The McCain Thread

[The Senator]

Well then the joke is shot to ****.

It's a picture of Graham holding a sign which reads "I'm a big ole nelly bottom."

 

[Marx]

Yeah, those damn red "X"'s bring people out of the closet every time.....lmao.

 

[The Senator]

Here, it's at this link:

http://www.outsidethetent.com/photos/graham_bottom.jpg

 

[hippie_hunter]

Out of the top choices (Romney and Pawlenty), I'm willing to bet that it will end up being Romney. He brings a great fundraising ability, he's good at challenging Obama. He can help win Michigan. He can probably get most conservatives to shut the hell up about McCain. And his major strength was the economy.

Out of the dark horses (Lieberman, Palin, Powell, and Ridge), I'd bet with Palin. Overall, the national media doesn't really know about her scandal and it seems to be more of a very petty one than one of actual importance and if investigators find her innocent then it'll fly over. McCain has been considered to want a woman or minority. And she's compatible with McCain's stances.

 

[Matt]

McCain chief won't rule out one-term pledge
http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0808/McCain_chief_wont_rule_out_oneterm_pledge.html

I honestly think if McCain does it, he wins. People are sick of partisan politics and are sick of candidates who are only looking to serve themselves. Promising only one term shows that McCain is to an extent above that. But I don't think he will. McCain feels entitled. He paid his dues, and he feels its his time to have eight years.

 

[Matt]

I'm sorry, but this is the worst, most childish, most egotistical of any presidential campaigns that I have ever seen. As an educator, it will be like swallowing vomit as I take my students into November.

McCain is an "old jack of asses, dumb ass" and Obama is an "arrogant jack of asses".......and I doubt that even debates are going to change my opinion. To be honest, the debates will probably only strengthen my opinion.

Kel summed up my views perfectly

 

[Marx]

I honestly think if McCain does it, he wins. People are sick of partisan politics and are sick of candidates who are only looking to serve themselves. Promising only one term shows that McCain is to an extent above that. But I don't think he will. McCain feels entitled. He paid his dues, and he feels its his time to have eight years.

Even if he does promise one term (which I don't believe he will because of said entitlement,) who is to say that he won't renig?

 

[Matt]

Even if he does promise one term (which I don't believe he will because of said entitlement,) who is to say that he won't renig?

If he tried to renig, basically every Republican hopeful in the country would try to oust him via the primary and because of his promise, he may very well lose. He would destroy his legacy and go down as one of history's biggest jack asses. If he makes the promise, he'll have no choice but to keep it. It would be a brilliant campaign move...but I doubt he'll do it.

 

[Matt]

I can't see McCain taking ego out of the equation and going with anyone but the guy he likes. That, IMO, brings it down to Pawlenty and Lieberman and Lieberman said no.

 

[Marx]

If he tried to renig, basically every Republican hopeful in the country would try to oust him via the primary and because of his promise, he may very well lose. He would destroy his legacy and go down as one of history's biggest jack asses. If he makes the promise, he'll have no choice but to keep it. It would be a brilliant campaign move...but I doubt he'll do it.

Yeah, because we all know how much politicians like to keep their promises!

 

[Matt]

It would be McCain's "no new taxes." There are some promises in politics you just can't renig on. That would be one of them.

 

[Marx]

I can't see McCain taking ego out of the equation and going with anyone but the guy he likes. That, IMO, brings it down to Pawlenty and Lieberman and Lieberman said no.

You heard it hear first! Matt's calling it!

P A W L E N T Y!

 

[Marx]

It would be McCain's "no new taxes." There are some promises in politics you just can't renig on. That would be one of them.

I would be very surprised if he pulled that stunt. Then again, if it would help his chances of winning a close contest, it could sway some peoples minds.

 

[Matt]

I think it would ensure he wins the independent vote. But like I said, he feels entitled. He probably won't do it.

 

[Marx]

I think it would ensure he wins the independent vote. But like I said, he feels entitled. He probably won't do it.

But he's not going get the independent vote if he picks a hardcore conservative as his running mate. His turn towards the harder right is already turning off some.

 

[Matt]

Hmm, I dunno. I think McCain's advisors are probably telling him Romney or Palin. Powell would be good if it were not for the fact that he is tied so deeply to Bush...furthermore, Powell's only reason for being on the ticket would be to bring in the black vote and frankly, he won't sway enough black voters from Obama to make a difference. Ridge won't deliver PA, so he is moot. Plus he has ties to Bush as well. So yeah, I imagine McCain's advisors are telling him to pick Romney or Palin...probably Romney due to Palin's scandal (no matter how moot) and fund raising.

But McCain likes Pawlenty and I just can't see McCain taking his ego out of the equation and picking the guy he doesn't like, regardless of if that guy could very well give him the election.

 

[Matt]

I don't see any of his short listers outside of Ridge being so conservative that they will alienate independents. And Ridge isn't all the conservative, more just tied to Bush. The only person so conservative they would've alienated indies was Jindal and he removed himself from the running.

 

[The Senator]

I'm still going to say that Rep. Eric Cantor is a probable choice at this point. He's young, high ranking, Jewish and from Virginia. He is regarded as a true conservative and would definitely appeal to the Republican base.

Pawlenty won't put Minnesota into the Republican column, Romney won't deliver Michigan, Palin is inexperienced and comes from one of the least important states in the country, Joe Lieberman is too liberal (and too old), Ridge is past his prime, and Powell is not only too old, but he doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who wants the job. At this point, Cantor is McCain's best pick if he wants to please just about everyone in the GOP and if he has any shot at wooing independent voters.

 

[The Senator]

It would be McCain's "no new taxes." There are some promises in politics you just can't renig on. That would be one of them.

I thought McCain's speech two weeks ago where he said he wouldn't raise taxes was his "no new taxes"?

 

[Matt]

Hehe, touche.

 

[Matt]

I disagree with your assessment about Romney. Romney alone will not deliver Michigan. Romney combined with his millions of dollars dumping non-stop ads of Obama's treatment towards Michiganians during the whole primary fiasco could turn Michigan red.

 

[jaguarr]

McCain and Pawlenty are BFF! :heart: I'll be shocked if that's not his pick.

jag

 

[The Senator]

I disagree with your assessment about Romney. Romney alone will not deliver Michigan. Romney combined with his millions of dollars dumping non-stop ads of Obama's treatment towards Michiganians during the whole primary fiasco could turn Michigan red.

I think it will be an uphill battle and I strongly doubt that Michigan cares enough about him or the Democratic Primary to go red this year. Moreover, as long as McCain is accepting public financing, Romney won't be able to dump unlimited amounts of money into a state which has one of the highest advertising fees in the country. If Michigan was still up in arms over the Democratic Primary, then Obama would be consistently down in opinion polls from that state. The vast majority of polls I've read from Michigan show Obama ahead by 3-6 points. In a state where Democrats always squeak out minor victories, it seems most likely that the Democrats will continue to carry this state this year.

 

[jaguarr]

I thought McCain's speech two weeks ago where he said he wouldn't raise taxes was his "no new taxes"?

If only he'd have said "read my lips" somewhere in that speech. It would have been beautiful.

jag

 

[The Senator]

McCain and Pawlenty are BFF! :heart: I'll be shocked if that's not his pick.

jag

I believe Pawlenty is at the top of McCain's shortlist and is a very likely choice for the position. Which I think would be swell, since Pawlenty would be the equivalent of McCain picking a jar of mayonnaise as his running mate.