The Official Batman Returns Thread

[TruerToTheCore]

I actually just put Core boy on my ignore list. Just sayin'.

So, how about that Batman Returns? Gotta love Michelle Pfeiffer in leather.

I am the most intelligent user here, and one of the most educated.

 

[Travesty]

But you know what, last summer I heard a lot of talk that The Dark Knight transcended the "comic book movie" to become real art. BR is pretty open to interpretation and has its enthusiastic lovers, its venomous haters, and some in between; to me, that is art.

 

[aragen]

t: I just got a 1992 Horizon Model Kit of the Penguin from Batman Returns!
If I don't screw it up, I'll post pics when it's done.

 

[Chris Wallace]

I wanted to like it. I've even re-watched it, hoping my opinion would change. But I simply cannot get into this movie. The plot. The melodrama. The dialogue-I just can't take it. I hated it so much that for 3 years I allowed it to taint my perception of the character. Yet I've watched fanboys praise this film for well over a decade. Am I alone here?

 

[Wiseman]

I hated Batman Returns. I saw it in theaters just like I saw the first Batman and I walked out so upset. I think it's better then I used to think it was but I still wouldn't watch it unless there's nothing else on tv

 

[Cain]

There are plenty of people out there that hated Batman Returns. I was never one of them though.

 

[luke1234]

Yeah i always thought it was a mixed bag of reviews, I for one loved it but I can understand why other people didnt like it.

 

[MadVillainy]

I've always disliked it. I even think BF is better because at least I can laugh during it

 

[Chris Wallace]

I've always disliked it. I even think BF is better because at least I can laugh during it

Same here.

 

[The Chris]

I don't hate it, but i don't like it as much as I used to and find it a little overrated (which is a shame because I hate that damn word) among bat circles.

 

[[A]]

I liked it. Didn't love it. Don't hate it either.

 

[Chris Wallace]

I don't like the Penguin. Never have. Not in any depiction. I didn't like what they did with Catwoman's origin. Batman came off incompetent to me & I hated Schreck. THen the dialogue. Lines like "Mistletoe can be deadly if you eat it." WHO THE **** WAS TALKING ABOUT EATING IT?!?!?!? It just didn't work for me at all.

 

[MadVillainy]

^^^^lol. I hate Burton's penguin too. I do believe that it would be pretty easy to bring Penguin to the big screen, it's just nobody has done it. Catwoman's origin was bogus, and Schreck was the stupidest villain

 

[Cain]

In contrast this is one of the few versions of The Penguin I could actually tolerate, the Catwoman and Batman dynamic I felt was spot on, I think it's one of the most interesting explorations of some of the main themes of the Batman mythos. Themes like duality, loneliness, tragedy, romance which gives it a very strong presence from Batman himself even through the secondary characters. I actually think Batman is more imposing and to the point than in the original here and to me still has the best overall romantic relationship of any superhero movie to date.

 

[Cain]

^^^^lol. I hate Burton's penguin too. I do believe that it would be pretty easy to bring Penguin to the big screen, it's just nobody has done it. Catwoman's origin was bogus, and Schreck was the stupidest villain

He doesn't like The Penguin, period and to be frank neither do I really.

 

[Travesty]

I've always disliked it. I even think BF is better because at least I can laugh during it

Hmmm? So do you happen to dislike TDK, then?

 

[Chris Wallace]

To be fair, TDK also provides laughs.

 

[Travesty]

To be fair, TDK also provides laughs.

To be honest, I think Returns provides more then TDK.

 

[TruerToTheCore]

I was never a big fan of the Burton movies. I don't like Keaton as Batman and I am not too fond of his character in these flicks. That said, my opinion towards Batman 89 has changed in the last few months. I confused too much things with Batman Returns, because Bruce Wayne is not as half as weird as he is the second movie. All those rocket penguins, zombie catwomen, let's run for mayor things... not my cup of tea. Although I will admit there is some depth to Batman Returns, and artistic quality. It was definitely a bold movie, perhaps the boldest comic book movie ever.

While I can get over the changes in Catwoman's character I could never forgive that the turned the gentleman villain Penguin into a sadistic creature. Afterall, I lived in a time when the Penguin was regarded as number 2 Batman villain, and not like a weak joke. I am a secret Penguin fan, I always liked him. (The did the same to the Joker in TDK, who was always a kind of dandy).

 

[The Joker]

Looooooove Batman Returns. Like it more than B'89.

 

[The Batman]

I was never a big fan of the Burton movies. I don't like Keaton as Batman and I am not too fond of his character in these flicks. That said, my opinion towards Batman 89 has changed in the last few months. I confused too much things with Batman Returns, because Bruce Wayne is not as half as weird as he is the second movie. All those rocket penguins, zombie catwomen, let's run for mayor things... not my cup of tea. Although I will admit there is some depth to Batman Returns, and artistic quality. It was definitely a bold movie, perhaps the boldest comic book movie ever.

While I can get over the changes in Catwoman's character I could never forgive that the turned the gentleman villain Penguin into a sadistic creature. Afterall, I lived in a time when the Penguin was regarded as number 2 Batman villain, and not like a weak joke. I am a secret Penguin fan, I always liked him. (The did the same to the Joker in TDK, who was always a kind of dandy).

was joker number one? I imagine theres a chance riddler wouldve been, due to frank gorshin

 

[Catman]

Batman Returns is a horrible movie on the surface but a brilliant one under it. Returns is possibly the most artistic movie in the superhero genre. Which is why some people hate it while others don't. Either you get it or you don't.

On the surface, the movie is about a bunch of weird-looking people messing with each other. Under the surface it's a movie about victims of crime and how they handled it differently and it shaped who they are.

Batman saw his parents murdered. So he became a superhero so others wouldn't go throught the same as him. Penguin got thrown into a river by his parents. So, he hates society. Catwoman was almost killed so she's angry and wants revenge. But, like Batman, she's willing to defend the innocent as it was shown with her saving that woman who was being mugged.

 

[Bathead]

You see, that's my problem. I really liked the movie, even though there were some elements I didn't care for, but,he thing is,(IMO) there are some fans who give it credit for more artistic depth than it deserves. I really don't believe it's all that deep. Again, IMO, it's all style and little substance, not that there's anything inherently wrong with that. It was a fun (and in some parts, a little silly)Batman movie, nothing more, nothing less.

 

[TruerToTheCore]

was joker number one? I imagine theres a chance riddler wouldve been, due to frank gorshin

Joker was always number 1. Joker, Penguin, Catwoman - the classic foes till the 80s. The Riddler was usually a minor villain before the TV show and because of the change in the style of the Batman comics he didn't really have his big impact. The 70s also saw the rise of R'as Al'Ghul and Two-Face, much better fits for the Bronze Age. But the Riddler was still a big villain.

So... Joker was and is the number 1, the number 2 these days... probably R'as or Two-Face.

 

[The Joker]

I love old school Penguin. Always have. Making him a casino owner mob boss was such lazy writing. I can name a dozen stories where old school Penguin was written as a genuine threat and a real challenge for Batman.