The McCain Thread

[jaguarr]

I read about this a while back. But didn't Obama end up endorsed by a radical group of some kind? Possibly the PLO?

I'm not entirely sure either way... but at least this means McCain can't attack Obama if he was endorsed by an international terrorist organization...

I know Hamas endorsed Obama at one point and then retracted it when he said he was a staunch supporter of Israel.

jag

 

[jaguarr]

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aeghFwlE.ALU&refer=home

McCain Says He's Closing Poll Gap Before Election Day (Update1)

By Jeff Bliss

Oct. 26 (Bloomberg) -- Republican presidential nominee John McCain, lagging in most national polls, compared himself today to legendary Notre Dame football coach Knute Rockne and said he is closing the gap between himself and Democrat Barack Obama.

``I feel like Knute Rockne at halftime,'' McCain said on NBC's ``Meet the Press'' program. ``We are doing fine. You're going to be up very late on election night.''

McCain, 72, said some surveys, such as one conducted by Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby, show him only a few points behind. The election ultimately will be decided by voter turnout, he said.

McCain is campaigning in Iowa, where a Quad City Times-Lee Enterprises poll shows Obama with a 15 percentage point lead.

In a Rasmussen Reports national tracking poll, Obama, 47, leads McCain 52 percent to 44 percent.

After taping ``Meet the Press'' in Waterloo, Iowa, McCain was scheduled to hold a rally in Cedar Falls. Then he will fly to central Ohio for rallies in Zanesville and Lancaster.

Obama is scheduled to spend the day campaigning in Colorado, a battleground state where polls show him ahead.

Karl Rove, President George W. Bush's former senior political adviser, said it won't be easy for McCain to get the 270 electoral votes needed for victory.

`Very Steep Hill'

``In order for McCain to win, he has a very steep hill to climb,'' Rove said on ``Fox News Sunday.''

Rove said McCain, an Arizona senator, can ``turn it around'' by stressing his differences with Obama on taxes and the Illinois senator's relative lack of experience.

McCain also is outlining his differences with unpopular Republican President Bush.

``I've been repeating for the last eight years that the spending was out of control,'' McCain said. ``I was the harshest critic of the failed strategy in Iraq.''

Still, McCain said he has found common ground with Bush, 62, on other issues, such as the need for the $700 billion financial rescue plan.

For McCain to succeed Bush, he will need to win traditionally Republican states such as Virginia, said Tim Kaine, the state's governor.

``I do not see how Senator McCain could be president without Virginia,'' Democrat Kaine, who supports Obama, said on ``Fox News Sunday.'' A Mason-Dixon Polling & Research Inc. poll shows Obama with a 2 percentage-point lead in the state.

He's campaigning in Iowa where his opponent has a 15 point lead on him with barely a week left in the campaign while Virginia, a state he arguably cannot win without, hangs in the balance with his opponent only having a very small lead there? WTF? Is he insane?

jag

 

[Marx]

He's campaigning in Iowa where his opponent has a 15 point lead on him with barely a week left in the campaign while Virginia, a state he arguably cannot win without, hangs in the balance with his opponent only having a very small lead there? WTF? Is he insane?

jag

He's down by a similar margin in Pennsylvania. (Let's not forget that he PULLED OUT OF MICHIGAN for less.) I don't understand his logic. More and more I'm convinced he has none.

 

[Fading]

He's campaigning in Iowa where his opponent has a 15 point lead on him with barely a week left in the campaign while Virginia, a state he arguably cannot win without, hangs in the balance with his opponent only having a very small lead there? WTF? Is he insane?

jag

What also confuses me is that he said he's been the harshest critic of Iraq....I could be wrong but didn't someone say it was very easy, and we were greeted as liberator's? Oh yeah, McCain did -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nY2EP6fj1Js&feature=related

So how is he the harshest critic of the Iraq war again when he was echoing Dick Cheney, and praising it from the outset? (Until it became an unpopular war and complications arose)

 

[The Senator]

He's campaigning in Iowa where his opponent has a 15 point lead on him with barely a week left in the campaign while Virginia, a state he arguably cannot win without, hangs in the balance with his opponent only having a very small lead there? WTF? Is he insane?

jag

I have to ask the same question myself. Iowa was a lost cause MONTHS ago and it isn't going to switch to McCain. The state so strongly favors Obama that their two Republican Congressmen are worried about losing their re-election bids this year.

I can see McCain campaigning in Pennsylvania, but he won't win, regardless of what Rendell has been saying. No candidate who has had above a 6-point lead in the state two weeks before the election has lost it.

McCain needs to be in Colorado, Virginia, North Carolina, Ohio, and Florida. But strangely, he isn't.

 

[jaguarr]

What also confuses me is that he said he's been the harshest critic of Iraq....I could be wrong but didn't someone say it was very easy, and we were greeted as liberator's? Oh yeah, McCain did -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nY2EP6fj1Js&feature=related

So how is he the harshest critic of the Iraq war again when he was echoing Dick Cheney, and praising it from the outset? (Until it became an unpopular war and complications arose)

He was FOR the bridge....er...I mean....war, before he was against the war!

jag

 

[OtherwiseKnownAs]

McCain dismisses sour poll numbers
http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20081026/McCain/

 

[Superman4ever]

Well, McCain finally got an endorsement from somebody.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081022/ap_on_el_pr/al_qaida_us_election_2

LMFAO!

I know how to protect Ammereca cause I know how to do it!

 

[jaguarr]

Yeah, the whole "I'm down by double-digits in pretty much every poll on the planet except for one or two (and I'm not even winning in those, either), so don't worry....I'm going to win!" vibe coming out of McCain is eyebrow-raising to say the least. Either he's just trying to keep the spirits of his base up or he's completely insane. Or both.

jag

 

[Prison Mike]

I don't get his "we got them right where we want them" attitude. So he intended to be down in every poll out there?

 

[Matt]

Yeah, the whole "I'm down by double-digits in pretty much every poll on the planet except for one or two (and I'm not even winning in those, either), so don't worry....I'm going to win!" vibe coming out of McCain is eyebrow-raising to say the least. Either he's just trying to keep the spirits of his base up or he's completely insane. Or both.

jag

I don't get his "we got them right where we want them" attitude. So he intended to be down in every poll out there?

What would you have him do? Say it is over and go "All hail King Obama!"? I'm sure McCain is very aware that he is most likely not going to win at this point, but why on Earth would he come out and say that?

 

[Addendum]

He's hired Tesla to build a machine for him that will grant him victory

 

[jaguarr]

What would you have him do? Say it is over and go "All hail King Obama!"? I'm sure McCain is very aware that he is most likely not going to win at this point, but why on Earth would he come out and say that?

There's a difference between saying "We're down but not out!" and campaigning in the states you've still got a shot at in the hopes of turning it around and saying "Don't worry, I'm still going to win!" when the polls absolutely suggest otherwise and you're off campaigning in states you have no damn shot at winning instead of focusing on the states you could still pull your way.

jag

 

[Marx]

There's a difference between saying "We're down but not out!" and campaigning in the states you've still got a shot at in the hopes of turning it around and saying "Don't worry, I'm still going to win!" when the polls absolutely suggest otherwise and you're off campaigning in states you have no damn shot at winning instead of focusing on the states you could still pull your way.

jag

I agree, Jag. McCain needs to focus on the states that he can't afford to lose. Instead, he seems far too busy trying campaigning where he shouldn't be. Then again, I've given up trying to understand McCain campaign logic.

 

[jaguarr]

I agree, Jag. McCain needs to focus on the states that he can't afford to lose. Instead, he seems far too busy trying campaigning where he shouldn't be. Then again, I've given up trying to understand McCain campaign logic.

Yes. And the bravado of "I am going to win!!!!!" that accompanies his campaign strategy is confounding. It's like he's TRYING to lose or something, I swear.

jag

 

[Frodo]

Well , McCain is in terrible circumstances. An unpopular President, Bad Economy, sideways wars, Bin Laden on the loose, a country in debt etc. People are so angry and someone has to answer for this stuff .

Unfortunately , McCain is going to pay for the sins of the past 8 years.

I also think it pisses people off when they are worried about the economy and all McCain/Palin have to offer is Bill Ayers, Socialism and Joe the Plumber.

 

[Prison Mike]

I want to be Joe the Plumber for Halloween.

 

[Oddzball]

I read about this a while back. But didn't Obama end up endorsed by a radical group of some kind? Possibly the PLO?

I'm not entirely sure either way... but at least this means McCain can't attack Obama if he was endorsed by an international terrorist organization...

Not quite, ONE person, with Hamas connections said something about Oback being elected might be good for the mideast situation. The attack dawgs of the right did their best to make it Hamas officially endorsing Obama.

This is Al Queda's positon on the election.

 

[Fading]

I don't get his "we got them right where we want them" attitude. So he intended to be down in every poll out there?

I've seen this episode. McCain says he has Obama where he wants him, then while Palin's confused, McCain sneaks into her room and rumages thru her underwear, puts a pair on his head and tells Obama the plan worked, and they both run out of the white house giggling.



I agree with jag. Matt's right that McCain can't admit defeat, because it still is remotely possible he could win (Obama supporters get complacent and stay home, republicans vote in droves), and a defeatest attitude could cost him votes. However claiming he has Obama where he wants him?

He should play the underdog IMO, let his base know he's down, but not out. Say he can still win if they get their friends, neighbors, ect, to get out and vote for him. His recent campaign tactics have driven away independent voters, and some republicans, his base is what he should focus his attention.

 

[Marx]

Well , McCain is in terrible circumstances. An unpopular President, Bad Economy, sideways wars, Bin Laden on the loose, a country in debt etc. People are so angry and someone has to answer for this stuff .

Unfortunately , McCain is going to pay for the sins of the past 8 years.

I also think it pisses people off when they are worried about the economy and all McCain/Palin have to offer is Bill Ayers, Socialism and Joe the Plumber.

McCain-Palin have spent far too much time on non-issues and attacks and not enough time on where they stand on issues and how they would lead the country.

 

[Oddzball]

I've seen this episode. McCain says he has Obama where he wants him, then while Palin's confused, McCain sneaks into her room and rumages thru her underwear, puts a pair on his head and tells Obama the plan worked, and they both run out of the white house giggling.



I agree with jag. Matt's right that McCain can't admit defeat, because it still is remotely possible he could win (Obama supporters get complacent and stay home, republicans vote in droves), and a defeatest attitude could cost him votes. However claiming he has Obama where he wants him?

He should play the underdog IMO, let his base know he's down, but not out. Say he can still win if they get their friends, neighbors, ect, to get out and vote for him. His recent campaign tactics have driven away independent voters, and some republicans, his base is what he should focus his attention.

Actually, saying he has them where he wants them when he admits being down IS playing the underdog. The *****ure overconfident underdog.

 

[Marx]

I want to be Joe the Plumber for Halloween.

They need to drop this 'Joe the Plumber' crap. I doubt they will though, considering the 'I'm Joe the Plumber' ad.

 

[Fading]

They need to drop this 'Joe the Plumber' crap. I doubt they will though, considering the 'I'm Joe the Plumber' ad.

Psshh...didn't you hear McCain? Obama made Joe an issue, Obama should start talking about Joe and then stop talking about him since it's all Obama fault that McCain mentioned him 20 some odd times at the debate.

Ugh...I'm getting tired of even trying to make light of some of these things lol. Even typing J the P's name out feels so used and drawn out.

 

[The Senator]

That "Joe the Plumber" ad has gotten on my nerves. I've seen it twice in the past week.

Woman: "I'm Joe the Plumber!"

No... you're not. You're Nancy the Idiot Extra hired by John McCain to pretend to be an equally idiotic extra who has stolen the spotlight in this election and who NO ONE gives a DAMN about outside of the Republican base.

 

[Matt]

I haven't seen this ad, sounds funny. Got a link?