The Official '52' Thread

No, some being empowered by magic gods who transcend our entire dimension, let alone our world, did. What's the difference? Both wars spread to include the entire world, so they're both world wars. No reason to get up-in-arms about it.
 
But the JLA story sounds more like an attempt to invade and destroy everything. I did not read it, but it sounds more like it was the whole world together (minus the villains of course) against the invading "Old Gods weapon". This conflict is from 2 different parts of the world, so it is within the world already, and the conflict gets so out of whack it involves everyone else like the first two World Wars.

Basically, from what I've heard and read, the JLA story is more like an outside force against the whole world that is Earth. The 52 story is the world against eachother like the first two World Wars. That's why, to me, it makes more sense to call this event World War III and not the JLA event.
 
The main reason, in my mind, that the prior WW3 wasn't truly a WW3 is because of the mind-control. I mean, it wasn't an actual dispute between anyone, it was just...mind-control. After the fact, everything just went back to normal with and everything's groovy because, well, it was all due to a big evil machine mind-controlling everything.

In this, nations are truly warring with each other because they're genuinely ticked off, forming and drawing on alliances and enmities. It just seems more...fitting.
trustyside-kick said:
Bleh. I know he's been featured in this series several times, but it still bothers me that GA is there. He is supposed to be on that island. This completely messes up continuity cause of what's happening during this OYL gap in his own title.
Actually...by this point it would make sense that GA is back. He didn't stay on the island for the whole year, and the year is almost over.
 
Surprised I'm the first to post in a while here. Enjoyed Week 50 very much and I loved World War III. Although, they could've shown more things going on with some characters. They didn't give Aquaman, Jason Todd, and Cassandra Cain enough panels if you ask me. They should've gone more in depth since their changes in OYL were the most shocking and unexpected.
 
Yeah, it was a shame that the coolest Jason Todd panel was on the cover.
 
Dido already said the JLA ww III didn't happen, they prevented the actual "world war". BUt I never read it so I don't know.
 
Wow...Black Adam is awesome.

-ripped Father Time's face off
-punched Robotman's face off
-ripped Young Frankenstein's arms off
-punched a hole through Terra

Darth, you've got a lot of choices for an avatar. :D
 
http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=109688
5.2 OR SO ABOUT 52 #50 WITH MICHAEL SIGLAIN
So – what happened this week in DC’s 52?

World War III – that is, Black Adam taking out countries and people who annoyed him. Which, at this time included the JSA.

But the big thing – the JSA staring down the Great Ten at the Chinese border while Black Adam tore other members of the Great Ten new ones in Beijing. The scene where the Great Ten finally concede, and request help…nice one.

What happens next – not so nice. Ugly, brutal battle. And in the end – Black Adam is just Adam.

Time for some questions for Editor Michael Siglain.

Newsarama: We join up with the action on Day 2 of Week 50. Given that the last time we saw Adam was Day 1 of Week 49, what's he been up to? Who's he been attacking, and why?

Michael Siglain: After having been released from Dr. Sivana’s torture chamber on Oolong Island, Black Adam has set out to avenge the death of his wife and brother-in-law. He’s going after everyone who was involved in their murders, and as we’ve seen, he won’t stop until everyone has paid the ultimate price for their deaths.

NRAMA: And Days 3-5...what's caused the battles at those locations?

MS: Black Adam is the most wanted man in the world right now, and he’s got almost everyone on the planet looking for him. The JSA, the Doom Patrol, the Teen Titans, Checkmate, everyone. Some of those teams had luck finding him along the way, and tried to stop him, which is why battles broke out in Sydney and Pisa.

NRAMA: If he knew China was responsible, as Thundermind points out, why didn't he just come right over to the mainland from Oolong?

MS: Black Adam’s plan was always to go straight to China. Unfortunately for him—and the rest of the world—he was stopped along the way, and battles ensued.

NRAMA: Fundamentally, what we're seeing in this issue - Black Adam is taking his place as the strongest badass in the DCU, correct? Was that one of the overall goals of 52?

MS: The writers always wanted to build up Black Adam, though I don’t think they envisioned just how much of threat and total badass he would become. He’s now one of the most powerful and dangerous men in the entire DC Universe.

And if you think that the fact that he lost the magic word and his powers makes him weak, then you are sorely mistaken. Writer Peter Tomasi and artist Doug Mahnke are hard at work on a Black Adam mini-series that picks up immediately following the events of 52 week 52, and Teth-Adam is more lethal and terrifying than ever.

NRAMA: Albert in all of this - not wanting to believe, or simply not knowing enough to believe the worst about Black Adam?

MS: Albert doesn’t want to believe that his friend could cause all of this death and destruction, which is why Albert saves him in week 49, and why he saves him again in week 50. Albert will eventually come to terms with everything that has happened, it might just take him a little longer.

NRAMA: And just so this one is out there, and clear - the Egyptian gods are okay with Adam killing millions+ people?

MS: Well, despite petitions from Captain Marvel, the Egyptian Gods wouldn’t take away Black Adam’s powers...

NRAMA: Obviously, it's easy to armchair quarterback this fight, but...Adam was killing people on the ground, and the casualty and damage rate was staggering. Why not haul his butt into space from the start?

MS: That would’ve been ideal, if the heroes worked together enough to formulate a plan that would’ve launched him into space. Instead, chaos reigned supreme and the fight was more a free-for-all...at least until Captain Marvel and the mystics got involved.

NRAMA: On that line - your version - what did Captain Marvel do?

MS: To put it simply: Captain Marvel de-powered Black Adam. With the help of the mystics, Captain Marvel was able to call down the lightning and catch it! Insulated by the spell (also from the mystics), Captain Marvel was able to hold the lightning until Black Adam was in place. Then, like Zeus, Captain Marvel threw the bolt at Black Adam and changed the magic word, thereby de-powering Black Adam once and for all. The writers came up with that little bit during one of our weekly conference calls, and it was pure genius. Hats off to Geoff, Grant, Greg, and Mark. Nice work, gentlemen!

NRAMA: But yeah - Gail Simone introduced a character who had forgotten his magic word in Welcome to Tranquility - was she involved with this one as well, or just a coincidence?

MS: Sheer luck!

NRAMA: Hey, hey! A Booster sighting! How long for him has it been since we saw him last, and seeing him here? Where's he showing up next?

MS: Booster Gold and Rip Hunter were last seen way back in week 37, when they were fighting with Skeets in the Fortress of Solitude. Booster and Rip blinked out of time, and week 50 is the first time we’ve seen him since then. Booster popped up during the battle with Black Adam, and both Booster and Rip appeared to Professor Morrow at the end of the issue. I’d say it’s even money that they show up next week, too.

NRAMA: In terms of major spoilers, Captain Marvel's "cure" for Black Adam - he killed millions, yet he's left free to walk around and one day figure out his magic word again. Is Cap's Wisdom of Solomon on the fritz?

MS: Captain Marvel’s wisdom is still right on the mark. He didn’t leave Black Adam free to roam the earth, instead he figured out how to stop Black Adam and turn him mortal. However, during the explosion that took away his powers, Black Adam disappeared, and that was beyond even Captain Marvel’s control. And so the hunt for Black Adam continues...

NRAMA: Seriously, though - even though Albert got him free and into the Middle East in less than a day...what does that "solution" say about justice in the DCU?

MS: Albert’s friend was captured and being tortured, so he came to the rescue and saved him. For Albert, the situation is that black and white. It’s not about justice in the entire DC Universe, it’s about one man saving his friend. Now, as we all know, that “friend” turned out to be a homicidal mass murderer, but Albert is not acting on behalf of the DC Universe when he sets Black Adam free—he’s saving his friend.

NRAMA: Is Adam's story over for 52, or is there more to come?

MS: I’m sure we’ll see him again. After all, the series ain’t over yet!

NRAMA: Fair enough. Moving on to the latter scenes…what did Morrow see?

MS: His eyes have seen the glory of the...well, you’ll have to wait until next week to see what he’s seen.

NRAMA: And then, we’re outta stuff to talk about - over to you fro the tease

MS: Fifty issues down and just two more to go! The countdown (heh) is on, and even shows up on next week’s cover by J.G. and Alex. Take a look:

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World War III is over and next week we get guest appearances by the big three! We’ve spent a year without Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman, and now Clark Kent, Bruce Wayne, and Diana Prince are stopping by to check out the state of the DC Universe. Plus, we’ll get appearances by Robin, Jimmy Olsen, Wonder Girl, the JSA, and most of our 52 regulars. Why all the guest-stars and the usual 52 crew? Well, the issue is entitled “Homecoming,” so that should give you some idea. But don’t take my word for it, check out the first three pages:
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And as if that wasn’t enough, let me leave you with this little ditty: “Here he comes. This is exactly how they said it would happen...and it all comes down to me...” I wouldn’t want to be in that guy’s shoes. Though it could be worse -- he could be the one who gets to utter this soon-to-be-famous phrase: “Pray for the sake of the 52, we don’t screw up this time!”

All right, gang. That’s it for me. Thanks for all of the well-wishes last week, and to those of you wondering, yes, the wedding was on Friday the 13th. Ch-ch-ch-ah-ah-ah!
Huh. Well it looks all nice and awwtastic, but is it really what is seems? After all, JLA OYL revealed that Buddy wasn't "available."
 
Everyman got a sample of Ted Kord OYL from some JLA files or something, I think. It's not inconceivable that he could mimic Animal Man.

What is inconceivable would be for him to the whole flying and glowing thing...I don't think Everyman imitates powers, does he?
 
Week 50 was definitely a MUCH better week. Lots of ultra violence and intrigue. It might have to do with the fact that there was no Montoya...that usually helps. I wonder what Morrow saw in Red Tornado's data, hopefully that will get dealt with this coming week.

And, man, that preview for Week 51 looks to be pretty awesome. But, man, they really had Buddy's wifes nipples BEAMING. She was REALLY happy to see Buddy. Damn.
 
So, remember the chalkboard with the prophecies... what ever happened to that?
 
It got sucked into a time bubble along with Booster's ancestor.
 
We still don't know what "52" means, so that's one major prophecy left up in the air. Personally, I'm leaning towards 52 being the solution to the Anti-Life Equation or something crazy like that.

Anyway, am I the only one who thought WWIII was just awful? Week 50 was okay, but the tie-ins were so obviously the result of the 52 staff looking at the week number on the issue, realizing the series hadn't lived up to its intended purpose of bridging the gap between IC and OYL, belting out a hearty "****ing ****, we're screwed!" and slapping together some quick explanations for why certain characters wound up the way they appeared in OYL. And, really, those explanations just sucked.

Martian Manhunter's was the best of the bunch, I guess--he was exposed to the absolute worst of humanity in Black Adam, so he loses some faith, gets a little angsty, and darkens his image a bit. I still don't get the whole "I'm no longer denying who I am" thing, given that his new, Martian-for-all-the-world-to-see look consists solely of a pointy skull. It's not his natural Martian form--that's all gangly and skinny, with more pronounced facial features in addition to the pointy head. So, basically, Black Adam's ****ed up mind made J'onn turn into... a Conehead? Uh, okay.

Next we have Jason Todd. Oh wait, no we don't because Jason just shows up, already decked out in Nightwing regalia and killing people in New York. Way to show us what we already knew. Again.

Then, the crappy Bat-family procession continues to Batgirl, who, for starters, is Batgirl again. Why, exactly? What happened to the ending of her series, where she sets off to be her own woman? And as if the costume weren't enough to scream "character regression," in comes Deathstroke, who appears to very easily sway Batgirl by playing on her daddy issues over Bruce never trusting her to carry on the Bat legacy. Which is ******ed because 1) Bruce did trust her to carry on the Bat legacy but she, y'know, disappeared to go die and break Lady Shiva's neck and all, forcing Bruce to turn to Harvey in the short time between then and when he left on his sabbatical, and 2) she got over that legacy **** in the last issue of her series! Are Leaguer and I the only ****ing people who read that series finale and understood its implications? Goddamnit!

Still, all of those pale in comparison to Aquaman's explanation. Busiek builds up this great, grand purpose for Orin's newfound mystic status as the Dweller and now we find that he was changed for no bloody reason whatsoever. He went to some gods for help, they very abritrarily mutate him into a squidlike freak, and then he apparently sat on his ass and did nothing for the next few weeks until Arthur showed up. What the hell is that? There's gotta be more to the story than that. I get that the mystery is part of the character, but for Christ's sake, I've been waiting patiently for 11 issues of his series and the entire run of 52 and this is what I get? Not to mention the fact that the Dweller just ****ing died in the last issue of Aquaman. If somebody doesn't start making with some real goddamn answers soon, I'm just dropping the whole thing and moving on. This is ridiculous now.
 
We still don't know what "52" means, so that's one major prophecy left up in the air. Personally, I'm leaning towards 52 being the solution to the Anti-Life Equation or something crazy like that.

Anyway, am I the only one who thought WWIII was just awful?

yeah, I believe you're the only one. When a guy gets his face ripped off, that kinda automatically makes it awesome.
 
yeah, I believe you're the only one. When a guy gets his face ripped off, that kinda automatically makes it awesome.
Apparently the Newsarama reviewers agreed with me. They pretty much call the tie-ins on being the transparent ploy that they were but still enjoyed 52 #50. It's nice to at least know I'm not the only one who felt that way.
 
Wouldn't it be funny if it were just "Mazahs" or "Not Shazam" or something? I wonder how long it'll be before Teth-Adam figures it out, which he clearly will. The story potential is too great to not exploit someday.
 
maybe it's shazam with two z's. Or something very childish and immature, like Underwear
 

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