The New Ghostbusters - Part 6

[flickchick85]

I think the YT dislikes are a combo of the MRA agenda AND fans who genuinely think it looks bad. But there's no doubt in my mind that the agenda is notably inflating those numbers.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

There are plenty of people calling the film out for just plain looking bad, I'm not really sure what you're trying to prove to be honest.

I personally thought the trailer was bad. As a big fan of the original I wasn't a big fan of this to begin with, but after Spy I was more open to it. But there has been horrible blacklash for this film from the start. And while we got a lot of excuses for why that is, there has been a huge sexist reaction to this film.

Have you ever read through a YT comment section? This isn't the bastion of the good and noble. Most don't even watch the videos they trash.

 

[JtheDreamer]

I think the YT dislikes are a combo of the MRA agenda AND fans who genuinely think it looks bad. But there's no doubt in my mind that the agenda is notably inflating those numbers.

No proof of that at all.

 

[jmc]

I personally thought the trailer was bad. As a big fan of the original I wasn't a big fan of this to begin with, but after Spy I was more open to it. But there has been horrible blacklash for this film from the start. And while we got a lot of excuses for why that is, there has been a huge sexist reaction to this film.

Have you ever read through a YT comment section? This isn't the bastion of the good and noble. Most don't even watch the videos they trash.

I read YT comments all the time, and whilst you are correct there is a sexist element from some quarters there are many, like myself, who have been against this idea simply because it's one remake too many. Ghostbusters means a lot to a lot of people who have viewed this idea as nothing more than a cheap way to bring back a brand that is synonymous with a particular group of actors. The fact the trailer isn't even good really doesn't help change anyone's mind in that regard.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

No proof of that at all.

Considering the track record of some on this very thread, I am going to go with there being more then enough proof.

 

[flickchick85]

No proof of that at all.

And yet my lack of doubt remains unchanged.

 

[JtheDreamer]

And yet my lack of doubt remains unchanged.

Wouldn't expect otherwise. LOL

You're as steadfast in your own opinion as everyone else is about theirs.

 

[flickchick85]

Wouldn't expect otherwise. LOL

You're as steadfast in your own opinion as everyone else is.

Indeed. And as there's no "proof" either way, that's all we have.

 

[TheVileOne]

I think the YT dislikes are a combo of the MRA agenda AND fans who genuinely think it looks bad. But there's no doubt in my mind that the agenda is notably inflating those numbers.

I disagree. I think you are giving that group way too much credit. Just like a lot of idiots on the internet, they are loud but not numerous. This trailer is pretty much getting universally hated.

Keep in mind, the Collider Movie Talk panel pretty much universally DERIDED the trailer, and I can't think of too many instances where they've done that for a big movie like this. Some of them were actually endorsing 2015 Fantastic Four after that film's trailers dropped.

 

[JangoNate]

I'm on a few boards right now reading various comments and I continue to see that the people loathing the trailer are the same who judged the movie as terrible since the beginning. I've seen a lot of folks on the fence say they are now optimistic and even excited. Though I don't think the trailer is perfect and it has its flaws, I really think the negative comments and dislikes were ready to go before the trailer was seen. Haters just ready to hate. Are there genuine dislikes mixed in? Oh yeah! But the blind hate for this has been strong for some time.

The moment I step out from my nerd boards the reception comes across as much more optimistic. I firmly believe in the man babies and think the general audience, whom this targets, will really like this if the film proves to be good. Something I can not deduce from a 2 minute trailer.

 

[The Guard]

I don't think YouTube comments really prove much of anything about this film's eventual success or failure, except that there are a bunch of people who didn't care for this trailer, or said they didn't. If my math is right, at this time (100k dislikes) that equates to about 2% of the people who watched the trailer who hit dislike. 2%.

This trailer was essentially designed to do a few things:

-Show there is a new Ghostbusters movie coming out, and that it has elements of the old concept.

-Show the women who are playing the main characters, several of whom are popular comedic actresses with certain styles that audiences have responded to favorably, which, interestingly enough, is what is focused on in this trailer. I don't think that what we saw is all we'll see from the characters by a longshot, but it will likely sell to general audiences who like these women.

-Spotlight the special effects, different kinds of ghosts and equipment which, even here, has largely gotten a positive reaction.

It's not designed to show you the best of the comedy (Feig's trailers don't tend to do that anyway, at least not in my memory), the most interesting parts of the movie's story or any of the nuances of the characters. It's almost literally just designed to say "There's a new Ghostbusters movie coming, here's who is in it, and here is the different tone we're using". It's very basic and broad, and I think that's intentional.

 

[JangoNate]

Ok, I'm going to open the comments. No one look at the comments!

I looked at the comments, Ray!

So, yeah, I decided to read the comments on the YouTube trailer. Phew! Umm...yeah complete garbage. They were just plain offensive and if these are the ones hitting the dislike button...I don't know how much credit I can give them. My favorite: "I'm not sexist. I just prefer they made them all men, instead."

The trailer hasn't caused me to lose much faith in the movie, but I'm losing a little faith in humanity.

 

[Snow Queen]

I thought it was okay, I guess. Nothing noteworthy. Jones seems annoying though, and some of the exposition was cringeworthy. McKinnon looked enjoyable and Wigg left no impression on me whatsoever. I'm iffy on the whole look of it. It looks so...shiny.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I thought it was okay, I guess. Nothing noteworthy. Jones seems annoying though, and some of the exposition was cringeworthy. McKinnon looked enjoyable and Wigg left no impression on me whatsoever. I'm iffy on the whole look of it. It looks so...shiny.

Have you seen the original Snow, and how do you feel about it?

 

[Snow Queen]

Have you seen the original Snow, and how do you feel about it?

I like it. It's not one of my favourite films or anything, but it's definitely one I enjoy and rewatch every so often.

 

[phillyboy]

Part of me would like to see this movie bomb HARD! If only as a sacrificial lamb. The lack of originality in Hollywood & its reliance on known properties/ "brands" is seriously depressing. It's hard to imagine a time when all we got were original movies (& a few sequels). Sadly, it would probably take more than a dozen flopped GB level remakes for Hollywood to get the message.

As for the trailer. I'm neither here nor there. McKinnon looks like the only interesting character- keen to see more of her.

 

[EssayM]

Maybe it's because I didn't grow up with the original, but I honestly didn't think this trailer looked that bad. Trailer editing's a little slow maybe, but there were some funny moments, the visuals look cool, and the four leads seem to be having fun with their characters (though I hope they do more to distinguish McCarthy and Wiig personality-wise). I doubt it will be a Fury Road-quality reboot, but I'm not getting a Fant4stic or Jem and the Holograms vibe either. Sony's had a rough last couple of years, but I'm hoping they're together enough to make the most of the talent involved here.

 

[EssayM]

Part of me would like to see this movie bomb HARD! If only as a sacrificial lamb. The lack of originality in Hollywood & its reliance on known properties/ "brands" is seriously depressing. It's hard to imagine a time when all we got were original movies (& a few sequels). Sadly, it would probably take more than a dozen flopped GB level remakes for Hollywood to get the message.

As for the trailer. I'm neither here nor there. McKinnon looks like the only interesting character- keen to see more of her.

If Fant4stic, Pan, and Jem all bombing within months of each other didn't get their attention, I doubt one more would.

 

[Travesty]

I think the YT dislikes are a combo of the MRA agenda AND fans who genuinely think it looks bad. But there's no doubt in my mind that the agenda is notably inflating those numbers.

You mean the same group that boycotted Mad Max and Star Wars? I don't remember that many dislikes or hate towards those trailers.

I think some of you are just making excuses. Ghostbusters is an extremely popular franchise, and if you deliver a disappointing trailer, then fans will let you know. I don't think there's some crazy conspiracy at play here, I think it is what it is: a bad trailer to a popular franchise. If there was this so called "inflation", we would have seen/felt it with those movies I mentioned.

 

[jmc]

If Fant4stic, Pan, and Jem all bombing within months of each other didn't get their attention, I doubt one more would.

Ghostbusters is a different beast though, it's loved far more than any other those other franchises. I hate to say it but I'm somewhat in agreement with phillyboy, the lack of originality in Hollywood is a big issue and maybe a big sacrifice is needed in order to start to change things. No-one would have had a problem if this were an original all-female ghost hunters movie, but because it's leaching off the back of one of the most iconic movie brands it's automatically pissing people off.

 

[Sithborg]

Seems ironic to post that on a forum that pretty much worships the building of comic book cinematic universes.

 

[flickchick85]

You mean the same group that boycotted Mad Max and Star Wars? I don't remember that many dislikes or hate towards those trailers.

I think some of you are just making excuses. Ghostbusters is an extremely popular franchise, and if you deliver a disappointing trailer, then fans will let you know. I don't think there's some crazy conspiracy at play here, I think it is what it is: a bad trailer to a popular franchise. If there was this so called "inflation", we would have seen/felt it with those movies I mentioned.

I very clearly said it was BOTH things contributing to the number of dislikes, not JUST the MRA agenda. As for the trailers of the other two, Mad Max's MRA backlash didn't start until the movie hit and people realized the feminist content and Furiosa's prominence, and Star Wars has the biggest fanbase/hype on the planet, so it's hardly comparable. Those two also happened to have near undeniably awesome trailers, too, which this is certainly not.

 

[Travesty]

I very clearly said it was BOTH things contributing to the number of dislikes, not JUST the MRA agenda.

Yeah, you also said, "but there's no doubt in my mind that the agenda is noticeably inflating it".

I don't think it is. I just think its a bad trailer.

Those two also happened to have near undeniably awesome trailers, too, which this is certainly not.

Yes, I know, which was my point. Those movies didn't have bad trailers, hence, a good reaction(even though they were boycotted by the MRA). This had a bad trailer, so it is getting a bad reaction. Again, no crazy conspiracy.

 

[flickchick85]

Yeah, you also said, "but there's no doubt in my mind that the agenda is noticeably inflating it".

I don't think it is. I just think its a bad trailer.

And that's your prerogative. You seem to think I'm some kind of cheerleader for this trailer "making excuses," and I'm not. I've stated here and elsewhere that I had a mixed reaction to it. I'm just making an observation that the MRA hate wagon that's been directed at this film since it was announced is probably having an affect on the proportion of YT dislikes, which is speculation you're welcome to disagree with as well. I'm not about to argue it in circles because there's no proof either way, so such a debate would be fruitless.

 

[Leenie]

The movie looks bad. I like Kirsten Wiig, I like Melissa McCarthy, and I loved Paul Feig's last film (Spy) ... But this looks bad.

I will be skipping "Tumblrbusters" in theaters, thanks. Call me when the re-release of Ecto-Cooler is out.

I will say this, though: At least Seth Rogen and his art school pothead buddies are nowhere to be seen in this. While the movie looks bad, it could totally be worse.