the New Invaders and the Ultimates

[3dman27]

i though the british didn't like ninja for some reason why would they want union jack to dress like one?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Why would the British not like ninja? As far as I know, they never really interacted much, being halfway across the world from each other.

 

[3dman27]

something to do with ninja movies i think i don't recall at the moment

 

[Kitsune]

I'm waiting for Brubaker to do a mini series of the Invaders/All Winners Squad set in the 40s and making characters like The Whizzer badass.

He's named the Whizzer, and he wears an all yellow costume, their ain't no way on God's green Earth, that you can make him badass, it's like trying to get Michael Jackson street cred.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Outside of the Whizzer name, none of that's a problem. Most of the Invaders had awful costumes, but we just saw at the beginning of this thread that costumes can easily be revamped. Plus, speedsters are always cool.

 

[Artistsean]

I would like to try and revamp the Wizzar's costume, trying to keep it inline with New Invaders (or should it be along the lines of the Brubakers? Or should I try Ultimate versions of both Union Jack and Whizzer?).
Any suggestions?


I seriously think it would be a great ongoing series, to have the Invaders (new Invaders or old) in an ongoing title again.

 

[3dman27]

an ultimate whizzer? i wanna see that

 

[Harlekin]

He's named the Whizzer, and he wears an all yellow costume, their ain't no way on God's green Earth, that you can make him badass, it's like trying to get Michael Jackson street cred.

You obviously never saw the Spidey Animated Series. That made me fall in love with these guys (the original Invaders), the Whizzer included.

 

[Artistsean]

I am working on the Ultimate version of Whizzer right now.
I'll post it soon, I hope.

The problem with Ultimate versions of characters is you can Ultimate them right out of looking like a superhero.
Union Jack is a covert agent, why would he dress in a big colorful costume? Or the Whizzer was a weapon during WWII, so why would he wear bright yellow with a blue W? So I am trying not to end up with soldiers in black uniforms and lots of pockets and pouches all over their belts and pants.

 

[CaptainCanada]

You obviously never saw the Spidey Animated Series. That made me fall in love with these guys (the original Invaders), the Whizzer included.

"I have just one question for you: why did you call yourself 'The Whizzer'?"

I loved that story arc so much; the SHIELD vs. Electro battle is one of my all-time favourite animation fights.

Brubaker managed to make Bucky a badass, so I suppose he could do the same for the Whizzer.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

I'm waiting for Brubaker to do a mini series of the Invaders/All Winners Squad set in the 40s and making characters like The Whizzer badass.

You and me BOTH man.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I am working on the Ultimate version of Whizzer right now.
I'll post it soon, I hope.

The problem with Ultimate versions of characters is you can Ultimate them right out of looking like a superhero.
Union Jack is a covert agent, why would he dress in a big colorful costume? Or the Whizzer was a weapon during WWII, so why would he wear bright yellow with a blue W? So I am trying not to end up with soldiers in black uniforms and lots of pockets and pouches all over their belts and pants.

You have to take powers into account, too. A bunch of pockets and pouches wouldn't make sense for the Whizzer. He's a speedster--aerodynamics are paramount. In fact, the Whizzer's one of the few superheroes for whom tights would actually make lots of sense in real life. Take two parts Olympic sprinter, one part covert ops, add some goggles and a splash of color, and you're good to go.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

"I have just one question for you: why did you call yourself 'The Whizzer'?"

I loved that story arc so much; the SHIELD vs. Electro battle is one of my all-time favourite animation fights.

Same here. Watching Electro bring the Helicarrier down was jaw-dropping!

 

[Union Jack]

You have to take powers into account, too. A bunch of pockets and pouches wouldn't make sense for the Whizzer. He's a speedster--aerodynamics are paramount. In fact, the Whizzer's one of the few superheroes for whom tights would actually make lots of sense in real life. Take two parts Olympic sprinter, one part covert ops, add some goggles and a splash of color, and you're good to go.

kinda like taking spitfire's recent costume and paint it black.
that'd work.
the whizzer could still work in that sense.
the ww1 UJ costume is cool too...it looks kinda spy-ish too.

 

[Union Jack]

this is the WW1 one.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

He looks more like a pirate than a spy to me.

 

[The Question]

He looks more like a pirate than a spy to me.

Well, Hawkeye looks more like a pirate than a celebrity vigilante, but most folks don't complain.

 

[Kitsune]

You obviously never saw the Spidey Animated Series. That made me fall in love with these guys (the original Invaders), the Whizzer included.

They had the Fin, and Electro was the Red Skulls son.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, Hawkeye looks more like a pirate than a celebrity vigilante, but most folks don't complain.

Hawkeye looks like a pirate?

 

[The Question]

Hawkeye looks like a pirate?

I think he sortof looks like one. Just as much as WWI Union Jack, at least.

 

[Anubis]

A superhero pirate.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I think he sortof looks like one. Just as much as WWI Union Jack, at least.

Maybe the purple's throwing me. I always thought he just looked like an ex-circus performer.

I kind of wish they'd redesign Hawkeye's costume closer to the Avengers Forever costume, with the cloth overgarment thing. I don't know what it's called, but Wraith--the new guy from Annihilation: Conquest--wears one, too.

 

[PhotoJones]

You are all stupid. Union Jack's suit is awesome.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I never said it wasn't. Just that it looks rather more piratish than spyish. I think it's up there with Ultimate Cap's WWII costume in the wartime superhero costume category.

 

[Anubis]

Maybe the purple's throwing me. I always thought he just looked like an ex-circus performer.

I kind of wish they'd redesign Hawkeye's costume closer to the Avengers Forever costume, with the cloth overgarment thing. I don't know what it's called, but Wraith--the new guy from Annihilation: Conquest--wears one, too.

It's a Pancho

Yeah, I think Hawkeye could pull it off too. Draw one.