The New Ghostbusters - Part 6

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Im watching the Screen Junkies reaction and one of the point theyre trying to raise is that it's suppose to appeal to teenagers who havent seen the original.

1) Idk i'd put Ghostbusters pretty far up there with Star Wars, Jurassic Park, etc. in terms of movies that "everybody" has seen
2) Even if someone hasn't seen it I dont see that they did anything to make people want to see it.
 
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And this is a problem Hollywood is facing. They are relying too much on people our age to generate hype for these 80's/90's movie remakes/reboots/sequels. We need new properties to be created. We don't need a new generation of ghostbusters, we need to give a new generations its own films with its own characters. There's no reason an original all-female ghost hunter movie couldn't be done today, the problem is trying to promote something new is difficult and requires additional work. But, as Deadpool has shown, clever marketing can produce results for obscure properties. All that is lacking on Hollywood's part is the will to actually market new ideas.

As hard as it is to make original movies, it's even harder to make female driven original movies, especially something more high concept. So them using an established brand to do it isn't really a bad idea fundamentally, but from the looks of the trailer it's just confusing.

An all female Ghostbusters with new characters on its own is a great idea. It's just the execution of where they fit into the past films is just unclear right now. If they don't get that sorted out, that will confuse audiences too and that will effect the movie's performance.
 
I am kind of looking forward to it now, but I don't blame anyone for not being convinced by that trailer.
 
As hard as it is to make original movies, it's even harder to make female driven original movies, especially something more high concept. So them using an established brand to do it isn't really a bad idea fundamentally, but from the looks of the trailer it's just confusing.

An all female Ghostbusters with new characters on its own is a great idea. It's just the execution of where they fit into the past films is just unclear right now. If they don't get that sorted out, that will confuse audiences too and that will effect the movie.

I think we on SHH, and maybe the net in general, kinda overestimate how much the GA cares about continuity and is it a reboot or not. I dont think whether this is connected the original or not/whether theyre clear about it will affect the movie's success that much
 
So your screening was a test screening? Did they ask questions afterward? I've heard about movies doing lots of test screenings and wildly changing aspects of the film because of the response. So I guess it's possible for them to beef up certain elements that you and the other screeners may have.
They asked a ton of questions. I'm sure there will be changes. Some of the story details changing to match the rumors would require major rewrites and very expensive reshoots. I don't believe they would have enough time to do a major overhaul of the entire plot.
 
Im watching the Screen Junkies reaction and one of the point theyre trying to raise is that it's suppose to appeal to teenagers who havent seen the original.

1) Idk i'd put Ghostbusters pretty far up there with Star Wars, Jurassic Park, etc. in terms of movies that "everybody" has seen
2) Even if someone hasn't seen it I dont see that they did anything to make people want to see it.

I question this notion that younger people haven't seen the original. I'm friends with a girl who's 21 and she's seen most of the same films I grew up with. I really think this idea that people aren't aware of ghostbusters is completely overblown. Many parents would have introduced this film to their kids at some point.
 
I question this notion that younger people haven't seen the original. I'm friends with a girl who's 21 and she's seen most of the same films I grew up with. I really think this idea that people aren't aware of ghostbusters is completely overblown. Many parents would have introduced this film to their kids at some point.

Or they would watch it on TV during 15-20 years span of their fricking life. Ghostbusters are pretty iconic.
 
I question this notion that younger people haven't seen the original. I'm friends with a girl who's 21 and she's seen most of the same films I grew up with. I really think this idea that people aren't aware of ghostbusters is completely overblown. Many parents would have introduced this film to their kids at some point.

yeah if/when I have a kid GB will be the first movie I show them
 
Completely unrelated...but holy crap! I've been a member of this forum for 15 years. That's insane. That means 15 years ago I was eagerly awaiting Siper-Man and debating the first teaser that had the Twin Towers. We literally argued about wether or not Spider-Man's webbing could stop a helicopter, and if the force of it stopping mid air would rip the tail off or not. I was in college and we were citing physics books, and Marvel Encyclopedias...it was nuts.
 
I question this notion that younger people haven't seen the original. I'm friends with a girl who's 21 and she's well seen most of the same films I grew up with. I really think this idea that people aren't aware of ghostbusters is completely overblown. Many parents would have introduced this film to their kids at some point.

I agree. Im not that much older than your friend and I've seen GB plenty. And even if you want to say I'm a nerd, which I am, and of course Ive seen it still so many people dress up, watch, etc GB every year at Halloween and I'm talking people my age and younger

Or they would watch it on TV during 15-20 years span of their fricking life. Ghostbusters are pretty iconic.

I'd argue that Ghostbusters is in the top 10 most iconic film/film franchises. Top 5 if you take out things based on comic, books, etc.
 
yeah if/when I have a kid GB will be the first movie I show them

BoredGuy to four year old son: "Are you crying? It's only a movie, you wimp:whatever:"

My brother almost jumped through the ceiling during the library ghost scene. Not because of the ghost, but my father yelled "boo" some seconds before the scary part.
 
I think there are a lot of people annoyed with the false marketing making it sound like a sequel and while it didn't bother me when I see the trailer I do agree it would have been better as a sequel of sorts, expand the universe not reboot it and take everything that came with it with you as if it is a sequel
 
I like the 30 Years Ago thing...sort of meta. It's not so much false marketing as it is ambiguous marketing, which I think is kind of clever. Most people aren't going to go see this based on whether or not its connected to the original films anyway. Really like the piano strains of the old theme.

I don't hate this. I thought it was fairly entertaining as trailers go. It's not a great trailer, to be sure. It's not an awful one either, and there's enough in it that's unique to make it more than just mediocre.

Tonally, this looks to be a combination of Ghostbusters and The Real Ghostbusters. At this point in the concept's life cycle, that was probably the way to go, and the way many of the comics have gone as well, to fantastic effect.

I don't think this is going to be devoid of story anymore than the original film was. This is clearly an action-centric trailer. And visually this looks pretty cool, in a sort of throwback effects kind of way. I like the scope of the ghosts so far. Always nice to see Slimer.

I love the technology in this. Is that a version of Louis Tully's brainwave "helmet" that McCarthy has on in one shot? McKinnon's character looks like she will be a lot of fun.

Humorwise, there were some funny bits. Ghostbusters was never laugh out loud funny to me, but there are some good chuckles here.

People are complaining about the content of the trailer. Watch the original Ghostbusters trailer. Short of introducing Ecto 1 and the various ethreal/ghostbusting concepts, which will NEVER be "new" again, and therefore will likely never have that type of "Wow, that's new" impact, there's a lot of the same approach, albeit a tonal difference.

-There are ghosts.
-Bill Murray loudly asks "Has anyone seen a ghost?"
-The Ghostbusters are shown screwing up a few times.
-Bill Murray yells about dogs and cats living together.
-There's a lot of screaming.
-There's a little bit about the story, but not much.

All things considered, the original trailer, with the exception of the end of the movie, basically shows the Ghostbusters being goofballs, shows fairly little about their personalities, shows some action beats, and sells Sigourney Weaver with sex. This trailer does much the same thing. Other than tone of the humor and the more heightened elements, there's not a huge difference in presentation here.

The whole "This doesn't look like the Ghostbusters I know" that people keep saying as if it's a new and interesting complaint...the film's creators have been telling you that from Day One. This isn't the Ghostbusters as they were conceived in the 80's, that's...fairly obvious. This is 2016, and it is the Ghostbusters viewed through that cultural lens.

I'm not even going to get into the "I don't find these ladies funny" complaint. Fair enough. You think no one was tired of Murray and Akroyd's schtick in the early 80's? That didn't stop general audiences from eating up that movie then and I doubt it will stop this one now. These are some incredibly popular comedic actresses.

Finally, I know we're fanboys, but could some of you stop pretending you know exactly what does nor doesn't happen in a film and whether it does or doesn't connect to the other movies or ever will based on a single trailer? You can't possibly know exactly what does and doesn't happen based on a trailer and some rumors, unless you've seen the film and watched the franchise unfold, which I suspect most of you haven't. Even if this film doesn't connect, there are ways to make it connect later on if the studio chooses to do so.
 
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BoredGuy to four year old son: "Are you crying? It's only a movie, you wimp:whatever:"

My brother almost jumped through the ceiling during the library ghost scene. Not because of the ghost, but my father yelled "boo" some seconds before the scary part.

that will totally be me
I had every word of dialogue of GB memorized by time I was 3
If my kid can't handle it at 4?? pssh "you are not my son!"

I will also be doing what you're father did, lol
 
I said it last year and im saying it now the best thing about this movie will be the SFX and the
CGI
 
BoredGuy to four year old son: "Are you crying? It's only a movie, you wimp:whatever:"

If my kid can't handle it at 4?? pssh "you are not my son!"


"But dad, I was scared because that ghost in the movie looks just like the one in our basement."

"Oh for god's sake. First of all, there's no ghost down there ... it's a wraith, completely different kind of creature. Secondly, just remember what I told you: when you go down there alone to fetch my beers from the icebox, just avoid meeting its gaze and you'll be fine. Now chop chop, it's 11 am and I'm thirsty."
 
"But dad, I was scared because that ghost in the movie looks just like the one in our basement."

"Oh for god's sake. First of all, there's no ghost down there ... it's a wraith, completely different kind of creature. Secondly, just remember what I told you: when you go down there alone to fetch my beers from the icebox, just avoid meeting its gaze and you'll be fine. Now chop chop, it's 11 am and I'm thirsty."

:lmao:
I'm getting so many good ideas!
 
"But dad, I was scared because that ghost in the movie looks just like the one in our basement."

"Oh for god's sake. First of all, there's no ghost down there ... it's a wraith, completely different kind of creature. Secondly, just remember what I told you: when you go down there alone to fetch my beers from the icebox, just avoid meeting its gaze and you'll be fine. Now chop chop, it's 11 am and I'm thirsty."

:funny:

that should have been the trailer.
 
They asked a ton of questions. I'm sure there will be changes. Some of the story details changing to match the rumors would require major rewrites and very expensive reshoots. I don't believe they would have enough time to do a major overhaul of the entire plot.

Was it actually funny in your opinion? Because the trailer wasn't to me.
 
Trailer looks great. Only one who really just doesn't work for me is Jones. I just find her very flat and lacking charisma. They probably could have recast her with someone like Regina King or Regina Hall.

Absolutely LOVE the ghost effects. Very creepy but enticing. :up:

And I feel very vindicated in knowing that it is loosely connected to the original films, within the first seconds of the trailer.
 
I think we on SHH, and maybe the net in general, kinda overestimate how much the GA cares about continuity and is it a reboot or not. I dont think whether this is connected the original or not/whether theyre clear about it will affect the movie's success that much

I guess it just depends on the film too and how clear it is. But if a trailer is supposed to represent the film, it's still unclear. Audiences like to be clear at least. But then again, being if they don't care about continuity, the trailer still will make people ask, "Is this a sequel or a reboot?" Depending on reviews I guess people will decide whether they will care or not.

But I think it's a loose sequel. Could be the original cast cameos are misinformation and the trailers are acknowledging something that we don't know yet and the reason Feig has been mum on it is they want it to be a surprise. Yet I wonder how they'd speak for Ramis's absence if this was the case at all?
 
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