The Avengers The Official 'Hulk in Avengers' thread.

[Gamma Goliath]

That's awesome.

 

[Spider-Vader]

I remember the article you may be referring to only speculated that Marvel still had rights to Venom. I don't think they do though, but who knows? Wouldn't make much sense to me if Sony did not have the rights.

For real. How could they not have the rights after he was in 'Spider-Man 3'? Unless they found a loop hole. Inwhich, I would be extremely happy.

 

[topdog1]

This recent exchange at a Comic Con interview with Kevin Feige kind of made me sad...

When asked if he was currently in a "good place" with Edward Norton, Feige demurred and said, "ask him."

That doesn't sound like a ringing endorsement. Feige needs to suck it up and apologize. Norton was clearly right (judging by the brilliance of some of the deleted scenes in IH and by the final box office numbers) and Feige and Marvel was wrong. So, man up and beg Norton for another chance.

 

[scatterax]

This recent exchange at a Comic Con interview with Kevin Feige kind of made me sad...

When asked if he was currently in a "good place" with Edward Norton, Feige demurred and said, "ask him."

That doesn't sound like a ringing endorsement. Feige needs to suck it up and apologize. Norton was clearly right (judging by the brilliance of some of the deleted scenes in IH and by the final box office numbers) and Feige and Marvel was wrong. So, man up and beg Norton for another chance.

agreed.

 

[Aztec]

Norton was clearly right (judging by the brilliance of some of the deleted scenes in IH and by the final box office numbers) and Feige and Marvel was wrong.

As I've mentioned in the "Ed Norton" thread, I've seen the deleted scenes and there was no "brilliance" there. Just a whole bunch of "nothing special".

 

[Obi-Ron]

Except good moviemaking that would have given TIH the chance to have some decent characterization instead of just being about the effects.

 

[Aztec]

Except good moviemaking that would have given TIH the chance to have some decent characterization instead of just being about the effects.

You are free to your own opinion of course, but I was more than content with the character development in TIH. I think Norton did a great job. I watched the cut scenes and there was really not much to crow about there. The yoga scenes while interesting, were hardly crucial to his character; and the Samson conversation seemed very out of place with the rest of the film to me. I was really expecting that scene to be more coherent and meaningful than it was.

 

[dcHulk]

You are free to your own opinion of course, but I was more than content with the character development in TIH. I think Norton did a great job. I watched the cut scenes and there was really not much to crow about there. The yoga scenes while interesting, were hardly crucial to his character; and the Samson conversation seemed very out of place with the rest of the film to me. I was really expecting that scene to be more coherent and meaningful than it was.

I'll disagree with you overall as well. Ross' character was more one dimensional because of the cuts. Even the philosophical explanation of what scientists think they can do was cut, which was terrible editing. Because Samson's scenes were cut so much, relegating it to a worthless role, will need to be re-introduced now. There was more dramatic tension in Betty's house when it appears that Leonard is there. So I guess I have a different opinion, but Marvel screwed this up.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

This recent exchange at a Comic Con interview with Kevin Feige kind of made me sad...

When asked if he was currently in a "good place" with Edward Norton, Feige demurred and said, "ask him."

That doesn't sound like a ringing endorsement. Feige needs to suck it up and apologize. Norton was clearly right (judging by the brilliance of some of the deleted scenes in IH and by the final box office numbers) and Feige and Marvel was wrong. So, man up and beg Norton for another chance.

Totally agreed, doesnt sound like they have made up at all yet, but Fiege should just man up and admit he was wrong, I have no doubt the Norton cut was a better version of the movie so stop being a child Fiege and sort it out!

 

[Venom'sDad]

Is this scene that many of you speak, on the DVD? Or where can I see it?

 

[dcHulk]

Is this scene that many of you speak, on the DVD? Or where can I see it?

It depends on which version of the DVD you have, because the standard version has less deleted scenes than the three disc special edition. I think that the three disc special edition has the same number of deleted scenes that the blue ray has, but I'm not sure.

 

[FrostBite]

Well there is the rumor that Ed Norton will be coming back in Iron Man 2 for a cameo... don't know how much credibility there is to it though. Apparently it's by the same "insider" who said Stan Lee would play Larry King in Iron Man 2 interviewing Stark.

One can only hope that there is a chance ol' Eddy is coming back, after all, Ed didn't really seem as upset as people made it out to be.

Edit: Has anyone seen this with Feige? http://**************.com/fansites/notyetamovie/news/?a=8787

He worries me with Hulk's role in this film.

"I think we know. I think it's going to be Iron Man, Thor, Captain America, and Nick Fury. I think it's safe to assume that there will be some members of the Hulk universe in the film as well."

'cuse me? Hulk characters? ...Hulk isn't counted as one of the erm... 4 Avengers?

"Is the Hulk in it?"

"Zak Penn is outlining it as we speak, so we'll see."

Frostbite is not pleased with the abysmal treatment of the Hulk.

 

[Microchip]

Hulk had a good movie that was pretty successful at the box office, he should be in Avengers. If Norton won't come back, I can see why they wouldn't have him, but otherwise they should try for it.

 

[FrostBite]

Hulk had a good movie that was pretty successful at the box office, he should be in Avengers. If Norton won't come back, I can see why they wouldn't have him, but otherwise they should try for it.

Seriously. I don't like this uncertainty, there should be no uncertainty. Original member, had his own movie, Stark cameo at the end. Etc.

Why do I get the disturbing feeling Hulk is just going to show up and smash something, and they are going to either beat him or he'll get away with little to nothing to do with the movie except for people to go "OO! LOOK! HULK!"

-grumble-

 

[Aesop Rocks]

We still don't know if Bruce can even control it...

 

[Bruce Banner]

Well I read somewhere recently that Edward said that he was gonna leave it up to them to say whats going on with his future involvement. At the same time of he was not going to be in it wouldn't he just say so? He is being kinda hush hush about it. Why bother to keep avoiding the question if he isn't involved somehow?

Its known that Marvel and Edward had disagreements...but could it be that Marvel and Norton are pulling the something along the same lines as Lionsgate and Donnie Walhberg did for the Saw series?

To say there was some sort of dispute to be told of there lack of involvement and be surprised in theaters with his Detective Matthews making a return?

 

[Obi-Ron]

What I find kind of disconcerting is that both sides (Marvel/Norton) have said "ask the other guy" when asked about working relations between the two.

 

[Bruce Banner]

It does kinda suck how both sides are leaving it a mystery. But why bother waisting time with the trouble of having to keep dodging the question that most people want a answer to?

Is it that Norton might want to take a look first at what Zak Penn is writing?

 

[Betty Ross]

I'm just hoping that both sides are keeping mum in order to conceal a surprise (an appearance in Iron Man 2, maybe?). Kevin Feige can't keep his stories straight, and even Downey's avoiding Avengers and Hulk questions. Personally, I found Norton's statement to be a positive thing - if he had nothing to hide, why would he care how tight Marvel's "rein" on things is?

 

[Venom'sDad]

What I find kind of disconcerting is that both sides (Marvel/Norton) have said "ask the other guy" when asked about working relations between the two.

Well, I can see Norton saying that since it is up to Marvel.... however, it is disconcerting that Marvel would make that comment.

 

[Bruce Banner]

Personally, I found Norton's statement to be a positive thing - if he had nothing to hide, why would he care how tight Marvel's "rein" on things is?

Agreed thats the way I'm looking at it. I haven't really followed everything closely as of late. But your saying they are bugging stars of other franchises about this issue as well?

 

[FrostBite]

I'm just hoping that both sides are keeping mum in order to conceal a surprise (an appearance in Iron Man 2, maybe?). Kevin Feige can't keep his stories straight, and even Downey's avoiding Avengers and Hulk questions. Personally, I found Norton's statement to be a positive thing - if he had nothing to hide, why would he care how tight Marvel's "rein" on things is?

This is how I see it. If he really didn't want to be a part of it, and had decided on a big fat "Screw that!" then you'd think he'd just say: "No, I really don't think that'd be my sort of thing." or "I don't think I am going to be a part of the Hulk series anymore." or "Tell Marvel to eff off."

Instead we get a cryptic "No comment" as if he's not allowed to speak on it, and if he really didn't want to be a part of it... really, why would he CARE if Marvel wanted his involvement (or lack there of) a secret? Why would he let them spill the news? That just doesn't make any sense.

Then again, I am not saying he's coming back for sure, but one can hope.

 

[Hoblin]

Ah ha! So THIS is where all the Hulk fans are hiding out now. I haven't seen most of you guys since the last Hulk movie came out.

To be on topic...I hope beyond hope that Edward Norton AND the Hulk are in the Avengers movie. Or even in a bonus scene of Iron Man 2.

I find it sad that I now live in a world where there is even the slight possibility of there being an Avengers movie WITHOUT Hulk. That's ridiculous beyond words to me.

I'll still see the Avengers movie if it doesn't have Hulk in it, but I'm afraid I'd walk out a little disappointed. It'd be like making out with a girl in the dark (which is cool), and then the lights come on and you discover it's your sister (which is not cool).

Yeah, that analogy was kinda wonky...but whatever.

 

[Khemik@L]

Well I would be a lot disappointed. Sortah like buying a game and finding out it only have half the features of another game.

 

[FlawlessVictory]

This recent exchange at a Comic Con interview with Kevin Feige kind of made me sad...

When asked if he was currently in a "good place" with Edward Norton, Feige demurred and said, "ask him."

That doesn't sound like a ringing endorsement. Feige needs to suck it up and apologize. Norton was clearly right (judging by the brilliance of some of the deleted scenes in IH and by the final box office numbers) and Feige and Marvel was wrong. So, man up and beg Norton for another chance.

It frustrates me to no end that some of those deleted scenes were not included in the final cut of the movie. I still really like the movie but had a number of those scenes been included I would have no problem saying it was as good as or perhaps even better than Iron Man.

As I've mentioned in the "Ed Norton" thread, I've seen the deleted scenes and there was no "brilliance" there. Just a whole bunch of "nothing special".

There are a lot of great character moments in those deleted scenes that fleshes out those characters much more. Makes you care even more for them. Especially dialogue between Betty and Bruce, Betty and Thunderbolt and the phonecall from Doc Samson to Betty towards the end. Doc's insecurity of having Bruce stay in the house is shown(which would be a natural reaction) but he gives in for Betty and she thanks him. Touching scene. Also Bruce at dinner with both of them was nice to see as well. You can see the pain he is going through, I really felt bad for him. Those scenes are very important in making that a truly complete film.