The Official Batman Forever Thread - Part 2

[El Payaso]

One of the problems I now have with BF is the riddles don't serve much purpose. Classic Riddler would leave the police/Batman riddles as clues to his next crime. This Riddler was more of a stalker sending "love letters" to Bruce Wayne, teasing him with his identity. Not sure if I liked that angle.

All the riddles were to spell: Mr. E. I mean................. that's it??? I thought that brtainwashing machine would make him the smartest human being?

Oh but then again on TV they said that the police also received riddles. But they were never shown.

 

[CConn]

I always thought it was kinda cool that it spelled out so many things.

Mr. E. Mystery. Enigma. Mr. E. Nygma. Edward Nygma.

Stickley's suicide was obviously a computer generated forgery.

 

[El Payaso]

I always thought it was kinda cool that it spelled out so many things.

Mr. E. Mystery. Enigma. Mr. E. Nygma. Edward Nygma.

Stickley's suicide was obviously a computer generated forgery.

But of course! The fact that he spelt his name throuigh three riddles could only mean that he digitally faked Stickley's death!

 

[Ponyboy]

Mr. E. Mystery. Enigma. Mr. E. Nygma. Edward Nygma.

Stickley's suicide was obviously a computer generated forgery.

yeah that was pretty out there

 

[bullets]

I always thought it was kinda cool that it spelled out so many things.

Mr. E. Mystery. Enigma. Mr. E. Nygma. Edward Nygma.

Stickley's suicide was obviously a computer generated forgery.

I just watched this today after so many years. I'd forgotten how easy the riddles were but that line cracked me up. It was like Kilmer just broke the fourth wall to speed up the scene.

 

[OutRiddled]

Oh but then again on TV they said that the police also received riddles. But they were never shown.

Yeah, I thought that was kind of lame. Kind of like how they showed Two-Face's origin.

 

[Mandalore464]

You know, the ONLY thing I've ever liked about Two-Face in this film - cause yes, he definitely was its weakest link - is that he was already an established villain on the run at the start of the film.

Too much exposition can kill a film. Or book, or whatever else. The TV newscast showing his origins was a short and efficient way of bringing non-fans up to date with who the character is and how he came to be.

 

[El Payaso]

I just watched this today after so many years. I'd forgotten how easy the riddles were but that line cracked me up. It was like Kilmer just broke the fourth wall to speed up the scene.

At that time, they didn't know that it was butlers' function to do that. t:

Yeah, I thought that was kind of lame. Kind of like how they showed Two-Face's origin.

Yes. Btw, I never got that Harvey Dent usd that folder to protect his face from the acid, but somehow he just carefully protected half of his face. And then he protected it all but somehow the acid burnt the face and half of the folder. Never got that sequence right msyelf.

 

[Mister Meddle]

I never liked the way Two Face looked. Even when I was a kid. I always thought Two Face (in a live action film) should have half of his face literally look like it was burned off. Instead of applying pink face paint with such a perfect border line down the center of his face (he should at least have fading burn marks). I pretty much wanted Two Face to look the way he did in TDK.

vs

 

[circa81]

two face's look in TDK is so over the top it's unintentionally funny, and nowhere near "realistic".

 

[babbage]

Unintentionally funny? The internet, sometimes...

 

[Mister Meddle]

two face's look in TDK is so over the top it's unintentionally funny, and nowhere near "realistic".

Another "teh realism" guy. I guess having a half pink face with a perfectly painted borderline down the center of his face is much better and more realistic.

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

Ya I never liked the makeup job for TF even as a kid it was very poorly done.

 

[circa81]

Another "teh realism" guy. I guess having a half pink face with a perfectly painted borderline down the center of his face is much better and more realistic.

I'm not a realism guy, Nolan is, and almost nothing in TDK is realistic. Burton was the best.

 

[The Joker]

two face's look in TDK is so over the top it's unintentionally funny, and nowhere near "realistic".

It's not meant to be "realistic" any more than ninjas living in the Himalayas plotting to destroy a city with a Microwave emitter is realistic.

Nolan never claimed his Batman movies are realistic. His Two Face is probably the most visually striking and terrifying looking Batman villain on screen yet.

 

[The Guard]

Regarding Two-Face being pink...

http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/141_4_000000234.jpg

In the 60's and some of the 70's he was bright green. BATMAN: TAS had him a ridiculous blue color. There's a precedent for it.

 

[Mister Meddle]

Maybe if the pink color was applied better or with a different shade. It just looks like standard hot pink face paint that you'd find at a local Hot Topic. And it's not like the burnt side fades out in the center of the face. Two Face's face job was just as bad as the overall character.

 

[nogap87]

I'm torn when it comes to TDK Two Face. Sure he looks cool but his ****ed up side doesn't look like it could handle a gentle poke from a new born baby without experiencing unbearable pain, let alone a punch from Batman. For that, he loses intimidation points.

 

[Bruce Malone]

I'm torn when it comes to TDK Two Face. Sure he looks cool but his ****ed up side doesn't look like it could handle a gentle poke from a new born baby without experiencing unbearable pain, let alone a punch from Batman. For that, he loses intimidation points.

That's the point though, he's supposed to be in immense pain but his rage is blocking all that out. Gordon talks about how he's turning down pain killers. He's running on pure adrenaline that's intense.




Also something i made when i was bored a little while ago haha

 

[Mister Meddle]

That's the point though, he's supposed to be in immense pain but his rage is blocking all that out. Gordon talks about how he's turning down pain killers. He's running on pure adrenaline that's intense.

Agreed.

Also something i made when i was bored a little while ago haha

With that smile I sure hope he stays away from the playgrounds during the day time.

 

[nogap87]

That's the point though, he's supposed to be in immense pain but his rage is blocking all that out. Gordon talks about how he's turning down pain killers. He's running on pure adrenaline that's intense.

Meh. One good slap to the left side of his face and he'd be down for the count.

 

[Bruce Malone]

^^^

That's why he has a gun on him...

...also like i said this man does not even pay attention to pain at this point. Half his face has been charred to a crisp he probably doesn't even have any never endings there left to feel pain.

 

[Mandalore464]

I like Two-Face's look in TDK, and I like it in BF as well. Never had a problem with his scarred side being a clean straight line, that's the way he's always been portrayed in other Batman media, never seen anyone complain about it till TDK came along.

My issue with the character is his portrayal. Not his looks.

 

[nogap87]

^^^

That's why he has a gun on him...

...also like i said this man does not even pay attention to pain at this point. Half his face has been charred to a crisp he probably doesn't even have any never endings there left to feel pain.

Agree to disagree. I felt Two Faces's look was more style over substance.

 

[El Payaso]

Agree to disagree. I felt Two Faces's look was more style over substance.

In TDK?