The Official Batman Returns Thread

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I think the new Bat movies lost some of the style and comic book aspect that the Burton movies had. The new movies are great and all but something is just off about them. Batman seems out of place in his own movie to me.
 
The new Batman movies have a different style, not no style. And that style used fits Batman's mythos better in most cases.
 
Killing Joke, you mean? I don't remember Gotham being prominently featured, if at all, in that book.
 
Killing Joke, you mean?
You know what I mean, LOL ...

I don't remember Gotham being prominently featured, if at all, in that book.
It wasn't prominently featured. But when it did the look of the city is very contemporary and realistic. Not full of Gothic structures, Neone lights, etc.
 
gothic structures are part of most major cities in america, I can go into any city and find a building with gargoyles on it.
 
gothic structures are part of most major cities in america, I can go into any city and find a building with gargoyles on it.
No there isn't. There is some, but not to great extents. And there are Gothic architexture, but it doesn't equate to the ultra stylized version of Burton's Gotham City. That's the point I was making, and I don't understand what you're wanting to argue? The look of Gotham in BEGINS and TDK is similar to the Gotham in B:YO and The Killing Joke. Chicago has alot of Gothic architexture, but it isn't full of gargoyles. I'm saying a contemporary city can represent Gotham. Gotham isn't just represented by stylistic city scapes, with an abundance of Gothic architexture and gargoyles. I'm arguing that Nolan's Gotham certainly looks like different versions of Gotham seen in the comics. The poster I was arguing with said Nolan's Batman look was "off" and wasn't an accurate representation of what Gotham would or ever has looked like in the comics. Which is completely false.
 
Im not arguing with you I dont even care what your saying, Im saying that in america's architecture there are tons of gothic themes, TO EVERY CITY. Im not saying that its to the extent of Burtons films, I dont believe I stated that once.
 
I dont even care what your saying
Then why were you replying to me? And specifically refrencing what I was talking about?

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Im saying that in america's architecture there are tons of gothic themes, TO EVERY CITY. Im not saying that its to the extent of Burtons films, I dont believe I stated that once.
Why? There was no point in mentioning any of this ... all I was explaining was that Nolan's visual interp of Batman's city is equivelent to quite a few ways its seen in Batman stories.
 
I think the new Bat movies lost some of the style and comic book aspect that the Burton movies had. The new movies are great and all but something is just off about them. Batman seems out of place in his own movie to me.

Agreed, new batman films a great...

But Burtons have something really special to them, its a whole feeling you get from the entire movie.
 
It's the look and feel of this image... that make's Burton's visual approach so great.

As much as I love Nolan, it IS something that his movie lack.

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I will have to agree. Burton's visual style just lends itself to a real grand iconography that defines the series.

Though I will note that Nolan did a superb job on Joker, which incidentally is very Burton-like in design. Ditto for Two-Face.
 
^Agreed. I lvoed Burtons style, especially in BR. The snow, the music, the scenery..... beautiful. That is why BR is my favorite movie.
 
Batman Returns premiere - June 16, 1992 at Grauman's Chinese Theatre in Hollywood, California:
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Batman Returns costume designers Bob Ringwood and Mary Vogt.
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It's the look and feel of this image... that make's Burton's visual approach so great.

As much as I love Nolan, it IS something that his movie lack.

Agreed. This is one of the things that bugs me the most about TDK in particular. I get what he was going for, but I'd like some more atmosphere.
 
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