The Official Green Lantern Rumors/Speculation Thread - Part 1

[brainchild81]

In what way does making Hal the focus again(which will not be the case) mean it's going to be horrible and flop again? The 2011 movie being a flop had nothing to do with who the focus character was. You'd be surprised about Hal's fans, lots of them have no issues with him sharing the spotlight with other characters, what they don't want is for him to play a secondary role in the movie.

As a Hal fan, you want what you think is best for him and you don't wanna see him play second fiddle to anybody. I get that. It's understandable. If that report of the main writer wanting Hal to be the focus is to be believed, none of us know whether he'll be the focus or not. I know GJ is a hardcore Hal fanboy so him wanting that wouldn't suprise me. I'm not guaranteeing that if Hal's the focus that it will be a horrible flop, but I fully expect it to be. I figured that the non-comicbook fans (many of whom grew up w/John as THE GL on JL) wouldn't care for it & it would suck and flop last time & it did. Nothing has happened since then to make me think otherwise.

 

[KalvinEllis]

As a Hal fan, you want what you think is best for him and you don't wanna see him play second fiddle to anybody. I get that. It's understandable. If that report of the main writer wanting Hal to be the focus is to be believed, none of us know whether he'll be the focus or not. I know GJ is a hardcore Hal fanboy so him wanting that wouldn't suprise me. I'm not guaranteeing that if Hal's the focus that it will be a horrible flop, but I fully expect it to be. I figured that the non-comicbook fans (many of whom grew up w/John as THE GL on JL) wouldn't care for it & it would suck and flop last time & it did. Nothing has happened since then to make me think otherwise.

That's fine. To me the success or failure of a comic book movie depends on the story and the marketing, not on which particular version of a legacy character happens to show up. I think the vast majority of the average moviegoers don't have a clue about names like Hal Jordan or John Stewart, or what a Green Lantern Corps is supposed to be. As for Geoff Johns, I believe if he truly wanted to have a solo Hal movie, he would've already tried to do so back when he was still co-running the DCEU. The buddy cop thing was announced when Johns was still "in charge", so for him to want a solo Hal flick now when he's not a decision maker anymore but just a writer, seems really far-fetched to me. Not to mention that, given WB's history with writers in the DCEU, even if Johns did produce a script with Hal as the main star, there's zero guarantee that WB would either greenlight it or preserve it the way it is. I personally think that whatever Johns ends up writing will most likely not be what we end up seeing in theaters, if that movie even manages to get off the ground.

 

[brainchild81]

That's fine. To me the success or failure of a comic book movie depends on the story and the marketing, not on which particular version of a legacy character happens to show up. I think the vast majority of the average moviegoers don't have a clue about names like Hal Jordan or John Stewart, or what a Green Lantern Corps is supposed to be. As for Geoff Johns, I believe if he truly wanted to have a solo Hal movie, he would've already tried to do so back when he was still co-running the DCEU. The buddy cop thing was announced when Johns was still "in charge", so for him to want a solo Hal flick now when he's not a decision maker anymore but just a writer, seems really far-fetched to me. Not to mention that, given WB's history with writers in the DCEU, even if Johns did produce a script with Hal as the main star, there's zero guarantee that WB would either greenlight it or preserve it the way it is. I personally think that whatever Johns ends up writing will most likely not be what we end up seeing in theaters, if that movie even manages to get off the ground.

I'd say there are many factors involved when it comes to success or failure. I remember a lot of talk about whitewashing from people who weren't familiar with the comics. Marketing and story are important, but having a bad buzz due to perceived whitewashing certainly didn't help things. You don't want any type of bad buzz when you're trying to start a film franchise for a property that's relatively unknown to the general audience to begin with. For GJohns, we're not sure if he had that kind of power to just force a Hal film into existence over an understandably cautious WB. I can totally see WB pushing for the inclusion of John Stewart after what happened to Hal's last film

 

[KalvinEllis]

I'd say there are many factors involved when it comes to success or failure. I remember a lot of talk about whitewashing from people who weren't familiar with the comics. Marketing and story are important, but having a bad buzz due to perceived whitewashing certainly didn't help things. You don't want any type of bad buzz when you're trying to start a film franchise for a property that's relatively unknown to the general audience to begin with. For GJohns, we're not sure if he had that kind of power to just force a Hal film into existence over an understandably cautious WB. I can totally see WB pushing for the inclusion of John Stewart after what happened to Hal's last film

I think the only people really who were talking about whitewashing was the reactionary outrage brigade. They do not represent the general moviegoing audience, though they certainly like to pretend they do. Otherwise I wouldn't say there was bad buzz other than for the VFX and CGI costume that looked ugly right off the bat, but one of the reasons it was a notoriously shocking flop was because it was very anticipated. And of course WB is a business, so it make much more sense for them want different Lanterns catered to different demographics this time around. That's where all the Jessica Cruz rumors are coming from as well. But we'll see what happens, like I mentioned when all is said and done, I doubt Geoff Johns would have much of an influence on this project at all.

 

[Lantern Venom]

I think the only people really who were talking about whitewashing was the reactionary outrage brigade. They do not represent the general moviegoing audience, though they certainly like to pretend they do. Otherwise I wouldn't say there was bad buzz other than for the VFX and CGI costume that looked ugly right off the bat, but one of the reasons it was a notoriously shocking flop was because it was very anticipated. And of course WB is a business, so it make much more sense for them want different Lanterns catered to different demographics this time around. That's where all the Jessica Cruz rumors are coming from as well. But we'll see what happens, like I mentioned when all is said and done, I doubt Geoff Johns would have much of an influence on this project at all.

Over the last few years, I've noticed that Jessica has gotten more collectibles and spots on animated projects than the other Lanterns. I get the sense that someone at DC and/or WB is making her a priority. I don't know if it's GJ exerting influence or WB is sensing her appeal to young girls, but I have a feeling that her role in DC movies, if WB does push forward with them, will be substantial.

On the flip side, neither of the recent GL titles sold well. Hal Jordan and the Green Lantern Corps featured all 4 of the classic titular Lanterns, but that didn't make it a great seller. Likewise, Green Lanterns featured Jessica and Simon, but that didn't make it fly off the shelves either. Even Geoff Johns' harshest critics admit that the buzz around the GL franchise hasn't been the same since he left.

 

[Chris B]

I know I'm likely in the minority on this, but if it were up to me, I would start off focusing on just Hal and even retell his origin in spite of the 2011 film, which did a poor job with that aspect anyway. His story still serves as the best entry point for the franchise IMO, and I think they should keep it simple and build up towards the introduction of the likes of John, Guy, etc. myself.

 

[Aurakles]

An interesting way to do it might be to have Hal recruiting and training John, with flashbacks to Sinestro training Hal.

 

[Rorschach2012]

I find it hard to believe they would throw another 200 mil to make a Green Lantern movie. It's time to just do a tv show in the Arrowverse. Give it a Star Trek Beyond budget, or something comparable and they could pull it off.

 

[Iceman]

I think it would be worth the risk if they went all out with a GL Corps and paid up for a top team.

 

[Rorschach2012]

Its time for a Green Lantern tv show

- the character has clearly taken a backseat at WB. No appearance in JL was a huge insult. A new GL movie ain’t comin any time soon
- the last film was a huge critical and commercial failure
- the DCEU for most part has been a critical and commercial disappointment. I can’t imagine they’d want to take a risk like this while their empire is so weak
- Geoff Johns was demoted, despite what the press release would have you believe, and the GLC movie is his baby. I can see him being one of the only guys at WB really pushing for this movie
- WB needs to take risks, but more creative risks versus financial risks. Think about Joker. That’s a stand-alone film based on a beloved character and it’s set at a tiny budget. That’s gonna make a killing, and it’s creatively fresh.
- GL has a better chance at succeeding on television than on the big screen. Audiences have already been burned big time on the character, and for a movie to succeed, they’re going to have to spend a ton of money to make that movie look good. A lot of the appeal of a GL movie is the visuals and that means $$$. The expectations for visuals are lower on tv, and sci-fi television shows get away with a lot more than the movies. They could focus on character and story.
- Hal Jordan’s best friends (Barry and Ollie) are the two main characters in the Arrowverse. It’s a no brainer. He’d fit right in. Sign Jensen Ackles up after Supernatural wraps up and let him hang with Gustin and Amell.

The Orville is pulling it off, I can’t imagine GL would need much bigger of a budget than that show. Keep the characters nerfed a bit and they’ll be fine

 

[2kt09]

Its time for a Green Lantern tv show

- the character has clearly taken a backseat at WB. No appearance in JL was a huge insult. A new GL movie ain’t comin any time soon
- the last film was a huge critical and commercial failure
- the DCEU for most part has been a critical and commercial disappointment. I can’t imagine they’d want to take a risk like this while their empire is so weak
- Geoff Johns was demoted, despite what the press release would have you believe, and the GLC movie is his baby. I can see him being one of the only guys at WB really pushing for this movie
- WB needs to take risks, but more creative risks versus financial risks. Think about Joker. That’s a stand-alone film based on a beloved character and it’s set at a tiny budget. That’s gonna make a killing, and it’s creatively fresh.
- GL has a better chance at succeeding on television than on the big screen. Audiences have already been burned big time on the character, and for a movie to succeed, they’re going to have to spend a ton of money to make that movie look good. A lot of the appeal of a GL movie is the visuals and that means $$$. The expectations for visuals are lower on tv, and sci-fi television shows get away with a lot more than the movies. They could focus on character and story.
- Hal Jordan’s best friends (Barry and Ollie) are the two main characters in the Arrowverse. It’s a no brainer. He’d fit right in. Sign Jensen Ackles up after Supernatural wraps up and let him hang with Gustin and Amell.

The Orville is pulling it off, I can’t imagine GL would need much bigger of a budget than that show. Keep the characters nerfed a bit and they’ll be fine

-the longer the wait, the bigger the payoff
-don't be Iron Man
-a GL movie is as doable as Warcraft movie
-I've been told that's a good thing
-agreed, so it shouldn't be anything like WW
-based off of Aquaman, they should be able to spend less than Ant-Man & the Wasp, apparently
-The DCW has enough of a GL budget to appear as "frequently" as Firestorm. Supernatural is like whatever neverending series still on air atm...that'll be the day!

A GL show to level of Orville seems like a whole lot more would be nerfed

 

[Gamma Goliath]

I could see a GL Corps story being this really big sprawling story that spans over like 6 movies with LoTR (no pun intended) style epic storytelling. The rise and fall of hal jordan and sinestro. Return of hal, fall of the green lanterns. Theres plenty that could be done with a well thought out film franchise.

 

[Rorschach2012]

I could see a GL Corps story being this really big sprawling story that spans over like 6 movies with LoTR (no pun intended) style epic storytelling. The rise and fall of hal jordan and sinestro. Return of hal, fall of the green lanterns. Theres plenty that could be done with a well thought out film franchise.

I agree. A trilogy is the minimum.

Why can't we have GL in the Arrowverse and a movie series? That'd be ideal.

 

[Manasrepublic]

I would rather them do a multi-starrer film and intro 2-3 co-leads together. It would be a fresh take on it

 

[Iceman]

I could see a GL Corps story being this really big sprawling story that spans over like 6 movies with LoTR (no pun intended) style epic storytelling. The rise and fall of hal jordan and sinestro. Return of hal, fall of the green lanterns. Theres plenty that could be done with a well thought out film franchise.

Sounds great. And I love that pun.

 

[Iceman]

I would rather them do a multi-starrer film and intro 2-3 co-leads together. It would be a fresh take on it

I would definitely prefer that this time around.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

In my interpretation it would definitely be focused on the corps and not just one lantern

 

[Iceman]

In my interpretation it would definitely be focused on the corps and not just one lantern

I need the Corps this time. They can cycle who they focus on but that is the most epic way to go.

 

[Aurakles]

I'd rather there wasn't a universe level threat the whole corps needs to deal with.
I want them to act more like a police force than an army, each with their own beat, their own cases, their own stories.
Yes those cases are cosmic, involve interplanetary wars, gigantic space monsters and saving entire civilisations, but those are the kind of things a single GL can deal with.
I love the idea of Hal or John or whoever, after their first adventure, facing crazy odds and saving a dozen planets from some huge threat, come back to Oa to report in. But Kilowog and the other GL are dismissive, they do that kind of thing everyday, it's nothing to brag about. This is just the scale these guys operate on.

 

[Lantern Venom]

In my interpretation it would definitely be focused on the corps and not just one lantern

That's definitely the way to go. I'm hopeful that if and when a GLC movie arrives, it will also make better use of the framework of GL, ie OA, the GotU, the rebellion/exile of the Manhunters, the Controllers, etc...

 

[Tg11]

An interesting way to do it might be to have Hal recruiting and training John, with flashbacks to Sinestro training Hal.

I would take this approach too

 

[Greenlite]

Lord and miller? They did shoot the Solo movie and Spidey sounds great.

Any update on Johns' script?

AM probably pushed GLC into the top priority list for WB lol, big scale fantasy+diversity

 

[MbJ]

Watching Birdbox solidified it for me. They really should get Trevante Rhodes involved. I've been a fan since Moonlight, but he really killed it here.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

If he doesn't get the John Stewart role I wouldn't mind if marvel picked him up for blade

 

[Iceman]

Lord and miller? They did shoot the Solo movie and Spidey sounds great.

Any update on Johns' script?

AM probably pushed GLC into the top priority list for WB lol, big scale fantasy+diversity

It could be a huge scale film. I hope they see how much sense this makes asap.