Sequels The Official "How YOU would do Spider-Man 4" thread

[chaseter]

No one liked my idea about Dr. Venopus? It combined two of the best elements of the movies: the symbiote, and Dr. Octopus. It also featured Kraven with a cliffhanger leading into the Lizard.

No, no one liked it

 

[BatSpider]

Am I the only one here who DOESNT want Carnage?

 

[I Am The Knight]

Venopus? Ugh, I thought I had left the Dragonball boards.

 

[thejon93]

No one liked my idea about Dr. Venopus? It combined two of the best elements of the movies: the symbiote, and Dr. Octopus. It also featured Kraven with a cliffhanger leading into the Lizard.

Some screwed-up people we've got on these forums, huh?...

 

[RAMORE]

How about this since they are talking about filming two at once.

Dr. Connors does the whole Lizard thing and Spidey is trying to catch and help cause he knows who it is. But he's getting his but handed to him. While dealing with MJ Leaving him she's not ready and she takes off. Cue Gwen helping him get through that.

Then Kraven and crocodile hunter like character (only deadly serious he has a camera crew follow him on big hunts many of them have been killed but he always makes it out and gets the kill) announces he's coming to new york to hunt the Lizard character who's been terrorizing the city.

Now Spidey has to deal with Kraven fighting him to not kill the Lizard and fighting the lizard without killing him.

In the end he succeeds in restoring the Doc much to the bane of Kraven because on live tv spiderman best him and then turns on the lizard they look like they fall to their death or something but he saves doc restores him and takes his tail which had been pulled off in battle back as proof he's killed the monster (so kraven will stop hunting). Roll credits.

Open spidey 5 him and Gwen are great they are together and loving life. Spidey deals with some minor baddies life just seems to good...because it is. He keeps feeling like he's being watched. Kraven can't handle that he was beaten, hunt stolen from him. So he decides to impersonate spiderman and then kill him. This is basically the Kraven's last hunt storyline from the comics.

The only twist is that Kraven finds out Peter is spiderman and of course uses gwen to lure him into the fight she dies somehow during the battle along with Kraven who commits suicide.


Now I know that Green Goblin should have killed Gwen but Raimi and Sony screwed us and continuity from the beginning so this is the best way to rectify that I think....Thoughts?

 

[American_Hobo]

Am I the only one here who DOESNT want Carnage?

I dont think youre the only one. Lots of people dont want Carnage for some reason.
But I sure as hell want Carnage to be in. I want either return of Venom or Carnage in Spiderman4 (that is of course, if Raimi really tries to understand the symbiote characters and use them properly

 

[Hectorminator]

How about this since they are talking about filming two at once.

Dr. Connors does the whole Lizard thing and Spidey is trying to catch and help cause he knows who it is. But he's getting his but handed to him. While dealing with MJ Leaving him she's not ready and she takes off. Cue Gwen helping him get through that.

Then Kraven and crocodile hunter like character (only deadly serious he has a camera crew follow him on big hunts many of them have been killed but he always makes it out and gets the kill) announces he's coming to new york to hunt the Lizard character who's been terrorizing the city.

Now Spidey has to deal with Kraven fighting him to not kill the Lizard and fighting the lizard without killing him.

In the end he succeeds in restoring the Doc much to the bane of Kraven because on live tv spiderman best him and then turns on the lizard they look like they fall to their death or something but he saves doc restores him and takes his tail which had been pulled off in battle back as proof he's killed the monster (so kraven will stop hunting). Roll credits.

Open spidey 5 him and Gwen are great they are together and loving life. Spidey deals with some minor baddies life just seems to good...because it is. He keeps feeling like he's being watched. Kraven can't handle that he was beaten, hunt stolen from him. So he decides to impersonate spiderman and then kill him. This is basically the Kraven's last hunt storyline from the comics.

The only twist is that Kraven finds out Peter is spiderman and of course uses gwen to lure him into the fight she dies somehow during the battle along with Kraven who commits suicide.


Now I know that Green Goblin should have killed Gwen but Raimi and Sony screwed us and continuity from the beginning so this is the best way to rectify that I think....Thoughts?

I like some of this. The problem is the bolded stuff feels like it could go down within 45 minutes-an hour. I know there'd be more stuff to fill, but in the end, an entire Spider-Man movie would involve just those things happening, and I don't wanna wait for four years just for that.

Not enough things happen to Peter Parker to sustain my interest. I don't think the Lizard and Kraven, as cool as they are, are interesting enough to carry scenes of them talking about their plans (or in the case of the Lizard, just growling.) More important things need to happen to Pete in one movie.

Personally, I think Kraven's Last Hunt is the way to go in Spider-Man 4, it could all be done in one movie (with the reveal that Kraven stays alive at the end to join the Sinister Six in Spider-Man 6.) Kraven needs to come to NY because of the Lizard, yes, and he stays to hunt Spider-Man. The bit about him dressing up like Spidey because he's insane is awesome and original, it deserves to be in the next movie. And my idea involves basically replacing Vermin with Adrian Toomes, the Vulture, in a lesser role that sets up for Spider-Man 5 and the Sinister Six.

There are ways to rectify what Raimi and Co. did for the past three films, mostly what they set up in Spider-Man 3. But if Gwen needs to die, which she kinda does, it should either be Venom (makes sense in the movie universe if you can being Eddie Brock back) or Norman Osborn himself. Which you could also pretty easily being back. And should because, who else is gonna lead the Sinister Six? The Shocker? The Scorpion? The Spot?

 

[Hobgoblin]

Am I the only one here who DOESNT want Carnage?

No.

 

[smoothbody]

how about not do a part 4 at all!! just a thought!

 

[Visionary]

A stupid thought, when there's lots of money to be made.

 

[spiderral]

Am I the only one here who DOESNT want Carnage?

There's me!!! IMO I think it'd be a bit boring to have symbiotes all over again in Spider-Man 4 even though Carnage is way different than Venom, it's just that Spidey could go up against lost of other villians like Electro!!!
Plus, I'd like to Scorpion and the Shocker in a sequel, i'm not really bothered which one.

 

[Spider-Kid]

I dont think youre the only one. Lots of people dont want Carnage for some reason.
But I sure as hell want Carnage to be in. I want either return of Venom or Carnage in Spiderman4 (that is of course, if Raimi really tries to understand the symbiote characters and use them properly

dude Total agreement venom should definitly return!!

 

[I Am The Knight]

We're getting a Venom movie now, supposedly. No need for him to return in SM4.

 

[QWoods]

How i would do spidey 4-5

Vulture is the main villain. Martha and Billy Connors are introduced. Felicia Hardy is introduced. Flash Thompson is reintroduced.

Dr.Connors becomes the Lizard. He kills many some people and Captain Stacy is one of them.

Peter has moved out of the rotten apartment so there is no more Ursula and her father.

MaryJane is perfecting her acting career or is in modeling (i don't really care)

Throughout the film there is small scenes of Kraven first finding out about the Lizard in New York then him making his way to New York.

Flash takes Harry's place as Peter's bestfriend and Felicia is Flash's girlfriend.

Vulture or Lizard kills Gwen at the end of Spidey 4 and Spidey stops Vulture but Lizard is still loose and Kraven arrives in New York.

In Spidey 5 Kraven is hunting the Lizard.

Peter is mourning the loss of Gwen with MJ's help.

Felicia becomes Black Cat for some reason. There relationship helps Peter have fun and kind of get over the loss of Gwen.

I have very random ideas

 

[Chris Wallace]

Am I the only one here who DOESNT want Carnage?

NO!

 

[QWoods]

Carnage should be saved for Venom's movie who the hell else could they use. Anti-Venom LMATFO

 

[Finlandman]

How YOU would do Spider-Man 4?

I wouldn't make one. I'd wait sometime and then I'd start from the beginning.

 

[SodaPop]

I'd make Gwen the love interest, Bring in the Lizard, And also throw in Scorpion as a cliffhanger for part 5. I would delve into my reasons why, but i'm a horrible writer....

 

[Venom'sDad]

No one here has demonstrated any understanding or sound use of characters; yet alone, demonstrated any sense of how to tell a tale....

IMHO

 

[red hood 4]

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Bear with me here on this idea.

I think Electro,the Lizard and Eddie Brock as the villains.


List of battles

Spidey vs Lizard in the science lab it will then move ont the walls of the building.


Spidey vs Venom at the church from part 3


Spidey vs the lizard second encounter takes place in the sewers.

A spidey vs Electro fight inbetween

Final battle Spidey vs Lizard in the middle of the street

Final battle part 2 Venom vs Electro in the heavens lightining crashing around them in a artistic battle to top Hulk vs The Abomination.

Coming next characters.

 

[smoothbody]

How YOU would do Spider-Man 4?

I wouldn't make one. I'd wait sometime and then I'd start from the beginning.

yes,yes & yes!!!!!!!!

 

[protocida]

SPIDER-MAN 4:
Peter Parker is going threw a hard time. New York doesn't completelly trust him, Aunt May is weaker and weaker, Mary-Jane asked for a break and Gwen Stacy doesn't trust him. Peter decides to show her that he'll make up his mistakes, but she is really confused about what she shaw when Peter was controlled by the symbiont. Meanwhile, a reconized scientist, Dr. Adrian Toomes, is fired of a experimental eletric generator projet by his boss, Max Raxton. Angry, he builds himself an advance armos and calls himself "The Vulture", seeking revenge against Raxton. Attacking the conference organized to reveal to the world the generator, The Vulture is spoted by Peter, that was thaking pictures for the Daily Bugle. Spider-Man quickly shows up and get in to a fight with the new villain. During the showndown, the generator is accidently activated and causes an acident that reorganizes eletricist bystander Max Dillon, giving him extraordinary eletromagnetic powers. Tired of being a low-life, pathetic old chump, Max decides to take his chances and becomes a bank robber know as "The Electro". After defeating Spider-Man is a big fight, Electro atracts Vulture's attention, and they make a pact: Dillon helps Toomes to kill Raxton, Toomes helps Dillon to kill the Spider-Man and they share the money, 50% to each. Physically and mentally exausted, Peter must count with Captain George Stacy and detective Jean DeWolfe's help to defeat the insidiou duo and save New York.

 

[javphonic]

I like the idea of Electro being introduced, but I though it'd be nice if they included a lesser known villain as to have more creative control over the character-shrugs-

 

[Artistsean]

Not that my input would do anything but,
I would show Peter Parker and Mary Jane together and happy.
Show that they are living together, maybe even engaged, and are happy.
She is adjusting very well to being the wife of Spider-Man, and he is adjusting to being with Mary Jane. Things are fine with their relationship.
That way they can focus on other aspects of Peter's life.
I would like to have Aunt May find out that Peter is Spider-Man, like in the comics where she is looking at a beaten up Peter sleeping in his bed still wearing his tattered Spider-Man costume. (scene could be different but still same outcome.)
That would give the Aunt May character, and actress, more to do in the film.

Mary Jane would be harder, but give her something more to do than just be the damsel in distress.

I would have some villains not be connected to Peter Parker personally. I know that they do it intentionally, but that isn't always realistic. Spider-Man would more likely than not fight an enemy who has no connection to Peter.
The connections come later, as the villain keeps returning or discovers Spider-Man's secret identity.

I am sure i can think up more, but thats all I have right now.

 

[Rain]

Possibe ending

Have Kraven shoot Spider-Man with a supposedly poison dart,
bury him thinking he's dead, then go fight to the death with Lizard
Next do a close up on Spidey's tombstone and hear "thud thud thud"
And have spider-Man's fist burst out of the ground, cue theme music, roll credits

"TO BE CONTINUED..."