Homecoming The Next Spider-Man - Part 9

[harryoscop]

Ok,Ok,Sorry. I got a little too aggressive there.
I just REALLY want Dylan O'Brien for Spider-Man.

You still shouldn't lash on other users though..
And fixed

 

[ernesth100]

Ok,Ok,Sorry. I got a little too aggressive there.
I just REALLY don't want a teenager for Spider-Man.

Damn dude. You don't want it that bad? I mean, who knows maybe there's a teenager out there who could knock anything O'Brien or Lerman would've done out of the park and steal Downey and Evans thunder in Civil War.

 

[Mumei]

No, Asa looks his age (Okay, a bit younger). 16 years-old don't look like Dylan, they look like Asa.

I don't think that it's an either-or proposition. People develop at different rates; some sixteen year olds are still 5'4", 110 pounds and could pass along just fine as sixth graders; some sixteen year olds are twice as big, shaving every day, and could sneak their way into a club with a fake ID. Or some guys just experience more facial masculinization earlier in their development (or experience it at all; sometimes people remain baby-faced into their mid to late 20s).

And some of you are simply exaggerating how old he looks. This was in the most recent season, which was filmed in early 2014. The actor on the left was 15, playing 15; O'Brien would have been 22, playing 17. Without knowing beforehand, I couldn't have told you that there was a seven year difference between them.

I think it's also important to remember that people will interpret the age of the actor relative to his co-stars. If you stick a slim, baby-faced 23 year old next to Chris Hemsworth who is nearly half a foot taller than him without boots, he's going to pass as a teenager. If you stick him next to RDJ, who is almost 50, he's going to pass as his teenage son. If you stick him next to Chris Evans, he's going to look like a skinny kid by comparison.

This isn't to deny that someone like, say, Asa looks even younger than this, but then I think that Asa has the height of an adult and the face of a 13 year old. He looks like he'll age like Thomas Brodie-Sangster has, honestly.

I do think that dismissing actors older than 20 is completely justified, and you are completely on your right to disagree with that. The thing is, several sources have reported that they are casting teenagers for the role, and it's my personal opinion that's the right choice. I don't think it would be wise from Marvel to cast a TV actor with an already built in fanbase like O'Brien because that could easily turn against them at some point.

I think Marvel is going to get a teenager around 18 and 19 years old, and make him Spider-Man for 10 to 15 years. Iron Man and Incredible Hulk were released in 2008, RDJ is getting close to ten years playing Tony Stark. I believe that they are going younger because the age might not be a problem now, but it will become a problem later. I trust the proven sources that Marvel is casting younger, and I applaud that choice. You might disagree with me, but at the end of the day it's Marvel and Sony that are calling the shots, and while there's a great influx of Dylan O'Brien fans that really want him to get the role, I've a hunch that ship has already sailed once they announced that Peter is going back to high school. That's what I think, based on information that we have so far.

Okay, but why do you think it is completely justified? I've explained why I don't think it is. Do you disagree with anything specific that I've said? What is your reasoning? "Marvel wants to cast a teenager," isn't a reason; that just changes the question to "Why does Marvel want to cast a teenager?" I want to discuss, not just trade back and forth, "Well, I respect your opinion," followed by no discussion. That's not fun.

Anyway, I'm not disagreeing that every indication we have is that they are going to cast a teenager. The only way you are wrong is if there is either misinformation, either intentional or due to miscommunication, or if they were going for younger but end up casting an actor older than their original intentions because they like how a particular actor fit for the role (which as I understand it is what happened with Garfield; they were planning on younger (not as young as Marvel is now but still) and ended up going with Garfield anyway despite his being 27 at the time of filming the first movie). But the simplest and most likely explanation is that you are right.

I just don't know why you think that's a good thing. Longevity seems like a marginal advantage, at least to me.

 

[ernesth100]

I can see a Teen Actor or An Adult Actor. Call me Spider-Man because *puts on shades* I'm in the middle of this Civil War.

YEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!

 

[Jay Beezy]

I don't think that it's an either-or proposition. People develop at different rates; some sixteen year olds are still 5'4", 110 pounds and could pass along just fine as sixth graders; some sixteen year olds are twice as big, shaving every day, and could sneak their way into a club with a fake ID. Or some guys just experience more facial masculinization earlier in their development (or experience it at all; sometimes people remain baby-faced into their mid to late 20s).

And some of you are simply exaggerating how old he looks. This was in the most recent season, which was filmed in early 2014. The actor on the left was 15, playing 15; O'Brien would have been 22, playing 17. Without knowing beforehand, I couldn't have told you that there was a seven year difference between them.

I think it's also important to remember that people will interpret the age of the actor relative to his co-stars. If you stick a slim, baby-faced 23 year old next to Chris Hemsworth who is nearly half a foot taller than him without boots, he's going to pass as a teenager. If you stick him next to RDJ, who is almost 50, he's going to pass as his teenage son. If you stick him next to Chris Evans, he's going to look like a skinny kid by comparison.

This isn't to deny that someone like, say, Asa looks even younger than this, but then I think that Asa has the height of an adult and the face of a 13 year old. He looks like he'll age like Thomas Brodie-Sangster has, honestly.



Okay, but why do you think it is completely justified? I've explained why I don't think it is. Do you disagree with anything specific that I've said? What is your reasoning? "Marvel wants to cast a teenager," isn't a reason; that just changes the question to "Why does Marvel want to cast a teenager?" I want to discuss, not just trade back and forth, "Well, I respect your opinion," followed by no discussion. That's not fun.

Anyway, I'm not disagreeing that every indication we have is that they are going to cast a teenager. The only way you are wrong is if there is either misinformation, either intentional or due to miscommunication, or if they were going for younger but end up casting an actor older than their original intentions because they like how a particular actor fit for the role (which as I understand it is what happened with Garfield; they were planning on younger (not as young as Marvel is now but still) and ended up going with Garfield anyway despite his being 27 at the time of filming the first movie). But the simplest and most likely explanation is that you are right.

I just don't know why you think that's a good thing. Longevity seems like a marginal advantage, at least to me.

On top of that, is a teenager more likely to not be starstruck and be able to hold his own with the other Avengers than a 20-something?

 

[ernesth100]

Just because he's a teenager doesn't mean just be sitting there gawking at Evans and RDJ.

 

[dany]

I don't think that it's an either-or proposition. People develop at different rates; some sixteen year olds are still 5'4", 110 pounds and could pass along just fine as sixth graders; some sixteen year olds are twice as big, shaving every day, and could sneak their way into a club with a fake ID. Or some guys just experience more facial masculinization earlier in their development (or experience it at all; sometimes people remain baby-faced into their mid to late 20s).

And some of you are simply exaggerating how old he looks. This was in the most recent season, which was filmed in early 2014. The actor on the left was 15, playing 15; O'Brien would have been 22, playing 17. Without knowing beforehand, I couldn't have told you that there was a seven year difference between them.

I think it's also important to remember that people will interpret the age of the actor relative to his co-stars. If you stick a slim, baby-faced 23 year old next to Chris Hemsworth who is nearly half a foot taller than him without boots, he's going to pass as a teenager. If you stick him next to RDJ, who is almost 50, he's going to pass as his teenage son. If you stick him next to Chris Evans, he's going to look like a skinny kid by comparison.

This isn't to deny that someone like, say, Asa looks even younger than this, but then I think that Asa has the height of an adult and the face of a 13 year old. He looks like he'll age like Thomas Brodie-Sangster has, honestly.



Okay, but why do you think it is completely justified? I've explained why I don't think it is. Do you disagree with anything specific that I've said? What is your reasoning? "Marvel wants to cast a teenager," isn't a reason; that just changes the question to "Why does Marvel want to cast a teenager?" I want to discuss, not just trade back and forth, "Well, I respect your opinion," followed by no discussion. That's not fun.

Anyway, I'm not disagreeing that every indication we have is that they are going to cast a teenager. The only way you are wrong is if there is either misinformation, either intentional or due to miscommunication, or if they were going for younger but end up casting an actor older than their original intentions because they like how a particular actor fit for the role (which as I understand it is what happened with Garfield; they were planning on younger (not as young as Marvel is now but still) and ended up going with Garfield anyway despite his being 27 at the time of filming the first movie). But the simplest and most likely explanation is that you are right.

I just don't know why you think that's a good thing. Longevity seems like a marginal advantage, at least to me.

Thomas could be a great Harry Osborn.

 

[Talion]

I made a promise two months ago that I wouldn't show my lists anymore.. but this will be the LAST time.

Current list:
1. Teo Halm/Dylan O'Brien
2. Charlie Rowe
3. Mateus Ward
4. Asa Buttermilk

I don't have a list, but from all the names that have turned here, Tim Chalamet and Asa Butterfield are the ones that I can SEE them delivering a great teenager Peter Parker.

And since I'm the resident theorist guy, I've been observing Chalamet's twitter and instagram and he has been PAINFULLY quiet, and I can't help but wonder WHY. harryscoop said the other day that's because he is starting college, but that's not true, he has already been in college since August, it's something else. He isn't very much active on Twitter, but he used to be VERY active on instagram until February at the Oscars. Then he was gone.

My new "theory" is that there's definitely something going on here. He's just TOO MUCH of a good candidate for not even been considered:

1. He has experience in big films with big actors in Interstellar, directed by Chris Nolan from all people;
2. He is 19 years old and seems to have some great comedy timing;
3. He is a NEW YORKER, from Hell's Kitchen, so he has the accent already nailed;
4. Since he had an instagram account, he never went so quiet.

Yes I've stalked his instagram and twitter, but there's something up with this dude. NOT SAYING that he is getting the role, but he IS one of the contenders for Peter Parker.

Check his twitter and instagram for yourselves:

https://***********/RealChalamet
https://instagram.com/liltimmytim/

This is a stage monologue of him, that's all I can find of him on youtuber, but he can be found on Interstellar as well:

[YT]cGh7BG242io[/YT]

I could be wrong, but I think he went quiet because he is one of Spidey's candidates. He might not get it, but yeah.

 

[Jay Beezy]

Just because he's a teenager doesn't mean just be sitting there gawking at Evans and RDJ.

But between a teenager and a 20-something, who is more likely to keep his composure around the likes of the guys playing the Avengers?

 

[NotSoLongAgo]

I don't have a list, but from all the names that have turned here, Tim Chalamet and Asa Butterfield are the ones that I can SEE them delivering a great teenager Peter Parker.

And since I'm the resident theorist guy, I've been observing Chalamet's twitter and instagram and he has been PAINFULLY quiet, and I can't help but wonder WHY. harryscoop said the other day that's because he is starting college, but that's not true, he has already been in college since August, it's something else. He isn't very much active on Twitter, but he used to be VERY active on instagram until February at the Oscars. Then he was gone.

My new "theory" is that there's definitely something up in there. He's just TOO MUCH of a good candidate for not even been considered:

1. He has experience in big films with big actors in Interstellar, directed by Chris Nolan from all people;
2. He is 19 years old and seems to have some great comedy timing;
3. He is a NEW YORKER, from Hell's Kitchen, so he has the accent already nailed;
4. Since he had an instagram account, he never went so quiet.

Yes I've stalked his instagram and twitter, but there's something up with this dude. NOT SAYING that he is getting the role, but he IS one of the contenders for Peter Parker.

Check his twitter and instagram for yourselves:

https://***********/RealChalamet
https://instagram.com/liltimmytim/

This is a stage monologue of him, that's all I can find of him on youtuber, but he can be found on Interstellar as well:

[YT]cGh7BG242io[/YT]

I could be wrong, but I think he went quiet because he is one of Spidey's candidates. He might not get it, but yeah.

Prolly not

 

[detection]

I don't think that it's an either-or proposition. People develop at different rates; some sixteen year olds are still 5'4", 110 pounds and could pass along just fine as sixth graders; some sixteen year olds are twice as big, shaving every day, and could sneak their way into a club with a fake ID. Or some guys just experience more facial masculinization earlier in their development (or experience it at all; sometimes people remain baby-faced into their mid to late 20s).

And some of you are simply exaggerating how old he looks. This was in the most recent season, which was filmed in early 2014. The actor on the left was 15, playing 15; O'Brien would have been 22, playing 17. Without knowing beforehand, I couldn't have told you that there was a seven year difference between them.

I think it's also important to remember that people will interpret the age of the actor relative to his co-stars. If you stick a slim, baby-faced 23 year old next to Chris Hemsworth who is nearly half a foot taller than him without boots, he's going to pass as a teenager. If you stick him next to RDJ, who is almost 50, he's going to pass as his teenage son. If you stick him next to Chris Evans, he's going to look like a skinny kid by comparison.

This isn't to deny that someone like, say, Asa looks even younger than this, but then I think that Asa has the height of an adult and the face of a 13 year old. He looks like he'll age like Thomas Brodie-Sangster has, honestly.



Okay, but why do you think it is completely justified? I've explained why I don't think it is. Do you disagree with anything specific that I've said? What is your reasoning? "Marvel wants to cast a teenager," isn't a reason; that just changes the question to "Why does Marvel want to cast a teenager?" I want to discuss, not just trade back and forth, "Well, I respect your opinion," followed by no discussion. That's not fun.

Anyway, I'm not disagreeing that every indication we have is that they are going to cast a teenager. The only way you are wrong is if there is either misinformation, either intentional or due to miscommunication, or if they were going for younger but end up casting an actor older than their original intentions because they like how a particular actor fit for the role (which as I understand it is what happened with Garfield; they were planning on younger (not as young as Marvel is now but still) and ended up going with Garfield anyway despite his being 27 at the time of filming the first movie). But the simplest and most likely explanation is that you are right.

I just don't know why you think that's a good thing. Longevity seems like a marginal advantage, at least to me.

You have many excellent points, but the one I bolded is so RIGHT ON. Another good comparison is Aaron-Taylor Jonhnson's Quicksilver; I'm guessing the character is supposed to be about ATJ's actual age, which is only a year older than Dylan O'Brien. But he just looks older than Dylan, especially the facial hair he sports for the part. Clean shaven, mussy haired Dylan looks years younger than him even though it's only one.

 

[Talion]

Okay, but why do you think it is completely justified? I've explained why I don't think it is. Do you disagree with anything specific that I've said? What is your reasoning? "Marvel wants to cast a teenager," isn't a reason; that just changes the question to "Why does Marvel want to cast a teenager?" I want to discuss, not just trade back and forth, "Well, I respect your opinion," followed by no discussion. That's not fun.

Anyway, I'm not disagreeing that every indication we have is that they are going to cast a teenager. The only way you are wrong is if there is either misinformation, either intentional or due to miscommunication, or if they were going for younger but end up casting an actor older than their original intentions because they like how a particular actor fit for the role (which as I understand it is what happened with Garfield; they were planning on younger (not as young as Marvel is now but still) and ended up going with Garfield anyway despite his being 27 at the time of filming the first movie). But the simplest and most likely explanation is that you are right.

I just don't know why you think that's a good thing. Longevity seems like a marginal advantage, at least to me.

I've explained several times why I think it's a better choice to go with a younger actor. Feel free to think differently, but that's how I feel about this subject, I want a teenager playing a teenager because it makes sense and it would be fresh, different of the two older actors playing high schoolers that we've got before. I just don't see anything on these actors older than 20 that justify them getting the role instead of actual teenagers, and the reports tell us that's how Marvel is thinking too.

 

[Jay Beezy]

I've explained several times why I think it's a better choice to go with a younger actor. Feel free to think differently, but that's how I feel about this subject, I want a teenager playing a teenager because it makes sense and it would be fresh, different of the two older actors playing high schoolers that we've got before. I just don't see anything on these actors older than 20 that justify them getting the role instead of actual teenagers, and the reports tell us that's how Marvel is thinking too.

Holding his own amongst the other Avenger actors which is something he *will* have to do.

 

[harryoscop]

I don't have a list, but from all the names that have turned here, Tim Chalamet and Asa Butterfield are the ones that I can SEE them delivering a great teenager Peter Parker.

And since I'm the resident theorist guy, I've been observing Chalamet's twitter and instagram and he has been PAINFULLY quiet, and I can't help but wonder WHY. harryscoop said the other day that's because he is starting college, but that's not true, he has already been in college since August, it's something else. He isn't very much active on Twitter, but he used to be VERY active on instagram until February at the Oscars. Then he was gone.

My new "theory" is that there's definitely something going on here. He's just TOO MUCH of a good candidate for not even been considered:

1. He has experience in big films with big actors in Interstellar, directed by Chris Nolan from all people;
2. He is 19 years old and seems to have some great comedy timing;
3. He is a NEW YORKER, from Hell's Kitchen, so he has the accent already nailed;
4. Since he had an instagram account, he never went so quiet.

Yes I've stalked his instagram and twitter, but there's something up with this dude. NOT SAYING that he is getting the role, but he IS one of the contenders for Peter Parker.

Check his twitter and instagram for yourselves:

https://***********/RealChalamet
https://instagram.com/liltimmytim/

This is a stage monologue of him, that's all I can find of him on youtuber, but he can be found on Interstellar as well:

[YT]cGh7BG242io[/YT]

I could be wrong, but I think he went quiet because he is one of Spidey's candidates. He might not get it, but yeah.

Who do you think are the candidates for the role?

 

[Dark Raven]

I made a promise two months ago that I wouldn't show my lists anymore.. but this will be the LAST time.

Current list:
1. Teo Halm/Dylan O'Brien
2. Charlie Rowe
3. Mateus Ward
4. Asa Buttermilk

That promise wasn't 2 months ago. 2 months ago was when the Marvel /Sony deal was announced. .. barely.

 

[Talion]

Who do you think are the candidates for the role?

I don't know. I actually personally think that Mateus Ward never auditioned for the role, and I think that Devin Faraci has been mislead, nobody else confirmed what he said and that talk kind of disappeared. Mateus Ward made a photoshop montage of him and his mate as both Peter and Miles, so he obviously fancies the role, but I don't think he has auditioned for the part.

I'm not looking into more people than either Asa or Chalamet, but the thing is... Asa is working in a Burton movie right now, and seems ratherly outspoken right now, while Chalamet went mute after the last half of February. I don't know where you live, but college generally starts in August in the US, I believe he already was in college back in August, and he never stopped actually posting instagram pics that I can notice. Why he went quiet after the Peter Parker's role was open? I don't know, but he is just TOO MUCH of a fit for not been considered. Him been quiet leads me believe that he has probably has auditioned for the part, but we probably will never get confirmation for that unless if he gets the role.

Tricky, I know, but from all the candidates that we have so far, I feel like him and maybe Asa are the only ones that have actually auditioned.

 

[NotSoLongAgo]

I don't know. I actually personally think that Mateus Ward never auditioned for the role, and I think that Devin Faraci has been mislead, nobody else confirmed what he said and that talk kind of disappeared. Mateus Ward made a photoshop montage of him and his mate as both Peter and Miles, so he obviously fancies the role, but I don't think he has auditioned for the part.

I'm not looking into more people than either Asa or Chalamet, but the thing is... Asa is working in a Burton movie right now, and seems ratherly outspoken right now, while Chalamet went mute after the last half of February. I don't know where you live, but college generally starts in August in the US, I believe he already was in college back in August, and he never stopped actually posting instagram pics that I can notice. Why he went quiet after the Peter Parker's role was open? I don't know, but he is just TOO MUCH of a fit for not been considered. Him been quiet leads me believe that he has probably has auditioned for the part, but we probably will never get confirmation for that unless if he gets the role.

Tricky, I know, but from all the candidates that we have so far, I feel like him and maybe Asa are the only ones that have actually auditioned.

That radio silence is just a coincidence bro. For all we know he wasnt even considered

 

[dany]

I don't know. I actually personally think that Mateus Ward never auditioned for the role, and I think that Devin Faraci has been mislead, nobody else confirmed what he said and that talk kind of disappeared. Mateus Ward made a photoshop montage of him and his mate as both Peter and Miles, so he obviously fancies the role, but I don't think he has auditioned for the part.

I'm not looking into more people than either Asa or Chalamet, but the thing is... Asa is working in a Burton movie right now, and seems ratherly outspoken right now, while Chalamet went mute after the last half of February. I don't know where you live, but college generally starts in August in the US, I believe he already was in college back in August, and he never stopped actually posting instagram pics that I can notice. Why he went quiet after the Peter Parker's role was open? I don't know, but he is just TOO MUCH of a fit for not been considered. Him been quiet leads me believe that he has probably has auditioned for the part, but we probably will never get confirmation for that unless if he gets the role.

Tricky, I know, but from all the candidates that we have so far, I feel like him and maybe Asa are the only ones that have actually auditioned.

Just because the kid is quiet has he auditioned for the part? Doesn't make sense.

 

[Dark Raven]

Was Chalamet even considered at all or is he just wishful thinking on Talion's part? Any of those Disney actors I mentioned could be silent on Twitter right now. Doesn't suddenly mean they are being considered. They might not even be on the radar but just might have nothing to report so don't update anything.

 

[NotSoLongAgo]

Was Chalamet even considered at all or is he just wishful thinking on Talion's part? Any of those Disney actors I mentioned could be silent on Twitter right now. Doesn't suddenly mean they are being considered. They might not even be on the radar but just might have nothing to report so don't update anything.

Hes talions suggestion.

 

[Talion]

That radio silence is just a coincidence bro. For all we know he wasnt even considered

He just fits the bill too much, and that's what is bugging me. People would go "WHO?" but I can see it, and I don't know, I could be completely off, but if I had to say I have a "hunch" that someone has tried for the part, it's him, and I know that his name hasn't been mentioned anywhere but here or a few other people, but yeah, I just think it's weird that he went silence after the "search" for Peter Parker has started.

Meanwhile, Mateus Ward and Tyrel Jackson Williams latest instagram photo from 5 hours ago:

He's REALLY good with photoshop. I can give him that.

 

[harryoscop]

He just fits the bill too much, and that's what is bugging me. People would go "WHO?" but I can see it, and I don't know, I could be completely off, but if I had to say I have a "hunch" that someone has tried for the part, it's him, and I know that his name hasn't been mentioned anywhere but here or a few other people, but yeah, I just think it's weird that he went silence after the "search" for Peter Parker has started.

Meanwhile, Mateus Ward and Tyrel Jackson Williams latest instagram photo from 5 hours ago:

He's REALLY good with photoshop. I can give him that.

Damn.. I kinda wanted Mateus for the role..

 

[Talion]

Was Chalamet even considered at all or is he just wishful thinking on Talion's part? Any of those Disney actors I mentioned could be silent on Twitter right now. Doesn't suddenly mean they are being considered. They might not even be on the radar but just might have nothing to report so don't update anything.

I've seen his name popping around on twitter by some people saying he'd be a good fit for Spidey, then I've tracked down his twitter and I know that I could be completely off, but my "spider sense" is telling me that this dude is indeed at least auditioning for the part.

 

[NotSoLongAgo]

He just fits the bill too much, and that's what is bugging me. People would go "WHO?" but I can see it, and I don't know, I could be completely off, but if I had to say I have a "hunch" that someone has tried for the part, it's him, and I know that his name hasn't been mentioned anywhere but here or a few other people, but yeah, I just think it's weird that he went silence after the "search" for Peter Parker has started.

Meanwhile, Mateus Ward and Tyrel Jackson Williams latest instagram photo from 5 hours ago:

He's REALLY good with photoshop. I can give him that.

Hes aight, but his three minutes in interstellar and that youtube video dont change my mind but thats just me. College does last 2 semesters btw, and its ramping up now towards the end

 

[dany]

Better, my vote now is for Thomas Sangster for Peter. He's a adult, like everyone wants (and older than Dylan), but he still looks a teen. He doesn't age, no problem with sequels. Perfect.