The Official '52' Thread

[The Leaguer]

I just wish the 52 issue had mentioned Martian Manhunter. After hearing WWIII was mainly about Manhunter, I was excited, but it ended up being a prequel to his emo series and that hurt me.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

It's sad that he's so misused. I hope whoever writes JLA after Meltzer leaves isn't such a prostitute for the Silver Age and restores J'onn to his rightful place among their number. It would instantly make JLA at least 20 times more interesting.

Also, I just realized that the Manhunter's entire WWIII character arc was done on Justice League Unlimited. He became disheartened with humanity, took a leave of absence from the world at large, and went all emo in private to work out his issues. The only difference is that in the JLU version, he actually, like, worked out his issues. Here he grows disheartened with humanity, comes back for one fight, then leaves and grows disheartened with humanity again for his mini-series in a vicious cycle that leaves him wavering between really emo and just kinda emo.

 

[The Leaguer]

He worked out his issues, remember? He decided he belonged side-by-side with the other heroes. Yet, for some reason, we got that s***ty mini-series.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

I just wish the 52 issue had mentioned Martian Manhunter. After hearing WWIII was mainly about Manhunter, I was excited, but it ended up being a prequel to his emo series and that hurt me.

Ahh, I didn't even catch that

 

[TheCorpulent1]

He worked out his issues, remember? He decided he belonged side-by-side with the other heroes. Yet, for some reason, we got that s***ty mini-series.

Right, he worked them out for that one fight and then somehow unworked them... in?... for the emo-mini. It was ******ed.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

General question about 52 I should have asked a while back: What exactly is up with The Big Three this whole time?

Bruce is in caves battling his demons or some crap I don't care about b/c I hate Batman

Diana is zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

What exactly is Clark up to. Since the Supernova stuff, he's been MIA right? Does he still have his powers or not? Cuz he would have been a huge help against Black Adam

 

[The Leaguer]

I can't tell you how badly I wanted Manhunter to ruin Adam's s***. F*** that crossover.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

I can't tell you how badly I wanted Manhunter to ruin Adam's s***. F*** that crossover.

Agreed. I was wishing for a phase through the heart or something more awesome than emo-pondering in space.

 

[Kitsune]

I agree with Corp... 52 has been good at times, but it has been disapointing as well. I don't think I'm going to be following the whole Countdown thing.

As for Black Adam's magic word, it should be something he will never say... so I'm guess it's "I'm sorry"

 

[The Leaguer]

All they had to do was say Ion would be a main character in Countdown and I was guaranteed to get it.

 

[BrianWilly]

General question about 52 I should have asked a while back: What exactly is up with The Big Three this whole time?

Bruce is in caves battling his demons or some crap I don't care about b/c I hate Batman

Diana is zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

What exactly is Clark up to. Since the Supernova stuff, he's been MIA right? Does he still have his powers or not? Cuz he would have been a huge help against Black Adam

Have you been reading the series?

Bruce was last seen conquering his demons in Nanda Parbat.

Diana also went to Nanda Parbat, looking for answers. She met Tim Drake there and the two of them were there when Bruce came out of his cave.

Clark was last seen busting Lex Luthor, who had sent Everyman in his place to prison or something.

All three of them are set to appear this week.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

All they had to do was say Ion would be a main character in Countdown and I was guaranteed to get it.

Kyle is on that preview image for Countdown with Donna, so I imagine he'll play some role. I'm getting Countdown solely for the Atom. I'm almost 100% certain they're just going to bring him back to off him for good and let the newbie Atom have the title, since that seems to be DC's groundbreaking story idea for every beloved B-lister right now, but I still want to see some Ray Palmer action after so long. The New Gods and Jimmy Olsen things have me intrigued as well.

Agreed. I was wishing for a phase through the heart or something more awesome than emo-pondering in space.

Yeah. J'onn was *****-slapped even worse regarding his powers than his characterization in WWIII. He's so much more powerful than what we saw in that ****. I flipped back and forth over the pages where Adam overloads J'onn's telepathy a few times to make sure I didn't miss anything because that was a ****ing pitiful showing for J'onn. Suddenly Black Adam can overload one of the most powerful telepaths in the solar system because he's angry? Seriously? Everyone who wrote WWIII must be the biggest Hulk fanboys ever.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Have you been reading the series?

Bruce was last seen conquering his demons in Nanda Parbat.

Diana also went to Nanda Parbat, looking for answers. She met Tim Drake there and the two of them were there when Bruce came out of his cave.

Clark was last seen busting Lex Luthor, who had sent Everyman in his place to prison or something.

All three of them are set to appear this week.

Yeah, just wan't sure if I was missing something. I wasn't sure who that was with Tim in NP, thanks. As for Bruce, are we to assume that he was just chillin at his house during WW3?

 

[yenaled]

He's in Nanda Parbat.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah. J'onn was *****-slapped even worse regarding his powers than his characterization in WWIII. He's so much more powerful than what we saw in that ****. I flipped back and forth over the pages where Adam overloads J'onn's telepathy a few times to make sure I didn't miss anything because that was a ****ing pitiful showing for J'onn. Suddenly Black Adam can overload one of the most powerful telepaths in the solar system because he's angry? Seriously? Everyone who wrote WWIII must be the biggest Hulk fanboys ever.

As if face ripping, arm shredding, gut punching, and neck cracking weren't enough; they had to have him pwn J'onn in the most ass way possible. :

 

[trustyside-kick]

Yeah. J'onn was *****-slapped even worse regarding his powers than his characterization in WWIII. He's so much more powerful than what we saw in that ****. I flipped back and forth over the pages where Adam overloads J'onn's telepathy a few times to make sure I didn't miss anything because that was a ****ing pitiful showing for J'onn. Suddenly Black Adam can overload one of the most powerful telepaths in the solar system because he's angry? Seriously? Everyone who wrote WWIII must be the biggest Hulk fanboys ever.

Only logical explanation I can think of is Black Adam's gods. Captain Marvel mentions consulting with them, asking them to remove BA's powers, and they only laughed at him. They basically supported BA so I'm guessing that came with a major power boost.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

He's in Nanda Parbat.

Ok cool. Guess I tend to zone out whenever I see the words "Nanda Parbat" after all that Montoya stu...zzzzzzzzzzzzz.

 

[Darthphere]

Martian Manhunter is so ****ing emo.

 

[trustyside-kick]

Anyway, am I the only one who thought WWIII was just awful? Week 50 was okay, but the tie-ins were so obviously the result of the 52 staff looking at the week number on the issue, realizing the series hadn't lived up to its intended purpose of bridging the gap between IC and OYL, belting out a hearty "****ing **** , we're screwed!" and slapping together some quick explanations for why certain characters wound up the way they appeared in OYL. And, really, those explanations just sucked.

Yea...while I've enjoyed 52 after reading this I've just realized they basically failed at what the point of this series was: to explain what happens over the OYL gap. They did that, obviously, but they barely explained the actual OYL changes. WWIII was their attempt to fix that, and while I enjoyed it, I still felt they didn't do enough to explain each big change to the characters.

There should have been issues that included Aquaman, Jason Todd, Cassandra Cain, Martian Manhunter, Donna Troy...etc...any character that had those major changes when OYL came around. Don't get me wrong, I liked the Black Adam arcs and the other stuff...but those characters (minus the Metal Men) haven't made OYL appearances so it is kinda dumb. That doesn't explain the OYL changes at all except for the attempt with WWIII which wasn't enough.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Only logical explanation I can think of is Black Adam's gods. Captain Marvel mentions consulting with them, asking them to remove BA's powers, and they only laughed at him. They basically supported BA so I'm guessing that came with a major power boost.

I don't think that's how the Marvels' power works. Plus, Michael Siglain said something about how there were stronger characters than Black Adam opposing him, but it was just Black Adam's overwhelming rage and lack of restraint that really made things hard for the heroes, not any extra power. But even if the Egyptian gods did increase Black Adam's power levels, those powers have never included telepathy. All he would've been is a fairly strong-willed individual raging against an uber-powerful telepath. The way J'onn got slapped around in WWIII just didn't make any sense.

 

[Darthphere]

Anyone else think its funny that Booster Gold popped up and nobody went "Isn't he dead?"

 

[cerealkiller182]

Well, there was a lot going on

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, I figured nobody really noticed in the midst of all the chaos. Plus, Booster was talking like a time traveler ("it wouldn't have worked anyway!"), so whenever they do realize he was there, they'll probably just nod and smile.

 

[Darthphere]

I would've expected Steel to make a comment, considering the ****er stole his rocket.

 

[Darthphere]

I would've expected Steel to make a comment, considering the ****er stole his rocket.