The New Ghostbusters - Part 8

[AndrewGilkison]

The amount of hate for this movie is absolutely ridiculous and blatantly sexist.

Yeah, Hollywood does too many reboots, remakes, and reimaginings, yet for some reason (and we all know the real reason) THIS is the one that causes everyone to go absolutely insane and go on organized "dislike" movements. Most disliked trailer of all time? Give me a break.

The trailers for Spy didn't impress me either but it turned out to be hilarious and totally different from what I expected. They focused on low brow slapstick humor in the marketing but it was actually quite clever with a lot of heart. Comedies don't always play well in trailers and no matter what people say, there's a lot of talent in this so I'm going to give it the fair chance it deserves. If I don't like it, so be it, but I hardly doubt it'll be among my most hated films ever.

And by the way, the original Ghostbusters was already "ruined" with Ghostbusters II and the animated series. Oh wait, no it wasn't. You can still enjoy the original just as much no matter what comes out after it.

I think the fact that it stars women in leading roles is the only real redeeming quality this movie has. Beyond that, the movie itself looks uninspired and bland and lazy at best and awful and annoying at worst.

Are most of the youtube dislikes from sexist men? Most likely. But how does that make that trailer any better? It was still an awful trailer that didn't do a very good job of selling the movie.

It seems the people most passionate about defending the movie are not defending the movie so much as they are defending the female leads. If it didn't have female leads they wouldn't be defending it from the backlash its getting.

 

[Doctor Jones]

You got sexists complaining but there's also the fact it's a remake and the trailers for the most part have sucked. You combine these elements that creates a mess and the intent of people gets lost. We should be able to distinguish, but it's awfully suspicious how this movie seems to have such venom attached to it more so than other 80's remakes. Is it all misogyny? Of course not. But I do think there's a lot more than others think. We live in male dominated societies where we're conditioned to think as such. Anything that goes out of balance there, there's an innate sense of being threatened on the male's part.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

The amount of hate for this movie is absolutely ridiculous and blatantly sexist.

Girls hate it too, are they sexist too?

Are most of the youtube dislikes from sexist men? Most likely. But how does that make that trailer any better? It was still an awful trailer that didn't do a very good job of selling the movie.

That's why saying 'MOST' dislikes is wrong, a significant number is likely to be sexist men, but the number of dislikes is HUGE

 

[jmc]

You got sexists complaining but there's also the fact it's a remake and the trailers for the most part have sucked. You combine these elements that creates a mess and the intent of people gets lost. We should be able to distinguish, but it's awfully suspicious how this movie seems to have such venom attached to it more so than other 80's remakes. Is it all misogyny? If course not. But I do think there's a lot more than others think. We're live in male dominated societies where we're conditioned to think as such. Anything that goes out of balance there, there's an innate sense of being threatened on the male's part.

A gross generalisation if ever there was.

 

[Guts]

It started as serious movie with hint of horror who dealt with paranormal activity. It set the tone. And for movie not to be that serious, it had humour between main characters, comedic elements and reliefs.

This on other hand looks like comedy, directed as comedy from beggining with sprinkles of original ghostbusters, but not as homage to originals but as parody of it.

Just like this movie, the original had SNL cast members in it and it did have a good deal of comedy.

 

[Marvel Knight]

I always wanted to see a franchise crash and burn like this.

But I wish it wasn't Ghostbusters.

It's sad to see one of the most anticipated revivals turn out like this.

 

[bluejake01]

A gross generalisation if ever there was.

Seems like a fair and balanced view of mainstream American culture actually. Of course it's generalized, but I do not see them saying that all criticism of the movie is sexist, or that all men are misogynistic.

 

[PelvicSorcery]

I have absolutely no problem with the concept of an all female Ghostbusters movie, I have a problem with it having unfunny actors in it, and a director who does extremely unfunny movies. The only thing that Feig has done that is watchable is "Freaks and Geeks" .

If you think the four actresses in this are unfunny or talentless, sorry but you're just ignorant or simply not the target audience.

Yes, Melissa McCarthy has made a lot of terrible movies since she obviously was cashing in on her rising fame, but she's been outstanding in many other comedic films.

Kristen Wiig is obviously a comedic tour de force and has even proven to be a great dramatic actress in several low budget indie dramas over the last few years.

Leslie and ESPECIALLY Kate are brilliant on SNL and will be around for years to come.

Paul Feig's involvement makes me even more hopeful that this will turn out better than the trailers. Bridesmaids and Spy are two of the best laugh out loud comedies in the last decade, and were much better than their trailers as well.

You can obviously dislike the movie without being sexist, but the magnitude of vitriol directed at this film is quite clearly driven by sexism and/or misplaced nostalgia anger, and then it snowballs from there with more and more people jumping on the hate bandwagon months before the film is even released. This hardly ever happens.

And don't give me that reverse sexism crap. Not a chance in HELL this film would be receiving this much aggressive hatred if there wasn't unwarranted disdain for the talent involved. Any sensible person would be able to admit that there's a misogynist element in the reaction to this unreleased film.

 

[Wheels]

I want this film to be good personally because I was behind the idea of a remake. I had zero interest in a passing of the torch film without Ramis, or without having Murray in a significant role. I was for remaking Ghostbusters or not touching it. Having said that, the trailers are pretty weak in my opinion. These women are funny in general, but I'm not into the trailers.

 

[Broseph44]

I want this film to be good personally because I was behind the idea of a remake. I had zero interest in a passing of the torch film without Ramis, or without having Murray in a significant role. I was for remaking Ghostbusters or not touching it. Having said that, the trailers are pretty weak in my opinion. These women are funny in general, but I'm not into the trailers.

You really think Leslie Jones is funny?

 

[Wheels]

You really think Leslie Jones is funny?

I think she is hit or miss but I have laughed at some of her SNL stuff.

 

[Broseph44]

I think she is hit or miss but I have laughed at some of her SNL stuff.

Here's a better question. How does she look so far in this to you? Hit or miss?

 

[Jason Kane]

You really think Leslie Jones is funny?

I sure as hell don't.

 

[Wheels]

Here's a better question. How does she look so far in this to you? Hit or miss?

Miss all the way.

 

[Broseph44]

I sure as hell don't.

Likewise haha

Miss all the way.

Agreed

 

[Iron_Stark]

You really think Leslie Jones is funny?

She's looking to be the worst part of this movie.

 

[Matt]

You know, I see so many people saying how this is a "feminist" movie and if you don't like it you are sexist. I gotta disagree. If you want to see a feminist movie, look no further than Neighbors 2, which I watched last night. Feminism is not sticking women into roles previously played by males and patting yourselves on the back for doing so. Neighbors 2 is a dissection of gender roles in college and society as a whole. It addresses sexism from all ends of the spectrum (against women, against men, even homophobia) and is not afraid to poke fun at our cultural norms, ignorance, etc related to it. THAT is how you use film/comedy to explore a feminist message. Trainwreck does the same. This movie has no indication of doing so.

 

[Nardz937]

https://www.facebook.com/DanAykroyd/?fref=nf

"As originator of the original: Saw test screening of new movie. Apart from brilliant, genuine performances from the cast both female and male, it has more laughs and more scares than the first 2 films plus Bill Murray is in it! As one of millions of man-fans and Ray Stantz, I'm paying to see that and bringing all my friends!"

 

[bluejake01]

You know, I see so many people saying how this is a "feminist" movie and if you don't like it you are sexist. I gotta disagree. If you want to see a feminist movie, look no further than Neighbors 2, which I watched last night. Feminism is not sticking women into roles previously played by males and patting yourselves on the back for doing so. Neighbors 2 is a dissection of gender roles in college and society as a whole. It addresses sexism from all ends of the spectrum (against women, against men, even homophobia) and is not afraid to poke fun at our cultural norms, ignorance, etc related to it. THAT is how you use film/comedy to explore a feminist message. Trainwreck does the same. This movie has no indication of doing so.

I've seen the film, and it is not a feminist film, not have I really seen claims that it is. What I have seen is an extreme level of misogyny directed at it before the first trailer even dropped. That doesn't invalidate the legitimate criticisms of people that have valid concerns. Still, it's pure pig headedness to deny that there has been an anti-feminist backlash to the female Ghostbusters.

 

[bluejake01]

https://www.facebook.com/DanAykroyd/?fref=nf

"As originator of the original: Saw test screening of new movie. Apart from brilliant, genuine performances from the cast both female and male, it has more laughs and more scares than the first 2 films plus Bill Murray is in it! As one of millions of man-fans and Ray Stantz, I'm paying to see that and bringing all my friends!"

I watched Ivan Reitman fall out laughing more than once at the movie. It's flawed, but it's funny and I think it's very respectful of the original.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

All remakes of classics are up against fan nostalgia. The main thing drawing so much ire is that none of it is fan wish fulfillment.

When fans recast or remained their favorite movies, they put themselves into the movie metaphorically. I don't think old school fans really cared about new ghost or new proton packs. They just wanted the band back together.

The part that irks me is that not Feig's fault that isn't happening but he and his crew are unfairly taking the blame for it.

 

[TheDreamMaster]

All remakes of classics are up against fan nostalgia. The main thing drawing so much ire is that none of it is fan wish fulfillment.

When fans recast or remained their favorite movies, they put themselves into the movie metaphorically. I don't think old school fans really cared about new ghost or new proton packs. They just wanted the band back together.

The part that irks me is that not Feig's fault that isn't happening but he and his crew are unfairly taking the blame for it.

It's definetely quite a bit on Amy Pascal, but had she not pushed for Feig, since at one point they were trying to push a third film, he wouldn't have made those "I don't like directing men" statements, and basically told us he never would've made the third film we hoped for anyway.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

It's definetely quite a bit on Amy Pascal, but had she not pushed for Feig, since at one point they were trying to push a third film, he wouldn't have made those "I don't like directing men" statements, and basically told us he never would've made the third film we hoped for anyway.

Uh no?

One of the GB didn't want to do it and one died. It was never going to be like it was.

And simply connecting it to the old films via daughters or trainees wouldn't have saved it either. Indy 4 was bad because it was a bad movie no matter how much of the old gang was back.
Same for Prometheus and it's Alien connection.

The Lost in Space movie wouldn't have been better if they were connected.

 

[TheDreamMaster]

Uh no?

One of the GB didn't want to do it and one died. It was never going to be like it was.

And simply connecting it to the old films via daughters or trainees wouldn't have saved it either. Indy 4 was bad because it was a bad movie no matter how much of the old gang was back.
Same for Prometheus and it's Alien connection.

The Lost in Space movie wouldn't have been better if they were connected.

Uh yes? I never said its turn out well, but the fact is Pascal decided on her own talks for this GB reboot, and Feig woukdnt come on until he got the control he wanted, and he didn't want a sequel, he wanted a women focused reboot.

given the right people, a connected reboot could've worked fine. It wouldn't have been the same, but it could've worked. Murray's been an a-hole for years when everyone else was on board. Ramis passing was awful, and a lot of fans like me still aren't completely over it. But a solid connected attempt could've been better than this.

 

[PelvicSorcery]

I've seen the film, and it is not a feminist film, not have I really seen claims that it is. What I have seen is an extreme level of misogyny directed at it before the first trailer even dropped. That doesn't invalidate the legitimate criticisms of people that have valid concerns. Still, it's pure pig headedness to deny that there has been an anti-feminist backlash to the female Ghostbusters.

Agreed. You even have Donald Trump speaking out against it to rally his troops.