Sequels The Official Kevin Spacey As Lex Luthor Thread

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NOt really about the discussion, but a personal note to you.
Thank you for serving your country and protecting the values we belive in.
hey thanks Mega...i appreciate that....you get so much respect for even telling me that...thank you again Mega:yay:
 
hey thanks Mega...i appreciate that....you get so much respect for even telling me that...thank you again Mega:yay:

Hey, no problem, my father in law was a 30 year Marine, my dad served at the end of WWII.

One of my 9 year old's friend's dad just got back from a year in IRaq w/ the reserves.

I have the utmost respect and admiration for all our service men and women across the globe. You all deserve it. Thanks again.

"Freedom isn't free."

"Can I tell you something
GOt to tell you one thing
I you want the freedom that you say is yours
Prove that you deserve it
Help us to preserve it
OR being free will just be words
And nothing more."
 
I loved when Lex said........



KKKKKKKKYYYYYYYRRRRRRRPPPPPPPTTTTTOOOOOOONNNNNIIIIIIITTTTTEEEEE
 
I gotta say...superman not say god bye :down: that erked me.

we had way too many reasons to NOT like supes in Returns.
 
I didn't have a problem with Richard, Lois, or any of the other characters-- I simply DID NOT CARE about them one way or the other. This movie was annoying and dull.

Spacey was hammy as Lex. I expected cold and calculating, like in the comics or animated series, and what I got was a rehash of Gene Hackman's campy Luthor.

They botched this from the get-go. I won't be seeing the sequel if this is the way they're going to continue.
ya, they should at least refresh the lex character...
 
The only way I could see them making the events in S.R. be non existent, yet still be believable, would be for Superman to have been stopped unaware on his way back to earth from krypton by *insert supervillain here*, he gets hooked up to alien computers (ala matrix) and the events in S.R. play out in his mind, not reality.
When he finally escapes and returns to earth, there is no richard, and no jason.

Its crazy I know, but its the only way I could see it.

It's certainly feasible.

Slightly more of a twist:
Superman figures out it's all in his head and then wakes himself up or someone disconnects him by accident. He discovers that "Richard" is a real person - a villain who was trying to brainwash him into trusting him. Maybe Brainiac... Think SV, the one with the Phantom trying to trick Clark into believing in the mental reality so he can take over Clark's body. In SR, the real "Richard" isn't trying to take over Clark's body but he is trying to either subdue or control him.

Once Superman wakes up/gets disconnected, all of the color comes back to the film...
 
But he causes her more pain by not saying goodbye. It's really simple. Not saying goodbye is about him avoiding pain, not avoiding her from experiencing pain. SHe's going to experience pain either way, but which situation is worth. If he tells her at least she knows he cares enough to say something. By not saying anything it's like saying he doesn't care about her.

So he makes a mistake, Jesus, he's not perfect, he just feels the pain of not telling would be easier than the pain of just leaving. He was wrong, he learns from this, as later in the movie, when he thinks he's not coming back from getting rid of NK, he DOES say goodbye.
 
How does she not feel even more pain of him not saying goodbye? It is incredibly selfish not to tell her. If I was leaving the country for 5 years, and didn't tell my girlfriend that I was heavily involved with, that would be insanely selfish of me.

See my response above to Mega Joe.
 
So he makes a mistake, Jesus, he's not perfect, he just feels the pain of not telling would be easier than the pain of just leaving. He was wrong, he learns from this, as later in the movie, when he thinks he's not coming back from getting rid of NK, he DOES say goodbye.

That's one hell of a mistake. I'd just go with the excuse that it was a really crappy plot device thought up by hack writers. Makes more sense than selfishly stomping on the heart of the woman you love by mistake.
 
So he makes a mistake, Jesus, he's not perfect, he just feels the pain of not telling would be easier than the pain of just leaving. He was wrong, he learns from this, as later in the movie, when he thinks he's not coming back from getting rid of NK, he DOES say goodbye.

But its not just a small mistake, its a colossal mistake, one only an emotionally immature person could make. So, I guess he is not emotionally mature/strong enough to say goodbye yet he sure has no trouble sleeping with her. :rolleyes: How dense does one have be to be to not realize the great amount of pain you would cause a loved one by suddenly disappearing for over 4 years without even saying a word. He had to have known it would have caused an extreme amount of pain for Lois. But yet, he does not say anything to her because it was too difficult for him?! I'm sorry but this is so lame and so out of character for Superman. The writers wanted to create drama for Superman, one in which he could not physically fight back, but in doing so they totally compromised his character. :down
 
But its not just a small mistake, its a colossal mistake, one only an emotionally immature person could make. So, I guess he is not emotionally mature/strong enough to say goodbye yet he sure has no trouble sleeping with her. :rolleyes: How dense does one have be to be to not realize the great amount of pain you would cause a loved one by suddenly disappearing for over 4 years without even saying a word. He had to have known it would have caused an extreme amount of pain for Lois. But yet, he does not say anything to her because it was too difficult for him?! I'm sorry but this is so lame and so out of character for Superman. The writers wanted to create drama for Superman, one in which he could not physically fight back, but in doing so they totally compromised his character. :down

I really liked El Payaso's alternate idea for Clark's leaving, which I think would have been much more convincing.

There was absolutely no need for Superman not saying good-bye to Lois in order to make the action go. Superman should have told Lois he HAD to go to Krypton because his soul needed to know if there were survivors or any information about his roots there. Lois, of course can't agree with Superman reasons because she doesn't know if he will be back and she also knows that if he can come back, it will be in 5 years or more. Last night before the trip, they sleep together from where we have Jason's conception. Ta dah. Nice, simple and Superman doesn't go without saying a word. It's still going away after having sex with Lois, but I think many men, Superman included, would be able to explain those reasons before going away.
 
the whole superman leaves/no good byes ect. was singer ripping off the notebook. I mean, he even got James Marsden to play the same role AGAIN as he did in The Notebook! Cept Singey added a kid.
 
I have this really crazy idea...I think Superman should actually PUNCH someone.
Instead of lifting objects, he should have a supervillain he can punch and get punched by.

It's crazy I know....but it JUST might work.
 
Well he cant punch a human....might accidentlly decapitate someone...and he doesnt kill peope so.....could be a problem.
 
Superman really is a dick, isn't he? :o
 
awesome news... and to comment on the whole superman punching somebody, i kind of like that singer chose to not make superman a violent character... it's too easy to wow audiences by having him throwing somebody around. the fact is, superman would never punch a human, let alone lex.
 
Lex Luthor isn't supposed to be a maniac. He's supposed to be a genius, a businessman, a master of manipulating things to get what he wants, and a scientist.

The movie Lex is always basically a psychopath with a fetish for real estate.
He is the same character from 78, was he suppose to change?
 
They both didnt give a damn about murdering millions.....over the same thing....land.

He was using Kryptonian technology to kill people.....it's a little more sci-fi than the 'he wanted land'. He perversed the technology of a civilization 'far more advanced'. The whole thing was about revenge. To Superman, and to all general human life for causing him misery for 5 years.
 
He was using Kryptonian technology to kill people.....it's a little more sci-fi than the 'he wanted land'. He perversed the technology of a civilization 'far more advanced'. The whole thing was about revenge. To Superman, and to all general human life for causing him misery for 5 years.

So using alien technology is more evil than Nuclear weapons?
 
He was using Kryptonian technology to kill people.....it's a little more sci-fi than the 'he wanted land'. He perversed the technology of a civilization 'far more advanced'. The whole thing was about revenge. To Superman, and to all general human life for causing him misery for 5 years.


Guess again. He didn't use the kryptonian technology to intentionally kill people. What Lex cared about was the land created by the technology, and people just had to die for the land to be created. Luthor's intent in SR was to create land, but to create land, millions...no billions, had to die. Lex's motivation was to create land and real estate. And besides, if he just wanted to kill everyone, who's gonna buy his real estate?

You're not getting the big picture pickle!
 
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