WormyT said:Singer turned THEE icon of masculinity into a dumb, shy, crybaby wimp.
He had no screen presence, little to no dialogue (even though hes the title character) and the suit looked like it was made with shiny showercurtains with a tupperwear Shield and fisherprise plastic belt.
He failed. The Nerve of him to add a Superchild and NOT add a single heavy hitting Supervillain after 20 years. Even if he only had luthor a comic like All Star Superman and Superman:Birthright have Luthor written so much better with superb dialolgue, plot interaction between hero and nemisis.
After 20 years we were rewarded with 1 line of dialogue between Superman and Luthor. 20 years!! The reason? maybe Brandon can't act? Wow, well thats reassuring for the sequel.
Uch! SR is just a really bad Superman movie, i can't believe a single male could settle on such mediocrity.
Theres no Superman Curse, theres only bad decisions made by the execs at WB. You guys did GOOD by hiring Bruce Tim for the animated show, now you need to hire someone like Peter Jackson for director and someone familiar with Superman books for a screenwriter and give us a Superman movie that blows away Spidey2 and batman begins. It's certainly possible, just not with Singer and his Dull, feminine, narrow and lackluster tv quality vision.
AVEITWITHJAMON said:What the **** do any of those have to do with Luthor becoming President. At least the things in SR COULD happen in the real world.
Kid_Kaos said:??????????????????????????????
--> OFFICIAL MIND MELTDOWN
With Superman Returns breaking $200 Million domestically and a worldwide gross of over $390 million, Warner Bros. is moving forward with the sequel.
Weeks before the DVD has its grandiose release, the IESB has learned that Bryan Singer has finalized a deal to move forward with the sequel this past weekend and the studio is planning to start production sometime next fall, possibly next September. When the IESB contacted a studio rep for comments we got this response - Warner Bros. does not comment on projects that are in development. A few calls later, other studio insiders confirmed that the deal was finalized last week and the team that brought Superman Returns to theaters earlier this year will return for the sequel.
We have been told that a couple of things are for certain. For one, the sequel will have a slightly smaller budget. Returns budget was approximately $208 million dollars with P&A (prints and ads) of about $50 million putting it at around $260. The sequel is expected to be around $140-175 million plus marketing.
Second, more action, tons more action is expected this time around. The studio was quite happy with the way Supes was reintroduced to the world and next time around expect to see him in full action battle mode. Weve been told that Superman will have the battle of his life in the sequel and audiences can expect one of the ultimate baddies in the D.C. universe to come to Metropolis to pick a fight with the Man of Steel.
Second, more action, tons more action is expected this time around.
Weve been told that Superman will have the battle of his life in the sequel and audiences can expect one of the ultimate baddies in the D.C. universe to come to Metropolis to pick a fight with the Man of Steel.
The sequel is expected to be around $140-175 million plus marketing.
matrix_ghost said:Dang you beat me to it . I was just about to post that
Well it's still not OFFICIAL confirmation but at least we know some more facts.
This is reassuring t: :
And this isn't :
Not to a bit annoying but given the epic scale of the CG sequences in a superman movie , i hardly think that 140 million dollar is appropriate.
To give you an example , Spiderman 1 had a budget of around 140 million and the CG sequences did pale in comparison to Spiderman 2 which had a budget of 200 million.
Or is this again the case of what Brian Singer did with SR where they greenlit the movie at around 180 million and then afterwards added CG sequences that cost more and ultimately the budget rose to 200 million .
ANyways , happy that things are moving forward and that this time they'll introduce a classic DC villain
NAY for Zod
YAy for Brainiac ......or Doomsday t:
cuting out a 10 milions scene ?matrix_ghost said:People , People !
I'll repeat my words again :
Singer may be doing the same thing he did on the first movie. Which is greenlighting the movie on a smaller budget and then afterwards insert the VFX sequences that he had to remove so that movie could be made.
And let's not forget that the words of Guilleromo Del Toro who will make a HellBoy sequel for the same budget as the first HellBoy movie.
Amazing ....yes consedering that the sequel of HellBoy 2 will have bigger action scenes.
So yes , it's not unlikely the smaller budget and more action won't go.
Besides at least you know that a certain 10 million dollar scene of the first movie will be in this one.
Return to Krypton scenes means that 10 million dollars of the VFX can be spent on something else t:
Sure it helps, but creating a new pre-viz office with 20 people working on SR only isn't so cost efficient.J.Howlett said:Well, pre-viz is very important for films such as these. I don't see the pre-viz department going anywhere. It does save money when you have certain sequences (action wise) already pre-viz to help out the production.
Sure, but you usually go to a company that does pre-viz, hire them for a month or so, give them the storyboards and they do (for a reasonable price) all the work. You don't buy 20 computers and hire 20 persons for months to work on a single project.J.Howlett said:You still have to have the department working in the sequel. I wouldn't go into any film of this size, with complex action sequences without a pre-viz department planning out these sequences.