The McCain Thread

[Rated-X]

Guess who wants the VP position?

http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonat..._says_hed_take_Veep_calls_McCain_Big_Dog.html

 

[Matt]

That would be the worst possible choice for McCain.

 

[The Senator]

That would be the worst possible choice for McCain.

It would also be the worst move ever for Romney, who could very well run and win in 2012.

 

[Matt]

Crazy prediction...IF the Democrats win in 2008...and right now I do not believe they will because Hillary is going to sink whoever the nominee is (be it Obama or herself by dragging this out until people get sick of both of them) but if they do...some governor you've never heard of who is young, conservative (but not tied to the neo-cons like Bush), charasmatic, and attractive is going to come out of nowhere (ala Bill Clinton) to beat Clinton or Obama in 2012. We are due for a 1 term president and these rockstar candidates that the media has created can never live up to the image both their campaigns and the media created for them. There is bound to be disappointment when after all the talk of change, things essentially remain the status quo. I honestly think Sarah Palin is a possibility if she does not sign on as McCain's running mate (and considering she is pregnant she probably won't be). Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota and Bobby Jindal of New Orleans and Matt Blunt of Missouri are other possibilities.

 

[Chris B]

To jump in on the VP discussion for a minute, recently I've come to believe that Mark Sanford from South Carolina would be the ideal running mate for John McCain. He's a young, Southern Governor with a solid conservative record on social issues and reenforces McCain's message of fiscal responsibility. He seems like a decent fit.

 

[lazur]

The Obama thread has 3,179 replies. The McCain thread has 86 (87 with mine)...

Just an observation. :P

 

[The Senator]

The Obama thread has 3,179 replies. The McCain thread has 86 (87 with mine)...

Just an observation. :P

McCain and the Republican primary are about as exciting as a can of spam, so it only makes sense.

 

[The Senator]

Crazy prediction...IF the Democrats win in 2008...and right now I do not believe they will because Hillary is going to sink whoever the nominee is (be it Obama or herself by dragging this out until people get sick of both of them) but if they do...some governor you've never heard of who is young, conservative (but not tied to the neo-cons like Bush), charasmatic, and attractive is going to come out of nowhere (ala Bill Clinton) to beat Clinton or Obama in 2012. We are due for a 1 term president and these rockstar candidates that the media has created can never live up to the image both their campaigns and the media created for them. There is bound to be disappointment when after all the talk of change, things essentially remain the status quo. I honestly think Sarah Palin is a possibility if she does not sign on as McCain's running mate (and considering she is pregnant she probably won't be). Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota and Bobby Jindal of New Orleans and Matt Blunt of Missouri are other possibilities.

Matt Blunt has zero chance, considering he's a very unpopular, one-term governor. Bobby Jindal might have a chance, but that depends how good a job he does cleaning up Louisiana. He'd have the same factors Obama has... ethnicity, inspiring backstory... with a full, stellar resume to run on (he was well-established in the House before he became governor). I think Jindal would be a very good choice for the Republicans in 2012.

But I honestly think Romney will pull a Reagan and become the immediate, pragmatic frontrunner. His 'graceful' exit proves that he's positioning himself for a run in the future, and many Republicans will remember that when primary season arrives. I know it may be way too soon to make predictions... but I think Romney/ Jindal will be the 2012 GOP ticket, which might crush whoever the Democrat is, especially if they manage to screw up big time... which isn't out of the realm of possibility...

 

[Marx]

"The presumptive Republican presidential nominee said he was concerned about Iran developing nuclear weapons and said he planned to work closely with European allies to create strict sanctions that would be harmful and compelling to Iran's trade, diplomatic and financial institutions if he is elected president."

This coming from the same man that changed the lyrics of the Beach Boy's song "Barbara Ann" to "Bomb Iran."

We can't even figure out Afghanistan and Iraq! Can someone help me understand why they would vote for McCain?


http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/18/mccain.comments/index.html

 

[blackcobra]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMaaDbGgsKA&eurl=http://truthabouttrinity.blogspot.com/



Conservatives, please, I want to see all of you renounce, and reject everything this pastor is saying. This is much worst then anything Pastor Wright has said. This is quite chilling. Proof that the so called liberal media is myth.

 

[The Senator]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMaaDbGgsKA&eurl=http://truthabouttrinity.blogspot.com/



Conservatives, please, I want to see all of you renounce, and reject everything this pastor is saying. This is much worst then anything Pastor Wright has said. This is quite chilling. Proof that the so called liberal media is myth.

I haven't watched the video, but I know plenty about McCain's religious issues.

McCain has a history of religious problems. First, he was an Episcopalian, then tip-toed out of that church and became a Baptist so he could pander to evangelical voters. His current pastor thinks Hurricane Katrina was God's revenge on New Orleans for having a gay pride parade earlier that year. That alone disgusts me.

But I think a fundamental difference between McCain and Hagee, if one has to be made, is that McCain has only been a Baptist for a few years, versus Obama's relation to Wright which has lasted for two decades. However, Obama did one better by at least trying to distance himself from Wright, while McCain explicitly sought Hagee's endorsement last year and the two have stood hand in hand several times on the campaign trail.

It's nice to know that if either McCain or Obama are elected, both will have received advice and political help from hate-spewing imbeciles. That's certainly going to do wonders for society

 

[lazur]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMaaDbGgsKA&eurl=http://truthabouttrinity.blogspot.com/



Conservatives, please, I want to see all of you renounce, and reject everything this pastor is saying. This is much worst then anything Pastor Wright has said. This is quite chilling. Proof that the so called liberal media is myth.

I wouldn't call myself a 'conservative', not socially anyway, but the guy was talking about ABORTION - not a deliberate action on the part of the government to cause 'genocide' to any particular race. He pulled out a statistic, which is indeed factual, that 25% of all African American babies have been aborted, thus equating the 'circumstance' to 'genocide'.

He also did not 'insult' America, or make blatantly false accusations about something our country is perceived to have done.

I do not equate the two, sorry.

 

[Memphis Slim]

I wouldn't call myself a 'conservative', not socially anyway, but the guy was talking about ABORTION - not a deliberate action on the part of the government to cause 'genocide' to any particular race. He pulled out a statistic, which is indeed factual, that 25% of all African American babies have been aborted, thus equating the 'circumstance' to 'genocide'.

He also did not 'insult' America, or make blatantly false accusations about something our country is perceived to have done.

I do not equate the two, sorry.

And we as black people are participating in the killing of our own babies!!! That's not just a "white man" conspiracy. Rev, Wright supports Roe v Wade in one of his rants! It's insane!!

 

[bell110]

I say we don't vote for ANYBODY who goes to church.

 

[Tron5000]

I say we don't vote for ANYBODY who goes to church.

I say you're just afraid of people who have a close relationship with their God.

 

[bell110]

So, I was watching the news, and McCain and Lieberman were hobnobbing around in Israel. Makes me wonder about the possibility of a McCain-Leiberman ticket.

 

[bell110]

I say you're just afraid of people who have a close relationship with their God.

No, I have a close relationship with God. It just seems some people who go to church are down right whacky.

 

[Matt]

Lieberman has already said he would not do it.

Though it would be an interesting event.

Firstly, Democrats would lose control over the Senate, wouldn't they? They have a 51-49 control, correct? I'd assume if Lieberman agreed to be McCain's running mate, he'd caucus with the Republicans (hell, the Democrats would throw him out). Making it 50-50 with Cheney breaking ties.

Still, Lieberman would make a horrible choice for McCain. McCain is going to need a young, energetic, charasmatic, minority. Not another old, white, Washington insider.

 

[Tron5000]

No, I have a close relationship with God. It just seems some people who go to church are down right whacky.

But you previously said "ANYBODY who goes to church." Now you amend that to "some people who go to church"? Well, which is it? Shall we discount every individual who attends church, or should we analyze each individual to determine whether or not they are "down right whacky"? Which is it?

 

[Matt]

But really, when are we going to start hearing more talk about McCain's VP choice? He should be making his search very public while the Democrats attack each other. It will keep him on the front pages, but not in a negative light such as saying things that suggest invading Iran.

 

[The Senator]

I personally don't care much about which religion a candidate follows. They can be a Christian, a Jew, Muslim or Hindu, and that would have zero effect on who I vote for. Mind you, there are exceptions, such as the Westboro Baptist Church, but for the most part, religion is the least of my concerns when I vote.

The problem with Wright has nothing to do with which religion Obama follows, nor whether he believes in what Wright preached during his sermons. What matters is Obama's obvious lack of judgment. It isn't a wise move to appoint someone to a top position in your campaign if they have a history of spewing hate speech. In my opinion, I would have concerns over whether I could trust a candidate to appoint the right people to his cabinet or other political positions, when he hired someone like Wright. It makes me question what an Obama administration might look like, and I'm worried because after this incident, I honestly can't answer that. So my concern is judgment, rather than faith.

 

[SuBe]

I personally don't care much about which religion a candidate follows. They can be a Christian, a Jew, Muslim or Hindu, and that would have zero effect on who I vote for. Mind you, there are exceptions, such as the Westboro Baptist Church, but for the most part, religion is the least of my concerns when I vote.

The problem with Wright has nothing to do with which religion Obama follows, nor whether he believes in what Wright preached during his sermons. What matters is Obama's obvious lack of judgment. It isn't a wise move to appoint someone to a top position in your campaign if they have a history of spewing hate speech. In my opinion, I would have concerns over whether I could trust a candidate to appoint the right people to his cabinet or other political positions, when he hired someone like Wright. It makes me question what an Obama administration might look like, and I'm worried because after this incident, I honestly can't answer that. So my concern is judgment, rather than faith.

100% agreed Jman.

 

[bell110]

I thought Lieberman already swiched to Independent after he lost his democratic nom for the senate.

 

[Matt]

He is, but he caucuses with Democrats.

 

[The Senator]

But really, when are we going to start hearing more talk about McCain's VP choice? He should be making his search very public while the Democrats attack each other. It will keep him on the front pages, but not in a negative light such as saying things that suggest invading Iran.

I mean.... VPs aren't usually decided until the summer. I think McCain would be wise to let his campaign work in increments. Right now, he's going around the country and the world, meeting with leaders and respected officials, while showing us how capable he is on international affairs (whether you agree with his politics or not, he is certainly doing a good job of meeting with folks abroad and striking up early relationships/ alliances). In a few months... he'll search for and have his VP... and the two will focus explicitly on the homefront... then you've got the convention, then the last few weeks of campaigning, and it's over.

Obviously, whoever McCain picks as his VP will be crucial, since the man will probably croak during his inauguration speech. But he doesn't want the press to start focusing on his VP search closely, only to have national interest die down by the time he announces his running mate in June or July.