The Official Boxing Thread!!! - Part 2

[Iceman]

Khan looks like he's won every round so far at the halfway stage.

 

[The Game]

Khan is lighting Alexander up

 

[Iceman]

Khan wins by decision 119-109, 118-110, 120-108

 

[Docker2.0]

"Jim, I gotta tell you"............who says that every time they are on the air? Harold freakin Lederman! Didn't watch the HBO card because it was Showtime's night but a lot of people are in an uproar over the Bradley split decision. Will watch later this week.

After watching Thurman fight last night, I can honestly see why they won't let him near Mayweather. He has flaws in his game. He needs to be patient because I didn't see the one sided dominance the judges saw. After that first round, it seemed to go either way.

And Khan looked good last night. I can see him giving Mayweather fits with his hand speed.

 

[Fallen Angel]

Ami khan just outclassed Devon Alexander. Very impressive performance. If he doesn't get a fight with MAyweather, Khan V Thurman or Brook would be great.

Khan V Brook at Wembley in front of 90k fans would be a sight to see.

 

[Iceman]

He should have to fight Brook 1st. If he wins that then he deserves a shot at Mayweather and Pacquiao. He has the style to trouble Mayweather although I'm sure Mayweather will adapt and find a good way of countering.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Yeah but to put this solely on Arum is just pure lunacy. Neither party has wanted it, and that's the truth and what I've been saying for years.

But Flomos like Docker2.0 want to place the blame solely on Arum and paint Mayweather the victim.

I agree. The only person who wants this fight is Manny. Both Mayweather and Arum have been avoiding it like the plague. Both men have said some of the most ridiculous crap as excuses.

 

[Docker2.0]

Yeah but to put this solely on Arum is just pure lunacy. Neither party has wanted it, and that's the truth and what I've been saying for years.

But Flomos like Docker2.0 want to place the blame solely on Arum and paint Mayweather the victim.

My gawd man. I don't ever think I've seen a bigger nut job in my entire life when it comes to hating a boxer so much. Remember when Arum and Manny was calling out Floyd before the Algeri fight? Now Floyd has called Manny out to make it happen on May 2nd, what is the new story? Arum has come up with a new excuse! Floyd nor Manny are not mexican so they shouldn't fight on May 2, knowing full well that Mayweather always fights on that date and has already reserved an arena in Vegas. But yet some how you will blame this on Mayweather and not see that Arum does this same game every single time Manny has a fight: he calls for Floyd to fight Manny and as soon as Manny is free, he's the one who comes up with the big excuse! Is Floyd innocent? No, I think everyone is to blame in this fiasco but Arum is THE biggest reason this fight hasn't happened more than anyone else but sheep like you will believe anything this self admitted liar will say. Anyway, here's the story below but yet you will find away to call me a "Flomo" even though the evidence is right smack in your face.

Spoiler

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2014/12/arum-wants-cinco-de-mayo-for-canelo-not-mayweather-pacquiao/

 

[Iron_Stark]

My gawd man. I don't ever think I've seen a bigger nut job in my entire life when it comes to hating a boxer so much. Remember when Arum and Manny was calling out Floyd before the Algeri fight? Now Floyd has called Manny out to make it happen on May 2nd, what is the new story? Arum has come up with a new excuse! Floyd nor Manny are not mexican so they shouldn't fight on May 2, knowing full well that Mayweather always fights on that date and has already reserved an arena in Vegas. But yet some how you will blame this on Mayweather and not see that Arum does this same game every single time Manny has a fight: he calls for Floyd to fight Manny and as soon as Manny is free, he's the one who comes up with the big excuse! Is Floyd innocent? No, I think everyone is to blame in this fiasco but Arum is THE biggest reason this fight hasn't happened more than anyone else but sheep like you will believe anything this self admitted liar will say. Anyway, here's the story below but yet you will find away to call me a "Flomo" even though the evidence is right smack in your face.

Spoiler

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2014/12/arum-wants-cinco-de-mayo-for-canelo-not-mayweather-pacquiao/

Mayweather shouldn't even be fighting on Mexican holidays, it's an insult to Mexicans. Why not fight on July 4th or MLK weekend? Why does he have to piggyback on other people's holidays? If he's the biggest PPV attraction that he claims he is, fight on those dates, then. Leave the Mexican holidays to Mexicans, like Canelo.

Btw, Pac RIGHT NOW is the only one trying to make the fight, money, venue, weight, date, A-side/B-side, promoter, and cable network and needles are not an issue with him. Look at the Mayweather's interview on Showtime this past weekend "We tryina make da fight, but it's got to be on Showtime, on May 2, with this, with that" Everything has to be on his terms.

Mayweather may say he wants the fight but all that ever comes out of his mouth are excuses. TBE - The Best Excuses

edit: Actually Golden Boy Promotions had the MGM Grand reserved for May 2 back before Mayweather Promotions got their license.

 

[Docker2.0]

Mayweather shouldn't even be fighting on Mexican holidays, it's an insult to Mexicans. Why not fight on July 4th or MLK weekend? Why does he have to piggyback on other people's holidays? If he's the biggest PPV attraction that he claims he is, fight on those dates, then. Leave the Mexican holidays to Mexicans, like Canelo.

Btw, Pac RIGHT NOW is the only one trying to make the fight, money, venue, weight, date, A-side/B-side, promoter, and cable network and needles are not an issue with him. Look at the Mayweather's interview on Showtime this past weekend "We tryina make da fight, but it's got to be on Showtime, on May 2, with this, with that" Everything has to be on his terms.

Mayweather may say he wants the fight but all that ever comes out of his mouth are excuses. TBE - The Best Excuses

edit: Actually Golden Boy Promotions had the MGM Grand reserved for May 2 back before Mayweather Promotions got their license.

That is the LAMEST excuse I've heard for Mayweather not to fight on the day! He's always fought on those days and Mexicans had no problem supporting him. You don't heard any of them complaining about it as he's always seem to make a lot of money on that day, even if he doesn't fight a Mexican. Plus, if I'm not mistaken Pacquiao has fought on that date as well in the past, so why is it a problem now? And as far as the fight is concerned, Mayweather is on a Showtime exclusive contract but I don't believe Manny is on a HBO exclusive contract, even though he only fights there so it would make sense since the fight is on Showtime.
But what happened to "we are talking behind the scenes to get this fight done" before the Algieri fight......but now they have no opponent, Arum has come up with another excuse. Don't get me wrong, I believe this fight will happen before June and this is all build up(I believe it's going to be announced next week to be exact)but Arum is full of crap. If by a small chance it doesn't, Manny has his opponent already lined up and he fought on his card in China.
But let's play devil's advocate: if Manny can't fight Floyd, why can't he fight Broner or Thurman? These guys have been calling him out but he wants no part of them. Maidana has called him out as well but he said no. And again, I honestly don't fault Manny a lot in this. I honestly believe he does want the fight, probably more so than Floyd but unless his master Arum approves of the fight going forward, Manny could stick his chest out to the media all he wants, but it ain't happening.

What's with you calling Floyd all these names? He doesn't read this thread nor is anyone here related to him? Why can't you post like any normal sane person and make points without the name calling?

And I do believe Manny does want this fight now. Here's a line below to prove it with all the trash talking they are both doing but again, Manny could bark all he wants but Arum is the one with the bite and unless he says it's ok, it ain't happening.

Spoiler

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/pacquiao-says-money-no-object-mayweather-showdown-032200998--box.html

 

[Iron_Stark]

That is the LAMEST excuse I've heard for Mayweather not to fight on the day! He's always fought on those days and Mexicans had no problem supporting him. You don't heard any of them complaining about it as he's always seem to make a lot of money on that day, even if he doesn't fight a Mexican. Plus, if I'm not mistaken Pacquiao has fought on that date as well in the past, so why is it a problem now? And as far as the fight is concerned, Mayweather is on a Showtime exclusive contract but I don't believe Manny is on a HBO exclusive contract, even though he only fights there so it would make sense since the fight is on Showtime.
But what happened to "we are talking behind the scenes to get this fight done" before the Algieri fight......but now they have no opponent, Arum has come up with another excuse. Don't get me wrong, I believe this fight will happen before June and this is all build up(I believe it's going to be announced next week to be exact)but Arum is full of crap. If by a small chance it doesn't, Manny has his opponent already lined up and he fought on his card in China.
But let's play devil's advocate: if Manny can't fight Floyd, why can't he fight Broner or Thurman? These guys have been calling him out but he wants no part of them. Maidana has called him out as well but he said no. And again, I honestly don't fault Manny a lot in this. I honestly believe he does want the fight, probably more so than Floyd but unless his master Arum approves of the fight going forward, Manny could stick his chest out to the media all he wants, but it ain't happening.

What's with you calling Floyd all these names? He doesn't read this thread nor is anyone here related to him? Why can't you post like any normal sane person and make points without the name calling?

And I do believe Manny does want this fight now. Here's a line below to prove it with all the trash talking they are both doing but again, Manny could bark all he wants but Arum is the one with the bite and unless he says it's ok, it ain't happening.

Spoiler

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/pacquiao-says-money-no-object-mayweather-showdown-032200998--box.html

Dude gtfo, Mexicans don't support Mayweather, you think he fights on those dates because people love him and want to see him win? They pay to see him lose, which is why he's always picking a Latino opponent to fight on that date. Canelo rightfully deserves those dates, I bet Mayweather doesn't even know the meaning of those dates and why they get celebrated, even if he could read I doubt he would read about Mexican history. So quit trying to act like he's some supporter of the Mexican community and they support him.

Manny is an HBO fighter (remember that 2-year extension Pac signed that got all the Flomos riled up? Well HBO was included in it),

Spoiler

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/10959154/manny-pacquiao-signs-two-year-extension-top-rank

HBO and Showtime are willing to co-promote this fight like Tyson/Lewis, it's Mayweather that's making the excuses.

Pac has only fought on May 5th weekend twice, Mosley in '11 and Hatton in '09

Broner is ass and will do nothing for his legacy and Thurman proved this weekend he's not ready for the big time. When exactly has Pac said NO to Maidana? All he's been talking about is Mayweather? He's not Lara, he doesn't want the guy Mayweather beat, he wants Mayweather.

Keep on blaming Arum all you want but The Best Excuses is the one that's going to prevent this fight.

 

[Docker2.0]

Dude gtfo, Mexicans don't support Mayweather, you think he fights on those dates because people love him and want to see him win? They pay to see him lose, which is why he's always picking a Latino opponent to fight on that date. Canelo rightfully deserves those dates, I bet Mayweather doesn't even know the meaning of those dates and why they get celebrated, even if he could read I doubt he would read about Mexican history. So quit trying to act like he's some supporter of the Mexican community and they support him.

Manny is an HBO fighter, HBO and Showtime are willing to co-promote this fight like Tyson/Lewis, it's Mayweather that's making the excuses.

Pac has only fought on May 5th weekend twice, Mosley in '11 and Hatton in '09

Broner is ass and will do nothing for his legacy and Thurman proved this weekend he's not ready for the big time.

Keep on blaming Arum all you want but The Best Excuses is the one that's going to prevent this fight.

When it comes to boxing, you see everything in black and white. Manny is not HBO exclusive. He could fight on Showtime if he wanted to I believe anyway. And as far as Mexicans supporting Mayweather, when you buy his fight, you are supporting him. Even if you want him to lose, you are supporting him. And I'm going to say this even though I know you will dispute it: despite Canelo and Cotto fighting on that date and no doubt be "huge", it won't do Mayweather/Maidana numbers. It's a great PR vs Mexico rivalry but it also speaks to how great Mayweather markets himself as the villain. He has people like you who hate him with a passion and will probably kill bunnies to see him lose shows that he is doing a good job. Manny fighting on May 5th under Bob Arum shows just how much of a hypocrite Arum is. Why is it a problem for Manny and Floyd to fight on that date now? But yet you can't see it? I'm not surprised though because no matter what, you find a way to blame Mayweather for something. If it freakin snows outside, you blame "Flomos" for it.

 

[Iron_Stark]

When it comes to boxing, you see everything in black and white. Manny is not HBO exclusive. He could fight on Showtime if he wanted to I believe anyway. And as far as Mexicans supporting Mayweather, when you buy his fight, you are supporting him. Even if you want him to lose, you are supporting him. And I'm going to say this even though I know you will dispute it: despite Canelo and Cotto fighting on that date and no doubt be "huge", it won't do Mayweather/Maidana numbers. It's a great PR vs Mexico rivalry but it also speaks to how great Mayweather markets himself as the villain. He has people like you who hate him with a passion and will probably kill bunnies to see him lose shows that he is doing a good job. Manny fighting on May 5th under Bob Arum shows just how much of a hypocrite Arum is. Why is it a problem for Manny and Floyd to fight on that date now? But yet you can't see it? I'm not surprised though because no matter what, you find a way to blame Mayweather for something. If it freakin snows outside, you blame "Flomos" for it.

Are you that dense? Manny Pacquiao signed a two year contract with Top Rank back in May. Top Rank is partnered with HBO. Meaning for the next TWO years Pac is an EXCLUSIVE HBO fighter. Did you understand that or must it get translated into infant speak like they do for Mayweather?

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=12034164&categoryid=2491554

Even I'm not the only one that thinks Mayweather doesn't want it.


About the May 5th date, Canelo/Cotto, fighting on that date seems more logical, Mexican holiday, Mex/PR rivalry, they could easily do Mayweather/Maidana numbers. And HBO wouldn't be losing any money like Showtime has on Mayweather. According to Stephen A Smith Showtime lost $16 Million this year for the Maidana fights:

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/i...ells-floyd-mayweather-jr-give-fans-fight-want

Mayweather/Pac on any date anytime of the year would make close to 3 million ppv buys

Plus Mayweather isn't Mexican so he should leave those dates alone. He needs to quit sullying those dates with his presence. The battle of Puebla and their Independence do not need to be associated with some woman beating thug.

 

[Fallen Angel]

Well Oscar and Goldenboy Promotions will be holding a meeting with HBO,Arum and Showtime to end this cold war. So fighters on whichever side can fight each other.

 

[Docker2.0]

Are you that dense? Manny Pacquiao signed a two year contract with Top Rank back in May. Top Rank is partnered with HBO. Meaning for the next TWO years Pac is an EXCLUSIVE HBO fighter. Did you understand that or must it get translated into infant speak like they do for Mayweather?

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=12034164&categoryid=2491554

Even I'm not the only one that thinks Mayweather doesn't want it.


About the May 5th date, Canelo/Cotto, fighting on that date seems more logical, Mexican holiday, Mex/PR rivalry, they could easily do Mayweather/Maidana numbers. And HBO wouldn't be losing any money like Showtime has on Mayweather. According to Stephen A Smith Showtime lost $16 Million this year for the Maidana fights:

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/i...ells-floyd-mayweather-jr-give-fans-fight-want

Mayweather/Pac on any date anytime of the year would make close to 3 million ppv buys

Plus Mayweather isn't Mexican so he should leave those dates alone. He needs to quit sullying those dates with his presence. The battle of Puebla and their Independence do not need to be associated with some woman beating thug.

In every post above, I said I didn't think Manny was HBO exclusive. Clearly I was wrong and I admit that. But I still stand by what I said that everyone wants the fight except Bob Arum, who CLEARLY likes to keep his fights in house so he can get the most money. And I stand by what I said about Cotto/Canelo. It won't do Mayweather/Maidana numbers. Neither has made that kind of numbers unless they fought Mayweather or Manny. I know a lot of people say that Mexicans buy a lot of ppv's, which I'm sure they do but people of all races tend to, despite the large number of hispanic fighters. And would you chill with the childish name calling. You post like a 2 year old with that. Despite many times I wanted to call you all kinds of things, I clearly haven't.

Well Oscar and Goldenboy Promotions will be holding a meeting with HBO,Arum and Showtime to end this cold war. So fighters on whichever side can fight each other.

We will see. This cold ward supposedly ended a year ago but how many GBP fighters fought TR fighters? Arum really needs to step aside. I do think De La Hoya is trying to do what's right about the sport but I've stated from the jump that the problem is Bob Arum. I'm glad Oscar is willing to put his bad history with him aside to try and do the right thing. But the bad blood between Floyd and Arum seems to be deeper than we all know.

 

[Iron_Stark]

In every post above, I said I didn't think Manny was HBO exclusive. Clearly I was wrong and I admit that. But I still stand by what I said that everyone wants the fight except Bob Arum, who CLEARLY likes to keep his fights in house so he can get the most money. And I stand by what I said about Cotto/Canelo. It won't do Mayweather/Maidana numbers. Neither has made that kind of numbers unless they fought Mayweather or Manny. I know a lot of people say that Mexicans buy a lot of ppv's, which I'm sure they do but people of all races tend to, despite the large number of hispanic fighters. And would you chill with the childish name calling. You post like a 2 year old with that. Despite many times I wanted to call you all kinds of things, I clearly haven't.

Blah blah Arum is the devil blah blah, that's all that comes out of you. Clearly you ignored the videos I posted and realize it's Mayeather not Arum at this moment in time that doesn't want the fight.

We will see. This cold ward supposedly ended a year ago but how many GBP fighters fought TR fighters? Arum really needs to step aside. I do think De La Hoya is trying to do what's right about the sport but I've stated from the jump that the problem is Bob Arum. I'm glad Oscar is willing to put his bad history with him aside to try and do the right thing. But the bad blood between Floyd and Arum seems to be deeper than we all know.

Gary Russell Jr(GBP) vs Vasyl Lomachenko(Top Rank) already happened. WRONG again.

How many fighters from Mayweather Promotions fought other promotors fighters? Answer that.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Mayweather shouldn't even be fighting on Mexican holidays, it's an insult to Mexicans. Why not fight on July 4th or MLK weekend? Why does he have to piggyback on other people's holidays? If he's the biggest PPV attraction that he claims he is, fight on those dates, then. Leave the Mexican holidays to Mexicans, like Canelo.

Btw, Pac RIGHT NOW is the only one trying to make the fight, money, venue, weight, date, A-side/B-side, promoter, and cable network and needles are not an issue with him. Look at the Mayweather's interview on Showtime this past weekend "We tryina make da fight, but it's got to be on Showtime, on May 2, with this, with that" Everything has to be on his terms.

Mayweather may say he wants the fight but all that ever comes out of his mouth are excuses. TBE - The Best Excuses

edit: Actually Golden Boy Promotions had the MGM Grand reserved for May 2 back before Mayweather Promotions got their license.

And that is where you lost me. Did you really just try and make that argument?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Blah blah Arum is evil Blah blah, that's all that comes out of you.

Are you saying he isn't evil, at least in terms of boxing? The guy gives Don King a run for his money in his shadiness.

 

[Iron_Stark]

Are you saying he isn't evil, at least in terms of boxing? The guy gives Don King a run for his money in his shadiness.

Yeah he's evil and a shady MFer as far as boxing go, but atleast in this moment in time he's trying to make the fight happen.

Looking at Mayweather's interview on Saturday, you really believe he wants this fight?

And that is where you lost me. Did you really just try and make that argument?

Sure. What part of that isn't true.

Spoiler

http://ringtv.craveonline.com/news/...oyd-mayweather-jr-in-battle-for-cince-de-mayo

“Everybody knows that Oscar is getting me May 2 and September,” said Alvarez, THE RING’s No. 1-rated junior middleweight, on Saturday. “Those are the Mexican holidays, and they belong to the Mexican fighters. Everybody knows those are the Mexican holidays and the traditional dates for the Mexican fighters.” - Canelo Alvarez

Truth

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Yeah he's evil and a shady MFer as far as boxing go, but atleast in this moment in time he's trying to make the fight happen.

Looking at Mayweather's interview on Saturday, you really believe he wants this fight?

Except he clearly isn't, as Arum is already making excuses.

Here is the truth. If Manny and Arum really want this fight, and Manny said he'd do it for free, why don't they just give into all of Floyd's demands? 60/40, where Floyd wants, when Floyd wants, take the blood test. It is that simple.

Sure. What part of that isn't true.

Spoiler

http://ringtv.craveonline.com/news/...oyd-mayweather-jr-in-battle-for-cince-de-mayo

Truth

Cinco de mayo is basically a boxing holiday. One that Floyd has made very successful. Your argument is made out of pure spite, and is ridiculous. It shows your bias and it is clear you are no longer to be taken seriously on this matter.

 

[Iron_Stark]

Except he clearly isn't, as Arum is already making excuses.

Here is the truth. If Manny and Arum really want this fight, and Manny said he'd do it for free, why don't they just give into all of Floyd's demands? 60/40, where Floyd wants, when Floyd wants, take the blood test. It is that simple.

You don't think Mayweather's demands aren't ridiculous? You really think he'll settle for a 60/40 split? Again, what part of this weekend's interview gave you or anyone confidence that Mayweather really wants this fight.

Cinco de mayo is basically a boxing holiday. One that Floyd has made very successful. Your argument is made out of pure spite, and is ridiculous. It shows your bias and it is clear you are no longer to be taken seriously on this matter.

Julio Cesar Chavez made Cinco de Mayo and Mexican Independance days into boxing holidays. Oscar De La Hoya followed suit and made it bigger with PPV. Mayweather is just piggy backing off of them. He claims he's the #1 attraction, fight on MLK day, Memorial Day or July 4th.

 

[Docker2.0]

Except he clearly isn't, as Arum is already making excuses.

Here is the truth. If Manny and Arum really want this fight, and Manny said he'd do it for free, why don't they just give into all of Floyd's demands? 60/40, where Floyd wants, when Floyd wants, take the blood test. It is that simple.


Cinco de mayo is basically a boxing holiday. One that Floyd has made very successful. Your argument is made out of pure spite, and is ridiculous. It shows your bias and it is clear you are no longer to be taken seriously on this matter.

Why do we even bother debating this dude? He CLEARLY sees what he wants to see. Floyd is the devil no matter what is shown to him. There can be dna evidence that Arum is Lucifer in the flesh but he'd still find a way to pin it on Mayweather.

 

[Iron_Stark]

Why do we even bother debating this dude? He CLEARLY sees what he wants to see. Floyd is the devil no matter what is shown to him. There can be dna evidence that Arum is Lucifer in the flesh but he'd still find a way to pin it on Mayweather.

You were already proven WRONG on two accounts TODAY. Why are you even trying to say I'm wrong?

Show me where I'm wrong about Mayweather wanting to make this fight fair for all parties involved without having Pac give in to his ridiculous demands.

Here, I'll post this up again:

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=12034164&categoryid=2491554

 

[Docker2.0]

You were already proven WRONG on two accounts TODAY. Why are you even trying to say I'm wrong?

Show me where I'm wrong about Mayweather wanting to make this fight fair for all parties involved without having Pac give in to his ridiculous demands.

Here, I'll post this up again:

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=12034164&categoryid=2491554

ESPN is the sports version of TMZ. Certain things they won't touch and certain athletes they won't bash at all. Arum and Manny happen to be on that list. And for the 1000th time, I didn't say Mayweather wasn't without blame, nor did I say Manny wasn't either. I said Arum is THE MAIN reason this fight hasn't happened. What is wrong with you?!?

 

[Doc Samson]

Yeah. I know, but I...I can't help myself SMH:

Dude gtfo, Mexicans don't support Mayweather, you think he fights on those dates because people love him and want to see him win? They pay to see him lose, which is why he's always picking a Latino opponent to fight on that date. Canelo rightfully deserves those dates, I bet Mayweather doesn't even know the meaning of those dates and why they get celebrated, even if he could read I doubt he would read about Mexican history. So quit trying to act like he's some supporter of the Mexican community and they support him.

Canelo doesn't "deserve" s***!! Where the hell you get that from? He had his opportunity, all he had to do was win, and he would've been the biggest draw in the sport. He could've dictated and chosen whatever dates he wanted. But he got schooled, and therefore he can't maneuver Floyd out of date just because of his heritage.

And you're right (shocking), Floyd chooses Mexicans and Puerto Ricans because they pay to see him lose, but also because they have the biggest fanbase for smaller divisions. Simple, it's called business. It's the same reason Arum always has a Puerto Rican go against a Mexican if he can help it. Blacks in general haven't supported the sport as much as Latinos since the heavyweight division fell off. The biggest "name" outside of Mayweather who happens to be black is Bradley or Broner.

You were already proven WRONG on two accounts TODAY. Why are you even trying to say I'm wrong?

Show me where I'm wrong about Mayweather wanting to make this fight fair for all parties involved without having Pac give in to his ridiculous demands.

Once again, and something you never answered, is why was it ok for De La Hoya to have all these stipulations to fight Floyd but it's not ok for Floyd to dictate to anyone else? Actually you did answer, you said it was cool because it was all in the contract before the fight. Well....if Paq wants to fight so bad, get in the ring and fight. He wants to do commercials and run on Twitter and all this other nonsense, then shut up and make the fight, no matter what the demands are.

I don't want to hear about all this other **** because 4 years ago when the fight was on the table all he had to do was take the random testing, and he refused. Somehow that gets forgotten with all you Paq sack swingers, the fight didn't happen on at least one occasion for no other reason than Manny's "fear" of needles, something so ridiculous I would make him jump through hoops to get a match now too.

The problem is this idea (and Arum/Paq's own delusions) that Manny and Floyd are on the same level. They're not. There's no real negotiation that needs to take place here, Manny should just shut his mouth and sign a contract or leave it alone. He's already pleading for Floyd to slug it out with him, he must know he can't win a boxing match, which as Floyd pointed out, is the proper name for the sport. Boxing, not slugging smh.

Julio Cesar Chavez made Cinco de Mayo and Mexican Independance days into boxing holidays. Oscar De La Hoya followed suit and made it bigger with PPV. Mayweather is just piggy backing off of them. He claims he's the #1 attraction, fight on MLK day, Memorial Day or July 4th.

No, he isn't piggybacking anything, he got in the ring and beat Oscar and took the top position in the sport, the same thing Canelo could've did. But he got beat, easily, the same way your hero Paq will if he ever gets inside the ring. And after that, hopefully you'll find something else to rage about...