The New Official Aquaman Thread

[Hush]

I really want that hoodie.

 

[Mystirious]

Geez. Power down, Pink Ranger.

Mera could have found other ways to...get him wet.

Oh, there are so many ways to read that...

It couldn't have been seconds. His "muscles" just came back from the dead. It needs more practice. I say it took at least 5 hours, hence Mera looking really wasted.

Given Aquaman's high levels of strength and stamina I'm not surprised that he wore her out

 

[Hush]

SO they may have brought him back but they are still ****ing him up the ass, check out this from Van Scivers facebook.

Ethan Van Sciver: Aquaman Rebirth is off the table, fellows! It's part of BRIGHTEST DAY!
2 hours ago

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm all for hating on creators as much as the next guy, but I don't find that particularly objectionable. It just sounds like they're going to really focus on Aquaman in Brightest Day instead of giving him a whole "rebirth" series all to himself. Not a big deal.

 

[Drz]

Aslong as Aquaman will say "Outrageous!" atleast once in Brightest Day will satisfy me.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Blegh. The Brave and the Bold's Aquaman bears little resemblance to the comics' version and I'd like to keep it that way. The former's fun for the rugrats but I don't need to see that over-the-top silliness brought to the latter.

 

[Hush]

I get what your saying about it being tied to Brightest Day, but I was really hoping for a Aquaman centric Mini, it would be nice to get the general public a big awakening to the character, not where he is a part of an ensemble.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I think it'll actually be better in Brightest Day. As silly as it is, Aquaman's very name still has a big stigma attached to it. I think more people are likely to read Brightest Day than any comic with "Aquaman" in the title right now, and in doing so they'll be exposed to the (possibly, if Johns plays his cards right) cool, confident, regal Aquaman plenty of us know, hopefully dispelling some of their assumptions and making them more open to whatever follow-up projects Aquaman appears in afterward.

 

[CConn]

Blegh. The Brave and the Bold's Aquaman bears little resemblance to the comics' version and I'd like to keep it that way. The former's fun for the rugrats but I don't need to see that over-the-top silliness brought to the latter.

I still say that's a very demeaning way of looking at it. For a character who - for at least a decade - was little more than a ripoff of Namor in personality and demeanor, a fresh new way of looking at the royal angle of the character would hardly be a bad thing.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he should be hokey in the comics, but I found that concept of Aquaman being kind of caught up in his own royalty and superheroism is interesting. It makes sense in a lot of ways as well. Granted, it's not something that would make much sense given Aquaman's character progression in the comics, but if they were doing a flashback or something, a little bit of a pompous king attitude would be cool. I think.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I still say that's a very demeaning way of looking at it. For a character who - for at least a decade - was little more than a ripoff of Namor in personality and demeanor, a fresh new way of looking at the royal angle of the character would hardly be a bad thing.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he should be hokey in the comics, but I found that concept of Aquaman being kind of caught up in his own royalty and superheroism is interesting. It makes sense in a lot of ways as well. Granted, it's not something that would make much sense given Aquaman's character progression in the comics, but if they were doing a flashback or something, a little bit of a pompous king attitude would be cool. I think.

And that's why I don't care to see it in the comics. B&B Aquaman is effectively a different character who shares some common traits with the comics' Aquaman.

It's like Ultimate Captain America and regular Captain America. People say that Ultimate Cap being a giant *****ebag shouldn't matter to fans of the regular Cap because they're two different characters, but then those same people advocate changing regular Cap to be more like Ultimate Cap because they like Ultimate Cap more.

You can't have it both ways. If you like B&B Aquaman, that's great, he's fun in his own element. But he is not and should not be the comic Aquaman.

 

[CConn]

And that's why I don't care to see it in the comics. B&B Aquaman is effectively a different character who shares some common traits with the comics' Aquaman.

It's like Ultimate Captain America and regular Captain America. People say that Ultimate Cap being a giant *****ebag shouldn't matter to fans of the regular Cap because they're two different characters, but then those same people advocate changing regular Cap to be more like Ultimate Cap because they like Ultimate Cap more.

You can't have it both ways. If you like B&B Aquaman, that's great, he's fun in his own element. But he is not and should not be the comic Aquaman.

You totally misread that sentence.

Firstly, character re-characterizations occur constantly in mainstream continuity. To say a change in Aquaman's personality (and he's gone through several, btw) is equal to Ultimate Captain America, is laughable.

Secondly, when I said it wouldn't fit the character, I meant now. As a mature Aquman that's gone through with the Namor phase, and the water hand, etc., etc. You're right, a B&B characterization of Aquaman for the character right now would be ridiculous.

But if they were to say, do a flash back issue, or something set in Aquaman's early years, using elements of that interpretation of the character would - IMO - be a pretty good idea and it certainly wouldn't - and this is a fact - be no more jarring change to the character than the bearded, shirtless land-hater and the squid and tentacles...thing.

 

[Anubis]

Eventually, somebody will have Aquaman drop an Outrageous, and damnit, it will be awesome.

 

[Kurosawa]

B & B Aquaman kinda reminds me of Marvel's Hercules. He's good fun...although it is a characterization for Aquaman that is entirely out of left field.

I grew up with the Aquaman of the Steve Skeates/Jim Aparo era, so that's Aquaman to me. I think a certain temperament works for him. He's not arrogant and haughty like Namor, but he does have a temper.

 

[Hush]

Cant the 4th volume of the series just start continuing again?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

You totally misread that sentence.

Firstly, character re-characterizations occur constantly in mainstream continuity. To say a change in Aquaman's personality (and he's gone through several, btw) is equal to Ultimate Captain America, is laughable.

Secondly, when I said it wouldn't fit the character, I meant now. As a mature Aquman that's gone through with the Namor phase, and the water hand, etc., etc. You're right, a B&B characterization of Aquaman for the character right now would be ridiculous.

But if they were to say, do a flash back issue, or something set in Aquaman's early years, using elements of that interpretation of the character would - IMO - be a pretty good idea and it certainly wouldn't - and this is a fact - be no more jarring change to the character than the bearded, shirtless land-hater and the squid and tentacles...thing.

You're assuming I thought either of those were actually good. The bearded phase wasn't terrible, mostly because you're mistaken about his ever being a "land-hater." They took inspiration from Namor to angst Arthur up, but he stopped short of ever being nearly as villainous as Namor is often portrayed. He was just more serious and grim--effectively, more like your stereotypical weary king. Plus, there was a specific progression toward it starting with the loss of his hand and his wife.

The squiddy period was just dumb. Aquanewb was all right, but there was really no reason they couldn't have done a similar story with Arthur in his place and Atlan in Arthur's.

Neither of those are my personal favorite Aquaman, though. That'd be the balance Arcudi and Pfeifer struck in the Sub Diego era. Stern but not humorless, tough but kind, etc. Arthur ironically made a better king in Sub Diego, where he had no official position, than he ever did in Atlantis.

Note my phrasing up there: "my personal favorite." I've never said they couldn't possibly find some way to work the B&B portrayal into the comics. I've been saying I don't want to see it because I think the B&B portrayal, while a bit of silly fun in its context within the equally silly and fun Brave and the Bold cartoon, is too hokey for the comic Aquaman, past, present, or future.

 

[Mystirious]

Yes, I love Aquamn in B&tB but it's not really a portrayal that would fit in the main DCU

 

[yenaled]

B & B Aquaman kinda reminds me of Marvel's Hercules. He's good fun...although it is a characterization for Aquaman that is entirely out of left field.

I grew up with the Aquaman of the Steve Skeates/Jim Aparo era, so that's Aquaman to me. I think a certain temperament works for him. He's not arrogant and haughty like Namor, but he does have a temper.

Bronze Age Aquaman was awesome, Jim Aparo did some amazing work on it and it was a mature and surprising take especially for the period.

 

[hippie_hunter]

My newest prized possession:

 

[OnedetachedonE]

DC's strength scale lists Aquaman as pressing around 100 tons overhead...if in water. Out of water, he is listed as a 60 ton guy.

Truth or bogus?

Why do answer the way you do? Scans would be helpful.

 

[Jordacar]

The way I see it, get him in the water and he's Superman.

 

[Hush]

Hell out of water he is Superman, oh and there is a Aquaman thread.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

From what I've seen, he's about as strong as it gets underwater and not quite in the top tier out of water. Close, but probably more comparable to the Martian Manhunter or Wonder Woman, as opposed to Superman.

 

[Hush]

Yeah but WonderWoman went toe to toe with an "unleashed" Superman in Sacrafice, so that has to put her pretty up there and by consequence that puts Aquaman pretty up there. Plus there is that awesome scene where MM morphed as Superman, Arthur full on went right at him not holding back soooo I would say that Arthur could get into it with Superman but it wouldnt be as one sided as people may think.