The McCain Thread

[redfirebird2008]

Yeah, I think Russia invading Georgia was so that McCain would be elected.............


yep.................

No, I mean the missile defense thing in Poland.

 

[Kelly]

No, I mean the missile defense thing in Poland.

Yep, Poland wanting to speed up that process because Russia just invaded a former Soviet Republic......and they could be next (in their mind).......yeah............that is a part of it as well.

 

[redfirebird2008]

Yep, Poland wanting to speed up that process because Russia just invaded a former Soviet Republic......and they could be next (in their mind).......yeah............that is a part of it as well.

You do realize Georgia itself is on the wrong side of that issue right? Jingoism against the big bad Russians will not change the fact that the Georgian government was treating that region like crap. Poland has nothing to do with it and it's not about Russian imperialism.

 

[redfirebird2008]

And don't get me wrong. I can't stand the Russians. Hate Putin and don't trust him or his current puppet President. In the case of Georgia, however, it's not as simple as Russian imperialism.

 

[Doug]

Dude, he changed his mind on abortion in a matter of a few days. At the religious forum recently, he gave a 100% right wing answer. And just a few days later his campaign was backpedaling and moving more to the center on that issue. He has flip-flopped on torture within this campaign, from the beginning of the primaries to the beginning of the general election campaign. He's a triangulator to the extreme. Didn't Bush promise to be a consistent conservative while in office? Well, McCain has never shown consistency in his positions throughout his career, so I would not expect him to suddenly become consistent in office.

I thought Mac has always been pro-life...
Mac is a right winger except for some issues
Torture... I never thought he was for torture, especially because he was tortured..

Bush said that he would be conserve the spending.. he of course did not..
McCain said that he wants to stop pork barrel spending which would stop a hell of a lot of spending.. thats what I was referring too and I am stupid for not explaining that.. message boards have trouble reading my mind...
my dog has no problems reading it though

 

[jaguarr]

And don't get me wrong. I can't stand the Russians. Hate Putin and don't trust him or his current puppet President. In the case of Georgia, however, it's not as simple as Russian imperialism.

Okay, comrade.

jag

 

[The Senator]

I've become so jaded that this afternoon it struck me that someone connected to McCain's campaign could have done this as a way to play the "victim" card and to be able to point to it and say "Terrorists are still trying to get us! We need a man with real military experience to handle them! A man like John McCain! And the terrorists know it, that's why they sent these threats!". And it seemed not entirely out of the realm of possibility when I thought of it, too. It'd be very Rovian.

jag

Yeah, I've considered that to be a possible scenario as well. However, the idealist in me hopes that this isn't the case.

 

[The Senator]

Torture... I never thought he was for torture, especially because he was tortured..

Maybe he's a masochist

 

[redfirebird2008]

Yeah, I've considered that to be a possible scenario as well. However, the idealist in me hopes that this isn't the case.

Same here. I want to trust that it's just an honest incident, but it's very difficult to not be cynical. Regardless, I hope they catch the perpetrator, whoever it may be.

 

[redfirebird2008]

According to Mark Halperin of Time Magazine, a couple of Republican sources are telling him that McCain has decided on Mitt Romney as his running mate.

http://thepage.time.com/

What does everyone think of this? I think it's probably the best choice he could have made in order to avoid pissing off the conservatives.

 

[Marx]

According to Mark Halperin of Time Magazine, a couple of Republican sources are telling him that McCain has decided on Mitt Romney as his running mate.

http://thepage.time.com/

What does everyone think of this? I think it's probably the best choice he could have made in order to avoid pissing off the conservatives.

If this is true, I guess we'll have to wait and see how this affects the independent vote.

 

[The Senator]

According to Mark Halperin of Time Magazine, a couple of Republican sources are telling him that McCain has decided on Mitt Romney as his running mate.

http://thepage.time.com/

What does everyone think of this? I think it's probably the best choice he could have made in order to avoid pissing off the conservatives.

While that may be true with the average conservatives, the hardcore Christofascist wing of the Republican Party will probably be a bit hesitant on Romney considering he's a Mormon.

 

[redfirebird2008]

While that may be true with the average conservatives, the hardcore Christofascist wing of the Republican Party will probably be a bit hesitant on Romney considering he's a Mormon.

I wouldn't be so sure of that. I've got a co-worker who's a southern Baptist, listens to Rush every day, and he told me he wanted Romney instead of McCain. I know there's plenty of prejudice against Romney due to religion, and it's at least partially why he lost the primary, but he will not cause them to stay home in such massive numbers like Lieberman or Ridge would. There will be some who do stay home, but plenty of them will still fall-in-line.

 

[Superman]

I've become so jaded that this afternoon it struck me that someone connected to McCain's campaign could have done this as a way to play the "victim" card and to be able to point to it and say "Terrorists are still trying to get us! We need a man with real military experience to handle them! A man like John McCain! And the terrorists know it, that's why they sent these threats!". And it seemed not entirely out of the realm of possibility when I thought of it, too. It'd be very Rovian.

jag

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that.

8 years ago I would never have thought of such a thing, Even from the Right, But after the crap BushCo and the Neo-Cons have pulled over the past 8 years nothing would surprise me.

 

[The Senator]

If Romney is McCain's running mate, then I hope to hell Obama has selected Joe Biden as his. Biden will kick Romney's ass in a debate, especially on foreign policy, and even more so if Romney tries to pull that whole "Democrats support Jihad" bull **** he pulled earlier this year when he withdrew from the race.

 

[redfirebird2008]

If Romney is McCain's running mate, then I hope to hell Obama has selected Joe Biden as his. Biden will kick Romney's ass in a debate, especially on foreign policy, and even more so if Romney tries to pull that whole "Democrats support Jihad" bull **** he pulled earlier this year when he withdrew from the race.

At this point, these are the 4 I would be happy with:

Biden - always liked him plus he is good at kicking ass against McCain and Bush as we saw earlier this year when Bush used Israel's anniversary as a chance to take a political shot at Obama.

Chris Dodd - again, I've always liked him and he seems like a decent man to me.

Hillary - only she can get those primary Clinton voters on board that currently are holding out plus she adds a ton of excitement to the campaign I feel.

Wes Clark - holy crap would he ever kick McCain's ass...the P.O.W. argument as McCain's strength would be neutralized.

 

[Superman4ever]

I've become so jaded that this afternoon it struck me that someone connected to McCain's campaign could have done this as a way to play the "victim" card and to be able to point to it and say "Terrorists are still trying to get us! We need a man with real military experience to handle them! A man like John McCain! And the terrorists know it, that's why they sent these threats!". And it seemed not entirely out of the realm of possibility when I thought of it, too. It'd be very Rovian.

jag

That's exactly how I feel. Now, I PRAY that no one gets hurt and that this is all just powdered sugar and a horrible prank, but McCain and his campaign have been lying like hounds (it's actually been VERY demoralizing that our nation has come down to this in just a few years). He's running such a sleazy campaign, I, unfortunately, wouldn't put it beneath McCain or his campaign to pull such a horrible gag (as fear-tactic) on the voting public.

However, if this is "real" I hope they catch this person(s) quick, and G-d willingly, without anyone getting hurt. But I'm having a tough time believing this.

 

[The Senator]

As much as I despise LOLcats with a mother****ing passion, and often can't stand Daily Kos, I stumbled across Kos and almost fell out of my chair with laughter when I saw this pic:

It's probably not funny at all, but it's 1:33 am and my sense of humor has gone to bed before I have. I think.

 

[redfirebird2008]

As much as I despise LOLcats with a mother****ing passion, and often can't stand Daily Kos, I stumbled across Kos and almost fell out of my chair with laughter when I saw this pic:

It's probably not funny at all, but it's 1:33 am and my sense of humor has gone to bed before I have. I think.

Don't feel bad. It IS funny.

 

[rdh007]

Maybe McCain wants a threeway?

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12711.html

"Making matters more confusing, Politico has learned that McCain will visit suburban St. Louis for a major rally with Romney and his still-bitter primary nemesis Mike Huckabee on Sunday, Aug. 31, the day before the start of the GOP convention."

 

[StorminNorman]

Sounds like Romney is the man.

Also - **** Huckabee.

 

[Marx]

Sounds like Romney is the man.

Also - **** Huckabee.

 

[The Senator]

Sounds like Romney is the man.

Also - **** Huckabee.

**** them both, I say. Lock both of them in a cage and drop them into the core of a volcano. That's really what's best for all of us, I think.

 

[Marx]

**** them both, I say. Lock both of them in a cage and drop them into the core of a volcano. That's really what's best for all of us, I think.

Or we could just have a Political Thunderdome match! Two men enter, one man leave...





(We could always tweak the rules though. )

 

[souvlaki]

Asked what first comes to his mind when he thinks of Pittsburgh, McCain chuckled, “the Steelers. I was a mediocre high school athlete but I loved and adored the sports but the Steelers really made a huge impression on me particularly in my early years.”

And then McCain told a rather moving story about his time as a P.O.W. “When I was first interrogated and really had to give some information because of the pressures, physical pressures on me, I named the starting lineup, defensive line of the Pittsburgh Steelers as my squadron mates.”

“Did you really?” asked the reporter.

“Yes,” McCain said.

“In your POW camp?” asked the reporter.

“Yes,” McCain said.

McCain has always said he told his interrogators the names of the lineman of the Green Bay Packers. But McCain wasn’t campaigning in Wisconsin; he was campaigning in Pittsburgh — so the story “evolved” to include the Steelers. (From a football perspective, the story doesn’t even make sense. The great Steelers defensive line — with names McCain would know — didn’t appear until after McCain returned home. The Steelers were pretty bad when McCain was captured.)

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/16172.html





So not only does he bring out yet another POW story, but it changes depending on what state he visits.