The NEW Justice League Casting and Discussion Thread

[Willi Berg]

My guess?

A) Turn a profit

B) Don't piss off Nolan

C) Try not to blatantly copy Marvel Studios

... in that order

What about that Superman lawsuit regarding his rights affecting his involvement?

 

[Showtime]

In the 9 months I've been contributing to CBM, I've had over 40 exclusives regarding WB comic movies (and at least 15 for Marvel), none of which have been proven false. The most important being the official Green Lantern synopsis. I am not **************, and therefore don't feel the need to justify all the information posted there, I'm simply a journalist who contributes to the site.

Hope that helped.

Like "Joe Mayo's" name...frankly this sounds made up. A lot of strange holes in this story. You could understand why people would be skeptical, especially coming from **************, where anybody can post whatever they want about whatever they want when they want.

I also think it would make more sense to point out which articles have proven to be true, rather than articles that have not yet been proven false.

 

[MultiPurposePon]

Like "Joe Mayo's" name...frankly this sounds made up. A lot of strange holes in this story. You could understand why people would be skeptical, especially coming from **************, where anybody can post whatever they want about whatever they want when they want.

I also think it would make more sense to point out which articles have proven to be true, rather than articles that have not yet been proven false.

Very good point, sorry for the confusion. Off the top of my head:

- GL Holographic Poster
- Captain America Movie Logo
- GL Synopsis
- Silver Savage not in Planet Hulk
- Thor Movie Logo
- GL Movie Logo
- Infinity Gauntlet in Thor
- IF and BP solo films

And just today Kevin Feige confirmed the Guardians of the Galaxy movie I posted about last week.

Not to mentions the few dozen set photos revealing Abin Sur's ship, Ferris Airfield, Martin Jordan's plane, etc.

Currently there are about 12 or so active ones I've posted, and you'll have to wait for the films to come out.

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About your other comment: as you should know, especially in the position you're in, that skepticism has nothing to do with the validity of news. Just because something if hard to accept because of personal preference, don't mean it isn't reality.

 

[OptimusPrime114]

THE "SO-CALLED" JUSTICE LEAGUE PROJECT

Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) = Ryan Reynolds

Flash (Barry Allen) = Matthew Morrison

Wonder Woman (Diana Prince) = Bridget Regan

Aquaman (Arthur Curry) = Alexander Skarsgard

Martian Manhunter (J'onn J'onzz) = Lance Reddick

 

[Showtime]

Very good point, sorry for the confusion. Off the top of my head:

- GL Holographic Poster
- Captain America Movie Logo
- GL Synopsis
- Silver Savage not in Planet Hulk
- Thor Movie Logo
- GL Movie Logo
- Infinity Gauntlet in Thor
- IF and BP solo films

And just today Kevin Feige confirmed the Guardians of the Galaxy movie I posted about last week.

Not to mentions the few dozen set photos revealing Abin Sur's ship, Ferris Airfield, Martin Jordan's plane, etc.

Currently there are about 12 or so active ones I've posted, and you'll have to wait for the films to come out.

Do you have links to these articles, I would be interested in reading them.

About your other comment: as you should know, especially in the position you're in, that skepticism has nothing to do with the validity of news. Just because something if hard to accept because of personal preference, don't mean it isn't reality.

Well in my case, I can just check with studio, or people that work with a studio and they can tell me. Especially if it is WB/DC related. So it has nothing to do with me being skeptical. I can pretty much learn if something is valid or not with a couple emails or phone calls.

 

[Willi Berg]

skepticism has nothing to do with the validity of news. Just because something if hard to accept because of personal preference, don't mean it isn't reality.

Skepticism isn't just based on personal preference, but on evidence, proof, history, what we've heard before etc. I still find this hard to believe. Because it doesn't completely add up.

 

[MultiPurposePon]

Do you have links to these articles, I would be interested in reading them.

I wish I had the time to copy/paste all the links here, but I don't. You can easily just go to my homepage: http://**************.com/fansites/Poniverse/ and scroll through to find them all.

Well in my case, I can just check with studio, or people that work with a studio and they can tell me. Especially if it is WB/DC related. So it has nothing to do with me being skeptical. I can pretty much learn if something is valid or not with a couple emails or phone calls.

I'm glad you have those kinds of connections, you should easily be able to get a comment on this info then. If I had sources that were willing to go on record with their names and studio positions for these kinds of tidbits it would surely make life easier. But I role with what I have that I deem to be valid.

Unfortunately, the best stuff I get in is stuff I can't post. For example, I have official images of several Green Lantern Corps members for the film. I can't release them just yet without getting one of my sources in trouble.

 

[Octoberist]

I read Poni's trip to the Green Lantern and I can say, the guy has a lot of guts and sources to go around.

That being said, it's weird that would even consider even auditioning any actors when there's no script, no director, no nothing for the solo deal. Is that even a smart move, especially when a director of the solo film is not involved (or even exist).

To me, it's just jumping the gun, UNLESS DC ENTERTAINMENT are completely involved, you know.

 

[dnno1]

50% huh? Don't remember too many kids in my theartre when i saw TDK 3 times. Even anyone outside the fans circle knows JL comprises of Superman and Batman first and foremost, hell the JL animated series helped spread that gospel. You wanna do a team up film with the 'left overs'? Fine, but don't dare tell me that it's a JL film when it's missing the two members that everyone wants to see first and foremost.

That's the highest proportion of the general audience (ages 12-24). The make up about 49% of the audience based on ticket sales according to the MPAA(see page 8). Technically, if you want to call a kid anyone under 17, then that would be about 27% of the audience.

 

[Dark Knight]

This guy certainly makes his case regarding his credibility. Maybe the Zach Levis and Scott Porters' of the world, are secretly auditioning for the Flash or Aquaman roles, and NOT for Superman? IMO, Superman and Batman will most certainly be involved in a JL film...but there roles may not be major roles.

Anyways, here is an interesting post below that was posted on the GL Forums:




Originally Posted by MultiPurposePon
Hi guys, I just noticed this thread and thought I'd stop by to expand on the article I posted at CBM; maybe it will shed a bit more light on the issue at hand. Considering how much some of the WB suits keep an eye out for my articles (I've had over 25 pictures and movie details removed from the web), I feel more comfortable sharing this on a messageboard.

It appears the majority of commentators didn't actually read the entire article, so let me repost it here:

Several weeks ago, Warner Bros announced they are planning on fill the gap left by the culmination of the Harry Potter franchise with DC superhero films. With Green Lantern due out in theaters next summer, along with the third installment of Christopher Nolan's Batman trilogy and a rebooted Superman film the following year, fans were beginning to wonder how soon it would be before these heroes came together into one ensemble movie. Now we're a few steps closer.

A Justice League of America film has been given the tentative green light by Warner Bros. Though the film is still in it's very, very early stages (no script has been officially worked on, but the basic plot is outlined), actors are quietly being pursued to test for the roles. The big surprise is the current team roster: Green Lantern, The Flash, Wonder Woman, Aquaman and Martian Manhunter. That's right, folks, no Superman or Batman; at least not yet. The film will be used to introduce Wonder Woman, Aquaman and Martian Manhunter to general audiences. Both Green Lantern and The Flash movies would have already been released in theaters, so there would be no need to delve into their origins. Either Superman or Batman, or both, could eventually make their way into the script; though at this time the studio is slowly moving forward without their inclusion. Several comics series, including the team's first outing in The Brave and the Bold, have worked quite well without Batman and Superman as a part of the initial team.

With the role of Green Lantern already taken by actor Ryan Reynolds, four slots are waiting to be filled. Can a JLA film meet the expectations of fans, and gain general audience approval, without the inclusion of DC Comics' "big two" heroes? Fans will have to wait and see.

Now that you've read it, you'll see that nowhere in the article does it say that Supes or Bats WON'T be in the film; only that DC/WB are currently (and quietly) looking at their casting and directorial options for JLA outside of those two characters. Since the Batman trilogy is so successful on it's own, and they have high hopes for the Superman one being planned, they are simply fostering the idea that the first JLA movie can work without those two as central characters if for whatever reason they can't be included. Remember, DC does not and will not follow the same strategy of Marvel. That means we should expect several of the JLA members to have their origins explained in the ensemble film (ala New Frontier).

For those of you who believe Martin Campbell issued a statement saying Green Lantern has nothing to do with a future Justice League movie, you're a bit wrong. Here's the actual quote:

There's a lot of talk that this might build up to a "Justice League” movie – does that affect your choices at all?
No, not at all. I think we stand absolutely on our own and we stand as our own superhero, our own story. And a terrific story it is.


There's also a lot of confusion as to the rumor GL2 will begin production before the first hits theaters. Allow me to clarify:

The rumor came from BleedingCool.com, who "appear to have been schmoozing with some of the movie's production crew around the New Orleans bars." This was their statement:

"...the word is that shooting on Green Lantern 2 is scheduled to begin before the first movie is even released.

So confident of a smash are Warner Bros, that they already making big plans to use current shooting location New Orleans as a stand-in for DC’s Coast City in the sequel, which will be announced for either a Summer or Christmas 2012 release, depending on where the Flash movie fits in.

And if the first film does the megabucks they are expecting, then Warners will greenlight a third Green Lantern movie to be shot back to back with the second, for release in 2013. "

From what I know, this is by no means true.

- The first draft script for the sequel is due in November of this year.

- Filming for the sequel will not be green lit until the first film is released internationally.

- Ryan Reynolds is booked up through September of next year at the very earliest. His next projects immediately after GL are The Change-Up, The Croods and R.I.P.D. He's also involved in Motorcade and Most Wanted. Not to mention Deadpool.


Now, in Geoff Johns' last convention interview before SDCC he said that there WOULD be some JLA movie related happenings at SDCC. There was no talk about the film besides the repetitive denial statements. What's curious to me is that one of the DC SDCC exclusives happened to be this item, which was a homage to The Brave and the Bold issue 328; the first assemblage of the JLA:




The other thing I've noticed being questioned is the credibility of this information. Now, I'm not here to convince anyone that my sources are viable, that's for you to individually consider. But for those of you unaware of my scoops, I'd advise you to check out my news feed: http://**************.com/fansites/Poniverse/

In the 9 months I've been contributing to CBM, I've had over 40 exclusives regarding WB comic movies (and at least 15 for Marvel), and not one has proven false; the most important being the official Green Lantern synopsis. I am not **************, and therefore don't feel the need to justify all the information posted there, I'm simply a journalist who contributes to the site.

Hope that helped.

 

[Willi Berg]

^He already posted that on the previous page.

 

[Dark Knight]

I wish I had the time to copy/paste all the links here, but I don't. You can easily just go to my homepage: http://**************.com/fansites/Poniverse/ and scroll through to find them all.



I'm glad you have those kinds of connections, you should easily be able to get a comment on this info then. If I had sources that were willing to go on record with their names and studio positions for these kinds of tidbits it would surely make life easier. But I role with what I have that I deem to be valid.

Unfortunately, the best stuff I get in is stuff I can't post. For example, I have official images of several Green Lantern Corps members for the film. I can't release them just yet without getting one of my sources in trouble.

The same goes for others who have "sources". No one can release the names of the alleged sources due to them getting in trouble.

What I have heard about the JL film meshes what you have heard. It's slowly being developed. However from what I have heard, instead of having a sequel to Nolans' Superman Reboot due to be released during December 2012, the JL film will be kind of considered the sequel to the Nolan Superman film.

Therefore if that does wind up being the case.....Superman will definitely be in the JL film.

 

[Octoberist]

It's funny. I don't think fanboys know journalism too well. Never reveal your sources.

 

[Willi Berg]

No one's talking about revealing sources. What those who do have connections can do is confirm/clarify this news by contacting other people who might also know what the deal is.

 

[Octoberist]

I meant the people who posted messages on Poni's articles in the 'talk back'. I always see "reveal your sources' and I'm not like "No".

Anyway, yeah, usually you need to do fact checking, hence a second source.

 

[Willi Berg]

Yes, the higher the better.

 

[Octoberist]

Anyway, I'm more concerned about the solo movies and how the tie into Justice League.

Also, I'm wondering if Geoff Johns is involved. So far, he's been a big player for the Green Lantern movie.

 

[Dark Knight]

It's funny. I don't think fanboys know journalism too well. Never reveal your sources.

Yep.

However, TRUE "journalism" is pretty much non existent in this day and age.

 

[Dark Knight]

Anyway, I'm more concerned about the solo movies and how the tie into Justice League.

Also, I'm wondering if Geoff Johns is involved. So far, he's been a big player for the Green Lantern movie.

Johns is involved. He is the man at DCE in charge of getting these projects off the ground.

 

[Octoberist]

He's the glue and I hope that they solve everything.

IF they have to resort to recasting Bats or Supes...I don't know. Since Mark Ruffalo and Don Cheadle paved the way or recasting, all bets are off.

 

[Octoberist]

And yes, I hope the
Matthew Morrison' for Flash catches on.

 

[Optimus_Prime_]

He's the glue and I hope that they solve everything.

IF they have to resort to recasting Bats or Supes...I don't know. Since Mark Ruffalo and Don Cheadle paved the way or recasting, all bets are off.

I don't really want Bale playing Batman in Justice League. I dunno, it just strikes me as a bad choice, especially since Nolan has gone out of his way to exclude so much of the fantasy element from Batman. Bale's Batman isn't the same Batman who'd have contigency plans against all the superhumans. He's a much more localized hero in the Nolanverse.

 

[Octoberist]

Nolan made great movies out of his Batman series; they have transended both critics and fans alike so they're a touchstone in the genre. You're saying as if Nolan has 'gotten rid of the fantasy' as if he was doing it out of spite. I think they're grounded but they're still fantasy. I think the 'realism' angle has been overexgerated. You still have a clown. You still have a fear spraying Scarecrow, an evenly burnted Two-Face and a megalomaniac out of Ra's.

Second, I think he can still play Batman, as a different version of Batman. Like how Kevin Conroy voices Batman in different incarnations of the character in different cartoons or games.

 

[Project862006]

did we forget this

http://www.dccomics.com/dcu/graphic_novels/?gn=1401

did'nt have batman or superman

 

[Octoberist]

To be honest though, you have to think about the non-fan or the causal fan; they won't care. They'll be like "Where's Bats and Supes?"