast still calls for 4 more years of this war. Why should Americans stomach another 4 years of this?


To quote Bush - "If we don't...the terr'rrists win!"
 
"He said that the Iraq War will be over by 2013 and "most of the troops" will be home."

You left out that in the same breath he said by 2013 Iraq will be a real Democracy.But the best part of this entire spiel was he started off by saying he was giving us an idea of what he would like to accomplish in his presidency,..And then the more he talked the more Nostrodamusy he started to sound.
 
The only one I can see happening and think would work would be the flat tax, and that one's still pretty slim.
 
Or sane apparently. One day we're there for 100 years, the next he'll have us out in four? He's either pandering, crazy, or both. :down

I'm betting both.

Everyone here knows what I feel about the Flat tax :down:

Everyone knows you, SuperBeyond, the Magical Tax Elf. It is said that if you say the word "Fair Tax" three times, he'll suddenly appear, dance a jig, slap you in the face with the manual if you disagree with it, and flee.

It is a Hype parable from eons past.
 
Well, based on the latest, it seems like McCain is trying to distance himself from Bush and move back into the middle. Making comments like including Democrats in his cabinet should go a long way to convincing undecided independents. I mean, Obama can talk about unity until the cows come home, but when he is dividing his own party in such an extreme manner, well, its not going to work. McCain is really the only candidate in this election with a consistent record of crossing party lines. Him drifting back to his in the middle, maverick persona is bad news for Barack Obama.
 
It's quite obvious that McCain is simply playing politics with this. I'll believe it when I see it.
 
It's quite obvious that McCain is simply playing politics with this. I'll believe it when I see it.

It would be obvious, were it not for the fact that McCain has a long record of working across the aisle. Considering his record and ignoring party for a moment (as I know very few of the Democrats here are willing to give a Republican benefit of the doubt), I'd say its far more obvious that the past few years of pandering to the far right has been "playing politics," where as this seems more like "getting back to his roots," so to speak.
 
It would be obvious, were it not for the fact that McCain has a long record of working across the aisle. Considering his record and ignoring party for a moment (as I know very few of the Democrats here are willing to give a Republican benefit of the doubt), I'd say its far more obvious that the past few years of pandering to the far right has been "playing politics," where as this seems more like "getting back to his roots," so to speak.

I can't trust a politician who lacks that much consistency. After all, wasn't Kerry slaughtered for flip flopping over the issues four years ago? How is this not the same with McCain? He adamantly opposed the Bush tax cuts; now he supports them. He spoke out against activist judges several years ago; now he's vowed to appoint the same activist conservatives to the Supreme Court. He used to have a decent record on preserving abortion rights; now he's adamantly pro-life. There are other examples too... at this stage in the game, when you're 72 and decide to change your mind so frequently on the issues, it means one of two things: 1) You're playing politics, or 2) you're losing your mind. He's changed his mind on so many positions I really have no idea what he stands for, if he stands for anything at all.

Seriously, McCain is no more of a "maverick" than Obama is a "moderate."
 
I can't trust a politician who lacks that much consistency. After all, wasn't Kerry slaughtered for flip flopping over the issues four years ago? How is this not the same with McCain? He adamantly opposed the Bush tax cuts; now he supports them. He spoke out against activist judges several years ago; now he's vowed to appoint the same activist conservatives to the Supreme Court. He used to have a decent record on preserving abortion rights; now he's adamantly pro-life. There are other examples too... at this stage in the game, when you're 72 and decide to change your mind so frequently on the issues, it means one of two things: 1) You're playing politics, or 2) you're losing your mind. He's changed his mind on so many positions I really have no idea what he stands for, if he stands for anything at all.

Seriously, McCain is no more of a "maverick" than Obama is a "moderate."

If you don't remember the stances you had before you flipped on them, how can you be held accountable for them? :cwink:
 
Well I guess that's one way McCain can say he's like Reagan...

I'm telling ya Jman, John McCain concerns me quite a bit. (More and more with every outragious speech and/or confusion.)
 
I can't trust a politician who lacks that much consistency. After all, wasn't Kerry slaughtered for flip flopping over the issues four years ago? How is this not the same with McCain? He adamantly opposed the Bush tax cuts; now he supports them. He spoke out against activist judges several years ago; now he's vowed to appoint the same activist conservatives to the Supreme Court. He used to have a decent record on preserving abortion rights; now he's adamantly pro-life. There are other examples too... at this stage in the game, when you're 72 and decide to change your mind so frequently on the issues, it means one of two things: 1) You're playing politics, or 2) you're losing your mind. He's changed his mind on so many positions I really have no idea what he stands for, if he stands for anything at all.

Seriously, McCain is no more of a "maverick" than Obama is a "moderate."

Maybe not, but perception is everything, and if McCain can create the perception Obama is in deep ****.
 
Maybe not, but perception is everything, and if McCain can create the perception Obama is in deep ****.

The differences between Obama and McCain will be very obvious. (Whether it is personality, policy, etc.)
 
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