The Not New Comics Thread!

BTW, I went to Barnes and Noble and picked up Gantz and Dead Note. The main recommendation, "Phoenix," wasn't available at that store. I started reading Gantz...so far, it's doing nothing for me. But, I haven't gotten to the action yet. I'll have to keep a look out for Phoenix.

Well, I hope Gantz doesn't end up sucking. If it does, I'm going to feel bad mentioning it and not actually reading it before hand :csad:

BTW, besides Manga books, how about the shows I always see in Best Buy? Anything that you guys would consider a must see?

Yeah, there are a few. The two I would recommend the most to start with are Trigun and Cowboy Bebop. Both of them tend to be more Western in style than most anime/manga. Though I would recommend the manga of Trigun over the show
 
I'm still reading Millenium, and was happy to find out that I have all the tie-ins for the comic. I did notice one thing that was kind of weird. This series came out in December of 87 and January of 88. What's odd is that the DC books at that time were all over the board in terms of price point. Millenium was 75 cents, and so were Superman and Batman. But, other titles, like Blue Beetle changed $1.00. Then, other titles, like Young All-Stars was $1.25...and, Legion Of Superheroes was $1.75.

So far, while the plot isn't exactly great, the tie-ins have been pretty nice. (Plus, amazing how DC then had a bunch of old Marvel writers.) With Millenium, we learn that Manhunters were used by the Guardians of the Universe before the Green Lantern Corps....but, the Manhunters eventually turned on the Guardians. Much time has passed, and the Guardians come to earth to find 10 humans to advance the human race. They first come to the heroes of Earth to enlist their aid in doing this, for there are human Manhunters among them whose job it is to stop them from achieving their goal. (The original Manhunters were androids...but, they are using humans associated with the superheroes to take them down. Originally, it's explained, that Harbringer mistakingly sent her information on Earth's heroes to the Manhunters, such as the human identies of such heroes, as Superman and Batman.)

What's neat is the main Millenium title will leave a cliffhanger that is resolved in a character's main title. For example, in Millenium #2, we see Jim Gordon shoot Batman...but, we don't find out what happens next, unless you pick up the issue of Batman that ties in with it.

I wasn't reading the DC titles at this time; but, I think I might have missed out on some decent reads. Byrne's Superman was pretty good. Same with Len Wein's Blue Beetle and Baron's Flash. Maybe the best was Perez's Wonder Woman...although, the tie-in with Millenium wasn't very significant, as Perez was in a Part 3 of a "Challenge Of The Gods" storyline. (It makes me want to check out Perez' run on that comic..it was that good of an issue.) Not so good was Outsiders, Justice League International and Firestorm.
 
Well, I hope Gantz doesn't end up sucking. If it does, I'm going to feel bad mentioning it and not actually reading it before hand :csad:



Yeah, there are a few. The two I would recommend the most to start with are Trigun and Cowboy Bebop. Both of them tend to be more Western in style than most anime/manga. Though I would recommend the manga of Trigun over the show

No reason to feel bad. It looks like what I was wanting...it just doesn't help that so far, the characters are all pretty unlikeable. (Since it's pretty graphic, I could peruse it at the store; they keep those shrink wrapped.) The Death Note looked pretty interesting when I was looking through it, though.

Oh, in case you didn't know, they made a live action Japanese film out of Battle Royale. You can get it through Netflix...at least I did quite a few years ago. The film was pretty decent!
 
I just read Light Brigade by Peter Tomasi and Peter Snejbjerg. It was awesome. Basically, it's a standard WWII story wherein a man loses his faith after receiving news that his wife is killed and his son has been placed in foster care... and then angels show up. It ties a lot of religious questions into the proceedings and stays very much a human tale of a man's relationship with his faith at the core of the story, but there's plenty of the action and gore you'd expect from a WWII story as well. Snejbjerg's art is really good as well. It reminded me of Cassaday's in some places, although not quite as detailed. I'd highly recommend giving it a read if you're at all into metaphysical magic, fictional takes on religion, or war stories. Really solid stuff.
 
I love Marvel Essentials because I can read all the older comics I want. I've read Tomb of Dracula's early issues and Silver Surfers early issues and I just started Moon Knight's first issues.
 
I'm nearly finished with 52 for the first time. This series is great! My brother-in-law gave me the run but forgot to get the last 2 issues or the WWIII tie-in, so I'm waiting to read those. Great stuff. The scientists are cracking me up, and I LOVE the Question/Montoya storyline.
 
I love Marvel Essentials because I can read all the older comics I want. I've read Tomb of Dracula's early issues and Silver Surfers early issues and I just started Moon Knight's first issues.
Although I prefer colored reprints, the marvel essentials are spectacular :up: I own about 12 of them and they're always a good read
 
Although I prefer colored reprints, the marvel essentials are spectacular :up: I own about 12 of them and they're always a good read
I also like the color reprints, but the Essential line is a fantastic way to get your hands on the old old stories.
 
My thoughts exactly. Any word in when essential spider-man 10 is gonna come out? Thats the one I've been lookin for
 
I just read the ION 12 issue mini from a couple years ago. It was nice but I feel like the story is incomplete. They said that there was someone behind the whole Kyle/Evil thing larger than Nero or whatever his name was but I don't think they ever got back around to talking about who it was. Not to mention the whole Moniter storyline was obviously part of a larger storyline that wasn't detailed there so it felt like I only got part of a story with no conclusion.

Anyone know what those were about?
 
Well, I know the Monitor storyline was just setup for Countdown, which ended up sucking anyway, so no worries.
 
Kyle's story as a whole goes from Ion to The Sinestro Corps War to Countdown to Green Lantern Corps. They are, in order: good, awful, meh, great.
 
I've read Sinestro Corps War on in the Green Lantern titles, I just missed everything from Infinite Crisis up until that point. And I'm doing the Green Lantern thing now, so Countdown is too minor of a connection to bother with.


ALSO:

I'm only 3 issues away from finishing rereading Supreme Power. I loved this the first time I read it and am now rereading it to see if it can stand alone or if I need the Hyperion mini. I was curious about the Squadron Supreme ongoing until I heard they never finished it so I don't want to even start. Anyhow, I loved it originally, but I am totally bored this time around. I feel that it drags on and on. I will say this though, for a Max book, they are very responsible with the content. Nudity only when necessary, sex only when necessary and not gratuitous at all, language isnt' over the top.

I'll have to finish it to trully look back on it in fullness, but I'm a little disappointed this round.
 
I'm just starting the Sub Diego stuff of the latest Aquaman series, #15 onwards. I've heard good things about it so I'm interested to see what it's like :up:
 
I just finished No Man's Land vol. 1-5 and now I'm reading Batman: Evolution, or New Gotham vol. 1. I went out and bought the rest of Detective Comics leading up to Bruce Wayne Murderer?, so I'm all set for the next big arc in Batman's mythos. :D
 
I've been doing some catch-up lately now that Holidays/College are done with for the time being.

JMS was great on Thor but the man straight out sucks on ANYTHING when he's in it for the long-haul, I'm glad his run is over. The Doom vs Thor/Asgardians confrontation has thus far been nothing short of amazing, though at this point and I hate to repeat what other posters have been harping on but STOP ****ING LISTENING TO LOKI.

Iron Man's been good but is noticeably slower, thought after World's Most Wanted that is to be expected I suppose.

I don't know if anyone else is reading Farscape but wow, I certainly didn't expect that person to still be alive. Wish the book had better art though.
 
I recently got Queen & Country: The Definitive Collection vol. 1. It's a thick mofo with issues #1-12 in it. I'm about two-thirds done with it, and I've gotta say it's pretty good. Some nice spy fiction in comic form.
 
I don't know if anyone else is reading Farscape but wow, I certainly didn't expect that person to still be alive. Wish the book had better art though.
I'm reading it but I don't remember whom you're talking about.

I read Fun Home by Allison Bechdel yesterday. Really fantastic graphic novel. It's primarily an autobiography about Bechdel's coming of age and her complex relationship with her father.
 
You don't really have to. It's just D'argo's backstory from leaving the Luxan army to his imprisonment on Moya, pretty much. The show's told you everything you need to know, but if you want to read it firsthand, now you can. They're not bad comics at all, though.
 
Bringing back JH's thread!!!

Ok, so I thought I'd read those important moments in a particular character's or team's history. And, I'm starting with The Fantastic Four. Naturally, that leads to issue #1. Let's see how it holds up with time.

First page sets the tone, which is how hokey these old tales seem. Mr. Fantastic shoots off a flare gun over Manhattan...and, somehow the capsule can show the three famous words, "The Fantastic Four," in bright red, alerting those members that some danger has made itself known, and they must finally reveal themselves to us, the reader. Mr.Fantastic comes across as a real tool, who (besides Thing) must save the day numerous times from his confused fiance and dimwitted brother-in-law. He sure seems old, and I also wonder what ever happened to that pipe he used to smoke.

Invisible Girl's reveal on the next page is pretty hysterical. She turns invisible and barges past various people who cannot see her, but only hear her voice. Except for being invisible, what purpose (besides showing the reader her power) does being invisible gain her? Even when she calls a cab and rides along without him knowing, she pays the driver. And, she even marvels at how her powers work...like she didn't know before, when we get a flashback of the first time later in this story. Poor Sue, she's relegated to just fleeing a bunch of the time. Her powers are kind of useless in this issue. You can almost read a big old "DUH" above her head.

The Thing's reveal is much more believable...but, Johnny is a real tool for destroying the car that he's been rebuilding with his pal by flaming-on inside the vehicle. Really? He couldn't step out and wait two seconds??? Oh, and the Air Force response is amazing! Within seconds, three fighter jets are trying to take him down. President Bush would have loved that response time over Manhattan during 9/11!

One of the most interesting things about old literature and comics is their notions of what space travel would be like before we knew what we know now...or even before 1967. I love the idea of Cosmic Rays all around the Earth, which caused the F4 to get their powers. Plus, it's equally amazing that the spacecraft could land on it's own with an autopilot program.

I find the beauty of this first issue is the way Stan Lee bridged the past of Timely Comics with the new direction Marvel would go in. Before, it was a lot of monster stories...and, combined with Stan Lee's answer to DC's powerful superheroes, he bridges both worlds in one book. The Mole Man and his group of monsters was a great first issue villian. (Too bad that no matter how many writers try to make old Moley a relevant villian today, it never really works.)

The Mole Man's story is kind of sad...and, even Reed treats him like an outcast in the end, proclaiming "He's sealed himself below -- forever! It's best that way! There is no place for him in our world." The whole reason Mole Man felt at home amongst these monsters was the because of how others made him feel.

This only leaves me with one big question that's perplexed me all my life. How in the heck deep below ground does all of those diamonds make it so blinding, that you have to wear special glasses just to see?

Yeah, these early issues are laughable; but, also very important to the characters we know and love. New writers try to explain certain points, like the "cosmic rays," to new readers, trying to make it much more believable. All I know is that if comics still read like this today, I would find it very easy to give up my favorite hobby. Some things have to grow and evolve. Thank God comics have.
 
And to contribute.... I finally got caught up with Daredevil. As I stated earlier in the thread, I read Bendis's run a while ago but reread it and it was phenominal and left me wanting more. Finally, after a good year or so of procrastinating, I bought a chunk of them and downloaded what I coudln't find until I can find them and read them straight through. I gotta say... still phenominal. I wasn't expecting much on Brubaker's run since he's typically hit or miss for me, but I thought his run was great. I loved every issue equally as much as I loved the Bendis issues. Diggle's stuff been good as well, though maybe just a hair less than Bendis or Brubaker's, but it's also early in his run so we'll see what comes of it. I know I'm seriously excited for Shadowland and I feel that'll be what defines his run, for good or for bad.

Bendis's run started at issue 26. The title ran to issue 119, then kicked it up to 500 and the newest issue is 506. Doing the math that's exactly 100 issues of Daredevil (and an annual). The only other book that kept my interest solidly for 100 issues are the X-Men books. Spider-Man lost my interest initially after around 70 issues... I think that's the next longest in line.

So officially, I feel that, to me, Daredevil is the second best ongoing series in my reading history. And it makes me want to go back and look into stuff prior to this run of Daredevil. I've read or skimmed all the rest of this run, but the stuff prior to the Marvel Knights relaunch. I may have to go back and see what I can find.

So yeah.. Daredevil... two :up: :up: up!
 

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