Sequels The Official Kevin Spacey As Lex Luthor Thread

[superbaby]

So using alien technology is more evil than Nuclear weapons?

s'he called it sci-fi. you know... sci-fi? how cool.

 

[Pickle-El]

Guess again. He didn't use the kryptonian technology to intentionally kill people. What Lex cared about was the land created by the technology, and people just had to die for the land to be created. Luthor's intent in SR was to create land, but to create land, millions...no billions, had to die. Lex's motivation was to create land and real estate. And besides, if he just wanted to kill everyone, who's gonna buy his real estate?

You're not getting the big picture pickle!

I thought he had millions in the bank...wasn't that established in the beginning of the flick. He may have not had billions of dollars, but he was pretty well off wouldn't you say?

Come on, you saw how pissed Lex was when he finally got Supes where he wanted him...creating a replica of Krypton was a calculated low blow to the man of steel.

Why else would he make an island out of kryptonite? This was about killing Supes.....or killing millions of innocents. Either way, Supes was screwed. Lex was a meglomaniac. It's feast or famine with him. I think it's you who is missing the big picture.

"And that place I think I'll rent out...."

Yeah, he sounded really serious when he said that.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

That's one hell of a mistake. I'd just go with the excuse that it was a really crappy plot device thought up by hack writers. Makes more sense than selfishly stomping on the heart of the woman you love by mistake.

But its not just a small mistake, its a colossal mistake, one only an emotionally immature person could make. So, I guess he is not emotionally mature/strong enough to say goodbye yet he sure has no trouble sleeping with her. How dense does one have be to be to not realize the great amount of pain you would cause a loved one by suddenly disappearing for over 4 years without even saying a word. He had to have known it would have caused an extreme amount of pain for Lois. But yet, he does not say anything to her because it was too difficult for him?! I'm sorry but this is so lame and so out of character for Superman. The writers wanted to create drama for Superman, one in which he could not physically fight back, but in doing so they totally compromised his character.

I didnt say it was a small mistake, it was a biggy no doubt, but IMO he pays for, and learns from it.

I thought he had millions in the bank...wasn't that established in the beginning of the flick. He may have not had billions of dollars, but he was pretty well off wouldn't you say?

Come on, you saw how pissed Lex was when he finally got Supes where he wanted him...creating a replica of Krypton was a calculated low blow to the man of steel.

Why else would he make an island out of kryptonite? This was about killing Supes.....or killing millions of innocents. Either way, Supes was screwed. Lex was a meglomaniac. It's feast or famine with him. I think it's you who is missing the big picture.

"And that place I think I'll rent out...."

Yeah, he sounded really serious when he said that.

I think there was definately an element of revenge in LL's plan, what could be more offensive to Supes than destroying and bastardising 2 things he loves?

 

[Showtime]

Guess again. He didn't use the kryptonian technology to intentionally kill people. What Lex cared about was the land created by the technology, and people just had to die for the land to be created. Luthor's intent in SR was to create land, but to create land, millions...no billions, had to die. Lex's motivation was to create land and real estate. And besides, if he just wanted to kill everyone, who's gonna buy his real estate?

You're not getting the big picture pickle!

Actually you're both wrong, if you want get technical Lex's motivations are money and revenge.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^Well yeah, hence why i said there was an ELEMENT of revenge in Lex's plan.

 

[Showtime]

^Well yeah, hence why i said there was an ELEMENT of revenge in Lex's plan.

I wasn't including you in the both.

 

[Mr. Socko]

Actually you're both wrong, if you want get technical Lex's motivations are money and revenge.

money comes from selling land *wink*wink*


therefore I am 50% right

 

[Showtime]

money comes from selling land *wink*wink*


therefore I am 50% right

Nope. Money and revenge are his motivations. Individually they equal 50% of his motivation. There is no room.

 

[VenomsMom]

He was using Kryptonian technology to kill people.....it's a little more sci-fi than the 'he wanted land'. He perversed the technology of a civilization 'far more advanced'. The whole thing was about revenge. To Superman, and to all general human life for causing him misery for 5 years.

It was the same basic principle. He didnt value any human life whatsoever. The difference here is that it was more widespead and more destructive. After 5 years I would not have expected anything less from this Lex. Of course the icing on the cake was he was using Supes technology. It was still conman Lex wanting real estate, money, respect and power.

 

[VenomsMom]

It's just as irresponsible.....Murder is still muder, no?

Exactly it was still the same.

 

[VenomsMom]

I thought he had millions in the bank...wasn't that established in the beginning of the flick. He may have not had billions of dollars, but he was pretty well off wouldn't you say?

Come on, you saw how pissed Lex was when he finally got Supes where he wanted him...creating a replica of Krypton was a calculated low blow to the man of steel.

Why else would he make an island out of kryptonite? This was about killing Supes.....or killing millions of innocents. Either way, Supes was screwed. Lex was a meglomaniac. It's feast or famine with him. I think it's you who is missing the big picture.

"And that place I think I'll rent out...."

Yeah, he sounded really serious when he said that.

Killing Supes was just a bonus. Why would he come up with such a massive plan just to kill Supes? This plan was in motion before he knew supes was even back.

 

[Mr. Socko]

Nope. Money and revenge are his motivations. Individually they equal 50% of his motivation. There is no room.

Correct me again and I'll throw you off a bridge

 

[Showtime]

Correct me again and I'll throw you off a bridge

I'm really interested on how that would work out for you Green Goblin.

 

[Optimus Prime.]

the sequel better be good.

 

[Mr. Socko]

Kinda wrong thread but does anyone have the gif of Lex yelling wrong and the letters come out his mouth?

 

[dude stannis]

Search YTMND, they've got plenty of parodies of Lex Luthor's WRONG!.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I wasn't including you in the both.

Oh right sorry.

Killing Supes was just a bonus. Why would he come up with such a massive plan just to kill Supes? This plan was in motion before he knew supes was even back.

It wasnt just to kill Supes, it was to humiliate him, anger him, and put him on his knees, and THEN killing him. I'll agree that the plan was in motion BEFORE he knew Supes was back, but once he did know, his plan clearly took on different elements, like revenge. Hence the inclusion of Kryptonite into the creation of the island. This is all basically in Lex's dialogue to Supes on the island. He hates Superman and wants him to suffer greatly before he dies.

 

[GreenKToo]

I just didnt care for the way Lex was potrayed in S.R. If they would have had him making kryptonarian weapons to sell, instead of making land, I would have enjoyed it alot more.
Still, i'm curious to see how singers promises of more action, all wrath of kahn etc etc, pans out.

 

[Dark Knight]

I just didnt care for the way Lex was potrayed in S.R. If they would have had him making kryptonarian weapons to sell, instead of making land, I would have enjoyed it alot more.
Still, i'm curious to see how singers promises of more action, all wrath of kahn etc etc, pans out.

Singer is not a bad director. He should know what needs to be done to improve upon for the sequel to be kick a$$. X2 was a better overall film than the first and the ending with Jean dying had something to do with it. Same with Wrath of Khan.....with Spock dying heroically in the end....just made Wrath of Khan that much better because of the shock, drama and emotion.

I firmly believe that in the sequel to Returns.....Singer knows what to do to improve. I also believe that the sequel should not have a "happy" type of ending. Someone needs to be killed off in a tragic and heroic way other than Supes or Richard. The main candidate would be Jason IMO and if it is him....he needs to die heroically.

 

[GhostPoet]

I'm very sceptical about Singer...he seems bent on -reviving Donner's vision and completely ignoring the comics...

 

[JAX]

I'm very sceptical about Singer...he seems bent on -reviving Donner's vision and completely ignoring the comics...

agreed.

 

[GhostPoet]

If the Zod rumor turns out to be true...then it'll be obvious Singer is looking to only do "remakes" of the original Superman films and not created his own series.

 

[Dark Knight]

If the Zod rumor turns out to be true...then it'll be obvious Singer is looking to only do "remakes" of the original Superman films and not created his own series.

I agree...and that would be unfortunate. However, I don't think Horn and the WB's execs will greenlight his sequel script if it seems like a remake.

 

[terry78]

I would think that the fact that none of Superman's actual classic villains have been used aside from Luthor would be a director's dream...finally get to realize them in your own vision.

 

[Spiderine]

It would be quite a challenge.