The Amazing Spider-Man The Official ASM THEATRICAL TRAILER Thread! - Part 1

[Juicy J]

And you seem to like it when I bring up the same damn thing, because you're responding to my posts, every damn time.

I'm pretty much done discussing this with you, but this little bit of ridiculousness needed to be addressed:
I don't respond to your constant annoying complaints about the Raimi films every time. Even if I tried to, I couldn't keep up. Multiple other people do that for me.
Here's two from yesterday alone.

I really wish you'd calm down about your utter contempt for anything involved with the Raimi films. Relax. There's a reboot on the way. Just pretend the other movies didn't happen if it makes you feel any better. But please, oh please, stop with the relentless bashing. Even the Raimi haters are tiring of it.

It is not okay for (most of) us. Yet we've all acknowledged that and moved on. Why must you keep reminding us of it tho? We know.

To which I pose to you the question once more (to no avail I'm sure, you'll probably ignore this once again): if multiple people continually have the same issue with, when will you understand that you're the problem and stop what you're doing?

Good for them, I find Marvel movies every bit as turn-your-brain-in-at-the-door action flicks as the Transformers.

Well sorry you find them that way. As I said, you're firmly in the minority.

With Avengers already looking like a Michael Bay film.

Comparing Joss Whedon to Michael Bay..comparison fail, once again
Avengers is gonna kick ass. Granted you're probably going to hate it like you do everything, but I guarantee you it'll be another hit for Marvel.

When you can make Natalie Portman seem like a horrible actress (and she was in Thor), something is serious wrong with the quality of the work coming from your films.

Thor was arguably the most entertaining film of 2011. It had it's weak spots but overall they pretty much perfectly translated the mythos of Thor. The movie also raked in over half a billion dollars and a respectable amount of critical acclaim, which is very impressive for a movie based on a character that had little to no mainstream exposure and is one of the more ridiculous properties in marvel's roster.
It's to the point where I think you're literally going to hate any and all comic book movies unless YOU directed them

I never want spidey to be a co star in his own movie but if there is one villian I wouldn't mind spidey playing second fiddle to, it's lizard. the lizard's story is so gripping and compelling if you aren't going to do the story justice leave it along and pick a villian who's backstory is neither here nor there like mysterio.

Agreed. The lizard deserves all the screen time he can possibly get, and I feel like the character will be handled properly in the film. They'll do him and his story justice.

 

[spider-neil]

I think both can be handled well in a single film. Most great movies have more than one storyline running through them, some even with three. It takes a skill in the knowledge of the characters and knowing how to execute character development to pull it off well. You can make an entire movie with on one subject and one storyline and it can still turn out like a piece of sh--. There's always going to be something that someone wants to see MORE of or LESS of even without an origin story, the ironic thing is, the origin story could turn out to be the best part of this film.

Of course we all hope that THE LIZARD story is great, but cutting out the origin part doesn't gaurantee that this will happen. Having two stories of science and tragedy intertwining together may actually make for a stronger movie overall, through better writing and performance. Of course we don't know any of this for sure. So we are all on a wait and see speculation circle for now. It could all go belly up for many different reasons.

For me, I love "COMIC BOOK-LIKE" movies (Alien, Terminator 2, The Matrix, Predator, Blade Runner, etc.) more than actual comic book movies. It's because they capture the very essence of what and how a comic book film should be made. Still til this day, other than The Dark Knight, no comic book movie can f--- with those films. No matter how much money you throw at them or how much they make at the box office.

good post. I think it would be so cool if both origins are happening parallel to each other with peter and the doctor having pure joy with their new power/arm and then have that joy turn to horror, peter with uncle's bens death and conners with the slow change to lizard.

 

[spider-neil]

I agree with everything you said and in the end you're right: It's all about writing and directing. Those movies you mentioned juggled a lot of plot threads and made them all work together and not feel tacked on. There is no reason this flick should have to sacrifice one story for the other and most great films don't do that at all.

they do?

Alien
aline character is introduced to a space crew and one by one picks them off

Terminator 2,
robot from the future sent back to the past to kill the saviour of the human race (admittedly the plot takes a tangent in the middle but the thurst of sotry is pretty linear)

The Matrix
everyone discovers the world he lives in is an illusion and that he is the saviour of the human race

Predator
alien hunter picks off an elite commando squad one by one

Blade Runner
bounter hunter has to hunt down escaped android

okay, I'll give you blade runner as the story follows two paths; decker's hunt for the andriods and the andriods hunt for longer life, other than that the other stories essentially follow one path and focus on one character.

 

[Sharkboy]

there's nothing wrong with multiple storylines, it's just in spider-man 3 there were tons of barely related plot points, with dark knight each storyline worked well because they all shared common themes and plot elements. ASM's origin and the lizard story are not exclusive, they could concievably work well together in the film, any worry that it won't is completely unfounded.

 

[spider-neil]

there's nothing wrong with multiple storylines, it's just in spider-man 3 there were tons of barely related plot points, with dark knight each storyline worked well because they all shared common themes and plot elements. ASM's origin and the lizard story are not exclusive, they could concievably work well together in the film, any worry that it won't is completely unfounded.

TDK isn't a good example of multiple plotlines (imho) because two-face is horribly under developed.

 

[AbsractPo3tic]

they do?

Alien
aline character is introduced to a space crew and one by one picks them off

Terminator 2,
robot from the future sent back to the past to kill the saviour of the human race (admittedly the plot takes a tangent in the middle but the thurst of sotry is pretty linear)

The Matrix
everyone discovers the world he lives in is an illusion and that he is the saviour of the human race

Predator
alien hunter picks off an elite commando squad one by one

Blade Runner
bounter hunter has to hunt down escaped android

okay, I'll give you blade runner as the story follows two paths; decker's hunt for the andriods and the andriods hunt for longer life, other than that the other stories essentially follow one path and focus on one character.

Touche, sir, Touche

I'll rephrase then, I think they handled different ideas and at least different characters well enough. Predator is probably the simplest of those stories but you get a sense that every guy in that squadron is different and they each get their own moment to shine

 

[spider-neil]

Touche, sir, Touche

I'll rephrase then, I think they handled different ideas and at least different characters well enough. Predator is probably the simplest of those stories but you get a sense that every guy in that squadron is different and they each get their own moment to shine

I agree

 

[Nevincer]

When is the trailer?

 

[Silent_Dave]

I'm still wondering how this trailer was confirmed, if it even was.

 

[Marvel Spider]

RIM confirmed it.

 

[Sharkboy]

TDK isn't a good example of multiple plotlines (imho) because two-face is horribly under developed.

Says you and many other people who don't get the point of Harvey Dent's role in the film. The film was pretty much about harvey dent and the devil/angel on his shoulders (joker/batman). Two face as you know him in the comic was treated as a plot point, a tragic effect on harvey's life that lead to his death, therefore making joker's point that the best of us is truly corruptable. There was never any plan's to develop two face as an everlasting villain, his whole character was a point in which to illustrate the main themes of the film.

As opposed to eddie brock/venom in SM3 whos whole "mirror spider-man" served no real purpose to anything in the story except his own, which was barely given enough time as it is.

See? there's a difference, allocated time means nothing, cramming in random fan favourites to fanservice comic obsessed fanboys = failure as a film. Respectfully utilizing concepts from the source material in order to illustrate themes in an original story = what film is all about.

That's why I'm confident that Marc Webb will do his best to serve a story regardless of how many elements are present as long as they have a good story, this should be one hell of a film.

 

[Troy_Parker]

I didn't feel as though Two-Face was underdeveloped at all.

 

[Silent_Dave]

RIM confirmed it.

Fair enough. Did me confirm that it'd be released the 21st?

 

[Marvel Spider]

No.

 

[Victarion]

there's nothing wrong with multiple storylines, it's just in spider-man 3 there were tons of barely related plot points, with dark knight each storyline worked well because they all shared common themes and plot elements. ASM's origin and the lizard story are not exclusive, they could concievably work well together in the film, any worry that it won't is completely unfounded.

I think these could have been better intertwined. A big problem was that it felt as if the middle of the film shuffled its feet and didn't really try developing them. As long as Webb makes full use of his time and budgets things, the movie should be fine.

 

[Silent_Dave]

No.

Then where did the rumor of it being attached to either Tintin or TGWTDT even come from?

 

[Ultra Ham]

One thing I think superhero origin movies don't always do that well is juggle the origin of the superhero and the origin of the villain. This movie is about Spider-Man, not the Lizard and we should be approaching this story through Peter Parker's perspective. That doesn't mean that we can't let Connors have some scenes of his own, but they must only be there because they concern Spider-man's story. I don't want to feel like there are two parallel stories going on here that then meet at the end.

The Lizard's story has usually been portrayed this way anyways, Spidey fights the Lizard and then discovers his past and helps cure him. This will be Spider-Man's victory in this movie after losing Uncle Ben and this victory will convince him to continue being Spider-Man and helping people. Connors' story should be there to show exactly who Spider-man helped and maybe a scene at the end where Spidey sees Curt and his family reunited could pull that off.

They could just kill the Lizard off though. Then I would be just setting myself up for disappointment.

 

[Marvel Spider]

Then where did the rumor of it being attached to either Tintin or TGWTDT even come from?

Educated guesses.

 

[Oscorp]

Yeah if Connors dies I will be very disappointed!

 

[Marvel Spider]

Just found out that Ghost Protocol comes out on the 21st also. Seriously, there are way too many big movies that come out on that day to NOT have the trailer attached to any of them.

 

[Spider-Dude23]

Is MI4 going to be in 3D?

 

[Marvel Spider]

Men in Black III? Yes.

If you're referring to Mission Impossible 4, then no.

 

[Spidey_62]

Hope Sony doesn't blow that opportunity.

 

[VenomSpawn]

Just found out that Ghost Protocol comes out on the 21st also. Seriously, there are way too many big movies that come out on that day to NOT have the trailer attached to any of them.

Isn't the TDKR prologue going to be with MI4?

 

[Marvel Spider]

VenomSpawn, yeah.