First Avenger The Official Captain America Box Office Thread!

[Spider-Fan]

Wasn't that the same for First Class praised by critics and in media but was a total dud in the Box Office, I am not saying Cap isn't going to flop like GL but it isn't going to be a Box Office Hit like Inception or Iron Man

Who is saying that it will be

I think it's going to make more than First Class, but even if it did FC #'s, for a movie on Cap's 140mil budget, that is good.

 

[Superhero 101]

Who is saying that it will be

The Poll

 

[Spider-Fan]

The Poll

That poll has been up for over a year, man. Most of those votes were probably made last year.

 

[paulogonza]

I think cap can be surprise, HP is very frontload, see the other HP movies, almost every drop very hard the second weekend

 

[KangConquers]

Wasn't that the same for First Class praised by critics and in media but was a total dud in the Box Office, I am not saying Cap isn't going to flop like GL but it isn't going to be a Box Office Hit like Inception or Iron Man

"Total dud"? It's heading for 350 Million worldwide on probably 200 Million in spending including marketing (post tax return). That's not a total dud at all.

 

[TheVileOne]

Compared to previous movies in the franchise it is not very good.

I think the marketing campaign of this movie should be a lot stronger. For example, we should be seeing pushes of Ultimate Avengers with Cap and Cap featured episodes of Avengers on TV.

I also think it too way too long to see the first trailer. The Super Bowl spot was good but I think we should've already gotten a teaser trailer last year. I feel like they waited too long like Incredible Hulk.

 

[hatebox]

The marketing has been extremely tentative for this film. They need to blitz it from here on in to make it worth a damn.

 

[hatebox]

They're predicting $170 M domestic total for Cap...I can live with that. I'd prefer 200 M+, but $170 will get us to a sequel.

$170m would only get Cap a sequel if its international take is significantly stronger. And given it doesn't have the fantasy elements of Thor that could be a big ask, but we'll see.

 

[KangConquers]

Like I said, people are vastly underestimating Cap's foreign gross. This isn't the first film to ever feature flag waving etc. GO USA movies have done well in the foreign box office before. Besides, tracking has gone up 6 million dollars since yesterday. Who knows what it'll be at in 2 weeks.


In the event that Cap doesn't do that hot (read: less than 350 M), Marvel will probably be able to do a sequel in the first week of May 2014, based on

1. If the DVD sells/ rents well (which I believe it will, if it's as well reviewed as everyone seems to think it will be.)
2. The reasonable explanation that it was a new franchise facing down the biggest grossing franchise of all time. A much less competitive slot could yield higher grosses.
3. If Avengers is huge, Cap will definitely get another solo shot.

 

[Spider-Fan]

What's tracking at now?

 

[hatebox]

Like I said, people are vastly underestimating Cap's foreign gross. This isn't the first film to ever feature flag waving etc. GO USA movies have done well in the foreign box office before. Besides, tracking has gone up 6 million dollars since yesterday. Who knows what it'll be at in 2 weeks.

The flag waving isn't such a big deal, but from foreigners' point of view this may come across as another generic superhero movie which is something that has rarely fared well on the international circuit. But if it's good it can breakout, so I await reviews with interest.

 

[TheVileOne]

The problem is that the movie is due out in only a little over 2 weeks. Not much more time for much of a blitz. Harry Potter is getting all the July spotlight now that Transformers 3D has come. Cap is sort of getting lost in the shuffle unfortunately.

 

[KangConquers]

The problem is that the movie is due out in only a little over 2 weeks. Not much more time for much of a blitz. Harry Potter is getting all the July spotlight now that Transformers 3D has come. Cap is sort of getting lost in the shuffle unfortunately.

Overseas it has a staggered release date...that means in most markets it won't face Potter. There's still plenty of room for this film to make a lot of money.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

The Spider-Man movies didn't have any problems making money and there was plenty of flag waving.

 

[Spideyfan93]

I have a gut feeling this will be the most successful comic book film of the year and I believe it will be a blockbuster.

This film has qualities everyone of all ages can enjoy. And it's humane. X-Men and Thor were good movies but nothing special. And Green Lantern...sucked. I wanted it to be good but it...yeah...


This won't make Iron Man numbers but it will be a blockbuster.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Not that I'm trying to compare C.A to Spider-Man in popularity and boxoffice. But the international audiences will ignore flag waving if they like the movie. Now I'm still thinking 200mil int at best (my prediction is like 140 to 180mil right now).

The reviews will tell whats what. First Class didn't benefit from good reviews because it's apart of an on going franchise which already has it's audience locked down pat. Cap has no such henderences.

 

[TheVileOne]

Look at the Transformers movies and those are God awful .

But I think that just shows that all the fear of patriotism and American flag waving propaganda jingoism whatever is unfounded nonsense and BS.

This movie should've come out July 4th weekend instead of the Transformers garbage.

I'm not saying the movie won't make money. I'm just a little disappointed with how the campaign has been handled so far. And I'm extremely nervous after what happened with Green Lantern which had Warner Bros. throwing tons of money at it.

I'm worried that the comic book movie/superhero phase is sort of dying and now we are seeing the result of that.

 

[Spider-Vader]

Wasn't that the same for First Class praised by critics and in media but was a total dud in the Box Office, I am not saying Cap isn't going to flop like GL but it isn't going to be a Box Office Hit like Inception or Iron Man

First Class didn't do so well at the box office because it's a "weird" prequel to what was becoming a stale franchise. Plus, it didn't have the most popular X-Men character in a prominent role which might of turned off some of the general audience. Honesty, I thought the movie was going to be bad before the reviews came out. I assume the GA thought the same & didn't pay attention to the reviews. As for Cap, it's the start to a potential new franchise based on a recognizable character. I'm not saying it'll do amazing numbers, but there's a chance that it could.

 

[Spider-Fan]

It's not dying. Thor did well, FC did alright and GL flopped. Are we judging the genre as dying because none of them were giant monsters? None of them were going to be. Thor was a tougher sell than IM his first go, but still did well. FC followed 2 poor films in that series, and the X-films typically don't make anymore than 400 WW. GL was a bonified flop, but look at the movie.

People have to realize Iron Man was a fluke. Characters on Iron Man's popularity level won't all debut at 550-600 WW. It just won't happen. That can only be done by select company. Iron Man doing that was a fluke. Considering that, the genre is doing fine.

 

[TheVileOne]

It might've followed two poor films but both were far more successful.

How was Iron Man a fluke now though? Was The Dark Knight a fluke too?

 

[Spider-Vader]

I meant that the X-Men series was becoming stale. Exactly for the reason you said so, it followed two crappy movie. Though, I think the fact that everyone's favorite cigar chomping Canadian was barely in it, scared off some of the GA.

I think Thor did pretty good for a movie that probably seemed to have a weird concept to the GA.

Iron Man was a fluke because the character was a low B-lister before his movie, he wasn't a big character like Spider-Man or Batman. Though, that's very different nowadays.

 

[TheVileOne]

So what does that make Captain America? Is he a B-lister?

 

[Spider-Fan]

It might've followed two poor films but both were far more successful.

How was Iron Man a fluke now though? Was The Dark Knight a fluke too?

TDK was a beast, but remember, BB wasn't. TDK was also a sequel to a movie that people by and large liked (though didn't make a ton at the BO). Iron Man is a fluke because 1st films in a franchise normally don't do as well as it did. That is a fluke. Only people like Spider-Man can boast that. If you expected Thor and Cap to do that, you were fooling yourself.

 

[Spideyfan93]

I think Dunkin Donut's promotion for Cap was a great idea.


I've seen so many Cap cups with iced coffee and such lately. And America runs on Dunkin
That increases B.O. predictions.

 

[TheVileOne]

TDK was a beast, but remember, BB wasn't. TDK was also a sequel to a movie that people by and large liked (though didn't make a ton at the BO). Iron Man is a fluke because 1st films in a franchise normally don't do as well as it did. That is a fluke. Only people like Spider-Man can boast that. If you expected Thor and Cap to do that, you were fooling yourself.

Umm . . . the first Spider-Man movie? The first Batman movie? Superman? Pirates of The Carribbean? Sherlock Holmes?