Comics The OFFICAL: Xavier/mutant protocols thread

[ProfeZZor X]

Knowing what your favorite character is capable of now, and knowing how powerful they are, what would it take to kill your favorite mutant?

Mine being Iceman (as expected), and knowing that evaporating him wouldn't be effective, shutting down his mind would be the only way I could think of to kill him. My second being Colossus, has already been done, with the Legacy virus he took, and being drenched in volital acid.

Who's your favorites, and how could they be killed?

(And forget about posting how they can come back to life, just post how they can die.)

 

[Harlekin]

Decapitation will certainly work for the most of them.

 

[RSS]

I agree with Harlekin...

Even people like Iceman, who can regrow limbs, have psionic control over their powers - which means their head is the key to their control. Chopping the head off she probably kill them.

Right? =\

 

[D-scythe]

Unless you're Logan. Then the body would grow a new head and the head would grow a new body, and you'd get two Logans and then it would all get very messy.

 

[Harlekin]

I agree with Harlekin...

Even people like Iceman, who can regrow limbs, have psionic control over their powers - which means their head is the key to their control. Chopping the head off she probably kill them.

Right? =\

Nah, Iceman has been decapitated before. Were in his human form though...

 

[Optic Rage]

Well this is a tad pointless.....and no logan cant grow his head back.

Guns would kill most..as would lots of stuf.

The omegas are the only ones who are difficult to kill..and Deadpool.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

Iceman has always been vulnerable to heat.

 

[RSS]

D-scythe, you're wrong.

The only time the protocls were revealed, Jean read what Xavier had to say on Logan, and according to him the only way to kill Logan is to cut off his head so his healing factor won't be able to work.

And if Iceman can survive without a head, what's controling his powers and allowing him to regrow the head?

 

[ProfeZZor X]

D-scythe, you're wrong.

The only time the protocls were revealed, Jean read what Xavier had to say on Logan, and according to him the only way to kill Logan is to cut off his head so his healing factor won't be able to work.

And if Iceman can survive without a head, what's controling his powers and allowing him to regrow the head?

A step further on Iceman, his entire body has been vaporized, and he still survived enough to refreeze himself into a solid again. But getting back to him being a head, he still has control over his powers. After all, he had enough control to dehydrate one of Azayal's (Nightcrawler's father) demons, and reform his body out of that, now purified, water. He also took a hail of bullets in the back when the team went to rescue Xorn in China, but it didn't phase him. Overall, my guess is that he exists as a conciousness within any body of moisture. Which may explain why he can survive in any vapour, liquid or frozen water.

As for Logan, I was also under the impression that even with his head being decapitated, he could still regenerate a body. The only difference in killing him for good (based on my understanding), is to decapitate him, and place both lobes of his brain on oposite sides of the earth.

 

[Manic]

And if Iceman can survive without a head, what's controling his powers and allowing him to regrow the head?

When Iceman is in his ice form, his head doesn't even have a brain. His body just remains in human shape because that's how he sees himself. His body has been shattered beyond recognition several times, and his disembodied mind has rebuilt his body everytime. Even his head gets shattered.

Chopping off Iceman's head in his fleshy form would kill him. Nothing you physically do to him in his icey form will hurt for very long-- he always repairs himself with ambient air moisture.

I have a feeling that if you were to melt Iceman with intense heat, his molecules would just rise into the air (high above the source of the heat), can come back down once they've had a chance to cool off and re-compress into ice. I have a feeling that the only thing that can kill Iceman is a psionic attack.

 

[Harlekin]

Guys, I doubt D-Scythe was actually serious...

 

[RSS]

A step further on Iceman, his entire body has been vaporized, and he still survived enough to refreeze himself into a solid again. But getting back to him being a head, he still has control over his powers. After all, he had enough control to dehydrate one of Azayal's (Nightcrawler's father) demons, and reform his body out of that, now purified, water. He also took a hail of bullets in the back when the team went to rescue Xorn in China, but it didn't phase him. Overall, my guess is that he exists as a conciousness within any body of moisture. Which may explain why he can survive in any vapour, liquid or frozen water.

As for Logan, I was also under the impression that even with his head being decapitated, he could still regenerate a body. The only difference in killing him for good (based on my understanding), is to decapitate him, and place both lobes of his brain on oposite sides of the earth.

As far as I understood it, his head is to be chopped off and placed away from his body(not that far away hehe), for his healing factor to drop.

And I see what both you and Manic are saying, but I can't seem to get it. If he has no body parts, then what's keeping him alive? What's commanding his powers? How is he perceiving the world?

Manic, you mentioned a psionic attack killing him. He has no head, no brain, how would a psionic attack effect him? Or, what would the psionic attack target?

 

[javon]

Originally posted by profezzor X
Knowing what your favorite character is capable of now, and knowing how powerful they are, what would it take to kill your favorite mutant?

Weren't you the one who was complaining about those "VERSUS" threads?
Yet you didn't hesitate to make one. Just curious.

D-scythe, you're wrong.

The only time the protocls were revealed, Jean read what Xavier had to say on Logan, and according to him the only way to kill Logan is to cut off his head so his healing factor won't be able to work.

And if Iceman can survive without a head, what's controling his powers and allowing him to regrow the head?

Couldn't Storm (to Logan) just heat his metal up inside his body, then cool it? Or she could trigger the air pressure inside his body and raise it? Or she could just suffocate him?

 

[Manic]

My theory:

When Iceman goes into his ice form, only his mental/psionic energy resides within his icey body. His physical brain is technically gone, but his mind remains. Otherwise, how else would he think?

And really, think about it. Iceman has been shattered. He has taken his icey form, and it has been shattered & vaporized. And each time this happens, he finds some nearby air moisture to rebuild himself. It's happened before. We're not making this up. If vaporizing the man doesn't kill him, why would chopping off his head?

 

[javon]

Well the only way to kill him, in your case Manic, is to his mind.

 

[Manic]

Well the only way to kill him, in your case Manic, is to his mind.

Exactly.

 

[javon]

So he's most vulnerable to psionic attacks only? Or what if Storm melted him then electrocuted him? Electricity+water=Bzzzzzzzzzk!

 

[ProfeZZor X]

Weren't you the one who was complaining about those "VERSUS" threads?
Yet you didn't hesitate to make one. Just curious.

Actually, someone made an incorrect assumption about Iceman, so I make a correction. But if you consider it a debate, so be it... Besides, you know me, I jump on any topic relating to Iceman.

 

[javon]

^LOL, thats true!

 

[RSS]

My theory:

When Iceman goes into his ice form, only his mental/psionic energy resides within his icey body. His physical brain is technically gone, but his mind remains. Otherwise, how else would he think?

And really, think about it. Iceman has been shattered. He has taken his icey form, and it has been shattered & vaporized. And each time this happens, he finds some nearby air moisture to rebuild himself. It's happened before. We're not making this up. If vaporizing the man doesn't kill him, why would chopping off his head?

You see, but that's where things don't work out for me. The way I saw it(and I may be wrong here), when a telepath attacks someone he attacks the brain thus affecting the mind; hence, the brain would be the medium of his attack.

So, if Iceman won't have a brain in his ice form, how would a telepath attack him? If he has no brain then what's controlling his body?

Sorry if I'm giving y'all a headache

 

[javon]

You ain't giving me nothin' because i'd like 2 know myself.

 

[ProfeZZor X]

So Javon, how hard would it be to Kill Storm? Is she harder to kill than Iceman?

 

[masterj]

My favorite charcters are Moonstar, Emma and Dust. Killing them would unbearble and evil, so I'll do it anyway.

Moonstar: Depowered. Just shoot her.
Emma: Kill her in human form or smask her diamond body up.
Dust: Kill her in human form too but if we're being creative I would blast her at high heat turning her sand form into glass. Then just smash her.

I'm so deliciously evil.

 

[javon]

So Javon, how hard would it be to Kill Storm? Is she harder to kill than Iceman?

If you feel affended by me stating how Storm can beat Iceman please let me know. Anyway, for Storm it's hard to tell seeing as how she can actualy turn into her weather element. And I have also seen her elemental form. So while she IS actually lightning, how could a telepath reach her? Or lets say fog? Now i'm not saying nobody can beat her...keep that in mind before someone has a heart attack.

Originally posted by masterji
Emma: Kill her in human form or smask her diamond body up.
Dust: Kill her in human form too but if we're being creative I would blast her at high heat turning her sand form into glass. Then just smash her.

For Emma, Storm has done that without powers.
For Dust, if you what you said is true, then Storm could do just that.

 

[masterj]

Easy to kill Storm, shove a bomb down her trapper.