Sequels The Official Kevin Spacey As Lex Luthor Thread

[superbaby]

reply to you is a waste of time.

 

[mego joe]

reply to you is a waste of time.

I thought I learned that , but still I try.....

 

[El Payaso]

In fact hating a movie for over a year is quite a waste of time.

 

[dpm07]

In fact hating a movie for over a year is quite a waste of time.

That's just your opinion.

Some people have the time to have negative feelings toward something that they were hoping would be really great, but were let down.

 

[El Payaso]

That's just your opinion.

No, I read it at wikipedia.

Some people have the time to have negative feelings toward something that they were hoping would be really great, but were let down.

Nobody's denying the right to be unhappy.

 

[VenomsMom]

Lines have clearly been drawn on these Superman boards havent they. Right down the middle. You are either on one side or the other.

 

[Showtime]

The meaning is that people mised him and they were too happy to see him again because, fo what we see later (scene of Superman and Lois above Metropolis), they feel they need him too much; maybe even more than they actually need him.

In movies you don't need 50 minutes to make a point. Depending on the director you might need a few seconds. Of course you have also the Hollywwod average director who needs to spoonfeed and underline everything due to the market exigences, audience not too able to get things and/or lack of skills.

But yes, the main focus wasn't on Superman-people relationship (even when it was addressed), my question is... so what? You can see yourself Supes-Lois was the main focus, there you have your focus.

The problem for me was the original intention of the movie was to show us what a world without Superman was like and how the people who act upon his return because they have now gone out without him. Superman was supposed to return to find that the world has moved on without him and that wasn't potrayed. That was hacked out by the editing, and that is why the script tells a better all around story.

 

[Showtime]

Lines have clearly been drawn on these Superman boards havent they. Right down the middle. You are either on one side or the other.

Except for me. I am like Sweden or Switzerland, one of those S countries.

 

[Qwerty©]

That's just your opinion.

Some people have the time to have negative feelings toward something that they were hoping would be really great, but were let down.

That's called having too much time.

Complaining for over a year is ridiculous. You don't see me in the X3 boards talking about how much that movie sucked.

 

[Showtime]

That's called having too much time.

Complaining for over a year is ridiculous. You don't see me in the X3 boards talking about how much that movie sucked.

It's the same difference to defend or praise a movie for this amount of time, let's not be hypocritical.

 

[Qwerty©]

It's the same difference to defend or praise a movie for this amount of time, let's not be hypocritical.

I'm not being hypocritical.

I give the movie the credit it deserves. It's not perfect and I never said it was. But some of these whiners are not being fair, they are acting like children eating broccoli. They don't like it and are making a huge fuss about it. I'm just calling out the ridiculousness, and defending the movie when it needs it.

What i'm doing has purpose and justification, and the whiners don't have that. The main difference is, i'd stop defending if they went away, but they won't stop whining if I go away.

 

[GreenKToo]

Truth is, S.R. didnt please most of the fans OR the public.

Sure your gonna have a few that are unhappy with every C.B. film, but I think that even those that liked S.R. have quite a few complaints with it.

You dont see this going on in the the Batman forum with Begins.

 

[Showtime]

I'm not being hypocritical.

I give the movie the credit it deserves. It's not perfect and I never said it was. But some of these whiners are not being fair, they are acting like children eating broccoli. They don't like it and are making a huge fuss about it. I'm just calling out the ridiculousness, and defending the movie when it needs it.

What i'm doing has purpose and justification, and the whiners don't have that. The main difference is, i'd stop defending if they went away, but they won't stop whining if I go away.

That is the problem Qwerty, the movie doesn't need to be defended. Who is paying you to do this? If somebody doesn't like something they can complain. If they love it they can praise it, but you can't tell people to stop complaining about it while you are defending and praising it. What you are doing his hypocritical and you are delirious if you think it isn't.

 

[VenomsMom]

Well....this is a board to discuss Superman returns and its possible sequel. So haters and lovers are welcome.

 

[Qwerty©]

That is the problem Qwerty, the movie doesn't need to be defended. Who is paying you to do this? If somebody doesn't like something they can complain. If they love it they can praise it, but you can't tell people to stop complaining about it while you are defending and praising it. What you are doing his hypocritical and you are delirious if you think it isn't.

No, I'm not being delirious.

People should be able to criticise, I criticise the movie, I made the current suit thread for gods sake, but the fact is most of the people aren't criticising the movie, they are tearing it apart relentlessly.

Are you seriously calling complaints like "Superman is a stalker", "Deadbeat dad" or "Superman is gay" valid criticisms?

Look at people like buggs or superbaby, are they not delirious?

I have not seen one good argument from thse people. The ones that can discuss civilly and present their opinions intelligently can stay. People like Matt, for example. The rest i'll continue to argue with.

Now i'm going to bed. Goodnight.

 

[Showtime]

No, I'm not being delirious.

People should be able to criticise, I criticise the movie, I made the current suit thread for gods sake, but the fact is most of the people aren't criticising the movie, they are tearing it apart relentlessly.

Are you seriously calling complaints like "Superman is a stalker", "Deadbeat dad" or "Superman is gay" valid criticisms?

Look at people like buggs or superbaby, are they not delirious?

I have not seen one good argument from thse people. The ones that can discuss civilly and present their opinions intelligently can stay. People like Matt, for example. The rest i'll continue to argue with.

Now i'm going to bed. Goodnight.

Its not your decision who stays and who goes. That is up to the MODs. They are well aware of who is doing what on these boards, more than you know or think. I have called out both so called sides so there is no need to be cute about it. It's plain to see what the truth is.

 

[Venom'sDad]

No, I'm not being delirious.

People should be able to criticise, I criticise the movie, I made the current suit thread for gods sake, but the fact is most of the people aren't criticising the movie, they are tearing it apart relentlessly.

Are you seriously calling complaints like "Superman is a stalker", "Deadbeat dad" or "Superman is gay" valid criticisms?

Look at people like buggs or superbaby, are they not delirious?

I have not seen one good argument from thse people. The ones that can discuss civilly and present their opinions intelligently can stay. People like Matt, for example. The rest i'll continue to argue with.

You know, I understand your anger with people criticizing a film you obviously treasure... I feel the same about the Spiderman trilogy. However, those criticism are those opinions and you just have to deal with that because everyone will not see things the way you see it. Superman one of my favorite, only behind Spiderman... as you can see in my avatar, "One of the greatest ever" team-ups in my book. But I have serious problems, as many do, with Singer's adaption. I don't expect evertone to agree with me, but that is just the way I see it. It's an opinion and that's all thats matter...

 

[YÅ«gi's BM]

I think we can all agree that the potential of a 'Superman returns to Earth' storyline was hindered do to a runtime.

Would not this story have worked out better if it had the space it would have had as a comic?

 

[superbaby]

No, I'm not being delirious.

People should be able to criticise, I criticise the movie, I made the current suit thread for gods sake, but the fact is most of the people aren't criticising the movie, they are tearing it apart relentlessly.

Are you seriously calling complaints like "Superman is a stalker", "Deadbeat dad" or "Superman is gay" valid criticisms?

Look at people like buggs or superbaby, are they not delirious?

I have not seen one good argument from thse people. The ones that can discuss civilly and present their opinions intelligently can stay. People like Matt, for example. The rest i'll continue to argue with.

Now i'm going to bed. Goodnight.

thanks for registering my name into your database. t:

btw, i'm a fanboy, who been waiting 15 years to see my 1st superman movie in the big screen & can't help to see singer raping my favorite characters.
ya, singer sucks.

 

[El Payaso]

Are you seriously calling complaints like "Superman is a stalker", "Deadbeat dad" or "Superman is gay" valid criticisms?

Specialy considering that "stalker" - and "peeping tom" - are not conceots showed in the movie. But to be hater implies sacrifices, like ignoring the proper use of English.

 

[El Payaso]

Lines have clearly been drawn on these Superman boards havent they. Right down the middle. You are either on one side or the other.

OR you can be Showtime029.

 

[Super Kal]

and it works for him

 

[GreenKToo]

There are quite a few of us that are in the middle.

I wouldnt mind if M.O.S. got made, BUT if they decided to make a J.L. film instead, i'd like that too.

I had/have my problems with S.R. ( no supervillain, not enough action) It did have its bright spots though, but it also had some cringe worthy spots as well ( dog eating dog, WROOOOnnngg.).

I am willing at this point to give singer another chance. I want to at least see what he has in mind for the sequel before I say he cant do it right.
Besides, its out of our hands anyway.

 

[Superman1314]

Truth is, S.R. didnt please most of the fans OR the public.

Sure your gonna have a few that are unhappy with every C.B. film, but I think that even those that liked S.R. have quite a few complaints with it.

You dont see this going on in the the Batman forum with Begins.

People are *****ing and moaning about Joker already..and the movie isn't even out yet. Some people just like to complain if they don't get things there way...most of us fans who liked SR were and are accepting of the changes. That is the difference.

 

[Grinder]

Accepting changes is easy if the story makes enough sense to have them! The premature moaning about the Joker could be silenced once the movie is out and delivers a good story.
It worked for Batman Begins, could work again for the sequel. Time will tell.