Homecoming The Next Spider-Man - - - - Part 13

[Dark Raven]

I say that because both Maguire and Garfield were on a shortlist prior to being cast.

Hemsworth and Phratt were not.

I suppose he attends a frat?

 

[gremleytel]

It sort of is a shortlist. these being the strongest and most likely candidates at the moment.

But what about the mystery names that even Sneider states are also on the list? Could be looking at another 5 or more names.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

It sort of is a shortlist. these being the strongest and most likely candidates at the moment.

most talked about, maybe. "sort of" isn't enough for a news cast of this caliber.

 

[harryoscop]

But what about the mystery names that even Sneider states are also on the list? Could be looking at another 5 or more names.

The other actors aren't as strong as the main five emphasised in the article.

 

[gremleytel]

The other actors aren't as strong as the main five emphasised in the article.

I did not get that from reading his article at all.

 

[Urich Leeds]

I know a number of Teen Wolf fans (well, I don't know if you would call them fans) that don't understand how he can film 5B of Teen Wolf with his current schedule. I can't imagine trying to fit in CW.

Film his CW scenes simultaneously with Deepwater Horizon (which he has a smaller role in), and film Teen Wolf 5B in the fall.

Though to be fair, there's a really good chance he won't be returning for 5B.

 

[Urich Leeds]

It sort of is a shortlist. these being the strongest and most likely candidates at the moment.

No, it isn't. And you don't know that for sure.

he other actors aren't as strong as the main five emphasised in the article.

And how do you know this? "Heard most often" doesn't equate to "strongest contenders". Nor does it make the contenders we haven't heard of not equally as strong.

 

[PeterBenParker]

I can vouch for Talion. He definitely knew about Wolff before his name was said to be officially in the running.

Yep, Talion's heard about Wolff long before we got the shortlist.

 

[gremleytel]

Yep, Talion's heard about Wolff long before we got the shortlist.

Sneider tweeted a comment about Wolff at the MTV Awards stating "could he be next Spider-Man? with a photo of him there. I guessed he was one of the names Sneider had on his shortlist.

 

[Pecola1]

Okay so, talion asked me to advocate for him because he was kind enough to share info with me re. his source.

He does have a source. This source does not make Talion's word gospel, nor is his source infallible.

So my advice is to not outright ignore Talion. What he says re. spider-man casting is worth listening to, but IMO should not be the only thing that guides conversation on here.

Finally, whatever talion knows at time of writing is more or less exactly what we as a community know regarding spider-man casting. This may of course change in the future pending additional info from talion's source.

I think we should be open to competing viewpoints on here and should respect rational arguments, even if they turn out wrong.

THat's basically whatihave been assuming. Feel free to not answer this if you can't, but is his source someone who works at marvel, or a reporter? Obviously if it is a marvel worker it would not be someone higher up, which would collaborate that the person does not speak words of the God's.
I've said it before, I truly believe he has sources, but I don't trust his sources because not only have I not seen them, but because Talion has a reputation for trusting sources that should not be trusted 100% of the time. Now you have confirmed my stance, without losing talions trust, or revealing anything secret. Thank you for being a messenger!

The funny thing is we are going back and forth and Peter Parker is in all likelihood already cast.

As for the list, my take is the original tweet (from someone reputable) simply stated that there is a short list of 5 actors, Schneider then phone around and listed the names his sources had mentioned the most rather than listing the actual shortlist.

If several sources are mentioning the same names there is probably sometime in it but at the same time the 5 actors aren't necessarily the final 5 the original tweeter mentioned.

Exactly! Even a Dylan-O-Hater can see what I mean! It isn't that Sneider isnt' trustworthy, its that when he makes it clear that his list is not official, we can only trust that... his list is not official. If anything we must credit Sneider to be able to believe him that his list isn't official!

This place will be unbearable when Spider-Man is eventually cast and the actor isn't DOB.
But fear not, all will not be lost. In Back to the Future Eric Stoltz was brought in because Michael J Fox had commitments but after a few shots the filmmakers decided that Stoltz wasn't working out and so waited for MJF. So if DOB isn't cast don't give up, the person cast may SUCK during filming and DOB may STILL get in.

You are kinda streatching it... sarcasm to make us 'Dylan lovers' think it's stupid to think he is in? Or just showing that even the craziest things can happen to allow a fan fav actor in?

According to some random dude:

Apparently, what with Spider-Man having a larger role than just a cameo in CW, Dylan's schedule with other films has become less than ideal.

I may or may not have made this up

Sneider has made the claim that spider-man will have a cemeo. I trust Sneider 100% so I will believe the spidey-cameo. (I kid... obviously he will have a bigger role than a cameo. they had a whole alternate script with him)

He showed screen shots of correspondence between him and his source. It's honestly nothing earth shattering, but it's from a source (of sorts) all the same.

The thing is I personally can't just trust a source that I know isn't 100% accurate, and base my conversation on that source. Especially if I don't even know if the source has an ounce of accuracy. (I assume the source is in between, slightly towards the accurate side, which means it is a trustworthy reporter who has overheard some unofficial talk.)

Not trying to offend you at all. We still love you, all of you, every version of you, every clone of you that logs on... Every alter ego.

Exactly! We love harry no matter what phase, gas, liquid, or solid! Or even if he's a polymer! (Probably most likely IYKWIM)

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

Though to be fair, there's a really good chance he won't be returning for 5B.

do you say that with the mindset of him having the spiderman role, or that that's how the story of teen wolf's been going?

 

[harryoscop]

No, it isn't. And you don't know that for sure.



And how do you know this? "Heard most often" doesn't equate to "strongest contenders". Nor does it make the contenders we haven't heard of not equally as strong.

Then why would he only use Butterfield, Wolff, James, Holland and Chalamet to represent the supposed shortlist? I think it's obvious that they are the main five contenders.

 

[Talion]

Okay so, talion asked me to advocate for him because he was kind enough to share info with me re. his source.

He does have a source. This source does not make Talion's word gospel, nor is his source infallible.

So my advice is to not outright ignore Talion. What he says re. spider-man casting is worth listening to, but IMO should not be the only thing that guides conversation on here.

Finally, whatever talion knows at time of writing is more or less exactly what we as a community know regarding spider-man casting. This may of course change in the future pending additional info from talion's source.

I think we should be open to competing viewpoints on here and should respect rational arguments, even if they turn out wrong.

I can vouch for Talion. He definitely knew about Wolff before his name was said to be officially in the running.

Thanks, dudes. All I'm trying to do is help the board getting to understand where the Spider-Man is going, I'm not trying to be the guy that guides the conversation here, but neither I think that's wise in the moment to have the "Dylan or burst" attitude that a lot of the regulars that keep attacking me have here. What I was trying to do is say "hey, well that's not what I hear that they are going for" without compromising the trust of my sources.

The name he most likely got from Snieder, who follows him on Twitter.

You assume too much. Sneider is a professional, I'm a random dude in the internet that unintentionally got contacts that lead him to some info. I trust him, and while obviously Marvel could end up casting someone that is not in the list - and I have heard other names just like Da7e heard as well - but I can assure you that even if that happened, it'd be someone from the teenagers 17-20, not older.

If you choose to trust me or not, once again it's up to you.

Wait, what? We're getting an announcement tomorrow?

Also, just watched the interview with Nat Wolff regarding Spider-Man... I find him super annoying and kind of dull.

No we aren't getting an announcement tomorrow, not that no one is aware of. DudeSpidey was joking and after that confessed he didn't know what he was talking about, afraid that he'd get banned or something.

 

[Pecola1]

I did not get that from reading his article at all.

Because it was not in the article. We don't know if there are others, and cannot know if the 5 mentioned are any more strongly being looked at by Marvel/Sony or even if they are being looked at at all. allw e know is Sneider has 'sources' which say that these 5 kids were 'most talked about'. By whom? Who knows!
Honestly I trust Talion more than Sneider, Sneider has shown in his 'short-list-5' that he would rather be deceptive and let people assume what what he is saying is official, than to make a claim that he may not be correct.
Though at this point it is the same with Talion I guess... he assumes what he knows is 100% correct, except Talion actually states it as if it is 100% correct... and that you would be stupid not to believe a random guy who has 'sources' that you know nothing about.

 

[NotSoLongAgo]

Then why would he only use Butterfield, Wolff, James, Holland and Chalamet to represent the supposed shortlist? I think it's obvious that they are the main five contenders.

He says why in the article; he doesn't know the other names

 

[PeterBenParker]

Then why would he only use Butterfield, Wolff, James, Holland and Chalamet to represent the supposed shortlist? I think it's obvious that they are the main five contenders.

With more not mentioned, mind you.

Realistically, any 17-20 year old has a shot based on the age alone, it's only after they're looked at is when they'll have a real opportunity.

 

[Alchemyst]

Has anyone seen this? Sorry if I'm late

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[Talion]

Then why would he only use Butterfield, Wolff, James, Holland and Chalamet to represent the supposed shortlist? I think it's obvious that they are the main five contenders.

They are the main contenders. The writing has been on the wall all along: look for kids, teenagers that were on big Hollywood movies in the last five years. They could get a complete unknown, but I don't think that's likely. What I'm hoping is that they'll find their Hugh Jackman while testing these kids. The age range is the one that I gave you, and if people would rather think it differently, it's fine, but I've heard that after been in contact with at least three people that clearly know their way in this business. That's not a hunch, that's a VERY educated and informed affirmation.

 

[PeterBenParker]

Has anyone seen this? Sorry if I'm late

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I think that was being discussed.

No worries, though.

 

[Pecola1]

Then why would he only use Butterfield, Wolff, James, Holland and Chalamet to represent the supposed shortlist? I think it's obvious that they are the main five contenders.

hary, not even spider-neil believes that Sneiders list is official. Why? Because anyone can tell by reading the careful words he chose to make it clear that his words were not official, and neither were his sources, nor his list.
How have you so quickly flipped on believing this article even though O'Brien haters don't believe it? Did Talion show you more sources? Is there anything that can be shared which would confirm Sneider?

 

[Talion]

Has anyone seen this? Sorry if I'm late

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Ugh. Yes. Will be posting on the news thread. Just ugh, please don't go there Marvel.

 

[Urich Leeds]

do you say that with the mindset of him having the spiderman role, or that that's how the story of teen wolf's been going?

I say that with the mindset of a Teen Wolf fan (which I was long before this reboot was announced, and I even considered him as a candidate), and as someone who has followed along with the production and rumors of the new season.

Has nothing to do with my wanting him for the role.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

Has anyone seen this? Sorry if I'm late

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uh ohhh I think he knows something

and that girl looks like helga

 

[harryoscop]

hary, not even spider-neil believes that Sneiders list is official. Why? Because anyone can tell by reading the careful words he chose to make it clear that his words were not official, and neither were his sources, nor his list.
How have you so quickly flipped on believing this article even though O'Brien haters don't believe it? Did Talion show you more sources? Is there anything that can be shared which would confirm Sneider?

Because I think they are the main five.. I mean heck, even Collider reported on it.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

I say that with the mindset of a Teen Wolf fan (which I was long before this reboot was announced, and I even considered him as a candidate), and has someone who has followed along with the production and rumors of the new season.

Has nothing to do with my wanting him for the role.

ah, well then I think your argument holds more water.