That actually sounds pretty cool.
It is. The book is really about Viv, but Fleming makes her very real. He actually writes women very well. The movies don't do his female characters justice. Ever. Well, except "Casino Royale." Vesper was played perfectly.
Yeah, out of no where he got all fussy about it. It was time for a new one anyway though.
Here's my take on it. As a 30 year old man I tend to suffer attacks of fogeyism as well. I think it happens like this. An adult enjoys a good innuendo as much as anyone else. But adults, as our friend Angie pointed out last night, tend to know where to draw a line. And younger people do not always do that. Younger people - as C. Lee said earlier - often mistake being dirty for being grown-up, and that is not, strictly speaking, the case. Some consideration should be shown towards women's feelings, and towards the potential eyes of children in this place.
With that said, though, we have a right to think what we think and to make certain implications so long as we do not cross the line of what is laid out in the rules. Explicit sexual imagery or descriptions are obviously out of the question. But I honestly don't see any problem with "cunning linguist." At all.
My suspicion is that the recent behavior (especially towards the end of the OG Lounge) was in such quantity and brazen nature that C. Lee simply could not ignore it any longer. It was getting creepy in that way that community-type threads often can, and I suspect our esteemed global mod was simply creeped out by it - as, I can't lie, I was in certain instances.
I think the problem now is figuring out where the lines are drawn. We have obviously entered into an area of the rule book that is not specific, and as a mod C. Lee is bound to enforce the rules but is given some levity where interpreting said rules is concerned. It would be a lie to say that moods and such do not affect a mod's judgment in those circumstances. Having modded TF.N some time back, I know damned well that they do, and I am generally sympathetic toward mods as a result.
But I also will politely call them on it if I think they're being unreasonable.
So again, my belief here is that KOLLUS and certain others pushed C. Lee in the OG Lounge, and pushed him too far, and what it's done is made him revise his position on certain behavior (such as innuendo) where it could be considered okay under normal circumstances, he now feels that if he gives an inch it will turn into a high-school boy's locker room in here again. And as Yoda would observe, need that we do not.
Which tells me that if we want things to get normal again we need to show Mr. Lee some respect and maturity. I'm pretty sure that's all he wants to see.
Only tacos I can get around here are Taco Bell. Which is bad no matter what you take the word taco to mean...
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