Sequels The Official Kevin Spacey As Lex Luthor Thread

[Qwerty©]

You know, I understand your anger with people criticizing a film you obviously treasure... I feel the same about the Spiderman trilogy. However, those criticism are those opinions and you just have to deal with that because everyone will not see things the way you see it. Superman one of my favorite, only behind Spiderman... as you can see in my avatar, "One of the greatest ever" team-ups in my book. But I have serious problems, as many do, with Singer's adaption. I don't expect evertone to agree with me, but that is just the way I see it. It's an opinion and that's all thats matter...

I don't think i've ever had a problem with you.

It's not your opinion i dislike, it's just the way people go about their opinion. A lot of the haters here are bashing for the sake of bashing rather than criticising the movie in a constructive manner.

 

[superbaby]

you upset a costumer, s/he will not only tell to 50 people. s/he will tell to 5000 people. (read in a book)
you upset a fanboy, s/he will tell to 50,000 people.
ya, fanboy sometimes is really scary. :P

 

[manofsteel4life]

that's all i ask sometimes that if you didnt like SR...than give a better solution, and most do, all the time...but just plain moaning and saying Singer is gay, just aint right, regardless if its opinion or not. And i already said this another thread, but regardless of what Singer has done in the past regarding superhero's....but now we have the man of steel....only one Superhero...the greatest...might i add....and he's already stated why SR was like the way it is....time and time again we've seen Supes fighting and saving people....but we havent seen him deal with real life problems before.....that's all Singer wanted to do, just show a different kind of dilema that supes had to deal with....you wont see that sort of thing in the sequel....trust me.....Singer is doing SUPERMAN....just think of the posibilites.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

that's all i ask sometimes that if you didnt like SR...than give a better solution, and most do, all the time...but just plain moaning and saying Singer is gay, just aint right, regardless if its opinion or not. And i already said this another thread, but regardless of what Singer has done in the past regarding superhero's....but now we have the man of steel....only one Superhero...the greatest...might i add....and he's already stated why SR was like the way it is....time and time again we've seen Supes fighting and saving people....but we havent seen him deal with real life problems before.....that's all Singer wanted to do, just show a different kind of dilema that supes had to deal with....you wont see that sort of thing in the sequel....trust me.....Singer is doing SUPERMAN....just think of the posibilites.

Exactly, Singer wanted to do something different to the usual superhero fair, and i applaud him for it, SR was a refreshing change from the CB movie formula.

 

[Dark Knight]

Exactly, Singer wanted to do something different to the usual superhero fair, and i applaud him for it, SR was a refreshing change from the CB movie formula.

I agree. He succeded in most areas, however in others he didn't IMO.

If he would have had a big time villain for Supes to have a super fight against.....the film would have made more money.

 

[dark_b]

Exactly, Singer wanted to do something different to the usual superhero fair, and i applaud him for it, SR was a refreshing change from the CB movie formula.

it was to slow IMO for a comic book movie and it was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to slow for the strongest and fastest superhero of all time.

i understand that he wanted him to make serious. but it is like hulk. it is to serious for that kind of movie. there is jsut tooooooooo much money involved.

 

[El Payaso]

it was to slow IMO for a comic book movie and it was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to slow for the strongest and fastest superhero of all time.

i understand that he wanted him to make serious. but it is like hulk. it is to serious for that kind of movie. there is jsut tooooooooo much money involved.

THIS I can agree with.

I mean, except that th movie should be as fast as Superman because that just dosn't make any sense. Flash movie then would be impossile to follow.

But yes, it was too serious and that is simply not for all tastes. Threfore, I can totally get that the movie is not a record breaker. But as I have said many times, I can't care less; I don't need to brag about it with my friendies nor I need 4 sequels. It was the damn time to go further with Superman in a serious way and not rehash Raimi's Spider-teen-romantic-comedies or some chilche festival with a 'serious' disguise.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I agree. He succeded in most areas, however in others he didn't IMO.

If he would have had a big time villain for Supes to have a super fight against.....the film would have made more money.

I agree, though i'm kinda glad they left a supervillain out, i'm noticing lately that the Superhero vs Supervillain bouts often dissapoint, IMO anyway, no Hero vs Villain fight has been as good as Blade vs Nomak from Blade II and that was in 2002 for christs sake! Though i will say the fights in Spidey 2 run it close. But other than that NO movie has come close IMO.

it was to slow IMO for a comic book movie and it was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to slow for the strongest and fastest superhero of all time.

i understand that he wanted him to make serious. but it is like hulk. it is to serious for that kind of movie. there is jsut tooooooooo much money involved.

THIS I can agree with.

I mean, except that th movie should be as fast as Superman because that just dosn't make any sense. Flash movie then would be impossile to follow.

But yes, it was too serious and that is simply not for all tastes. Threfore, I can totally get that the movie is not a record breaker. But as I have said many times, I can't care less; I don't need to brag about it with my friendies nor I need 4 sequels. It was the damn time to go further with Superman in a serious way and not rehash Raimi's Spider-teen-romantic-comedies or some chilche festival with a 'serious' disguise.

I dont think SR is slow at all, every time i watch it, the movie flys by and i have watched around 45 times now. IMO it moves pretty fast and keeps me interested all the way through. Plus, i thought Hulk was awesome as well t: .

 

[GhostPoet]

The movie was slow and boring...Where are all the scenes where the Man of Steel fights overwhelming odds?

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

The movie was slow and boring...Where are all the scenes where the Man of Steel fights overwhelming odds?

The movie wasnt about Superman physically fighting someone . It was about fighting to get back the woman he loves and fighting for humanity.

 

[Tron5000]

If they say they'll make the movie if they can get it in under $175mil, I believe it will happen.

Think of all the money they had to spend on SR for things such as the flight fx, sets (Daily Planet, Metropolis, etc.), costuming...These are all things that will be far cheaper the 2nd time around.

And if they use the "Return to Krypton" sequence, that saves a few million, since it's already been filmed.

 

[Superman1314]

If transformers was made on 150 mil budget, a superman film can be made for that much.

 

[El Payaso]

If transformers was made on 150 mil budget, a superman film can be made for that much.

Absolutely.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

If they say they'll make the movie if they can get it in under $175mil, I believe it will happen.

Think of all the money they had to spend on SR for things such as the flight fx, sets (Daily Planet, Metropolis, etc.), costuming...These are all things that will be far cheaper the 2nd time around.

And if they use the "Return to Krypton" sequence, that saves a few million, since it's already been filmed.

Exactly, many sets are already built, the FX are aldready researched, so this will save money for one. And then using the RTK sequence to show someone followed Superman back to earth will save more.

If transformers was made on 150 mil budget, a superman film can be made for that much.

Exactly, and TF had like 8 characters who needed effects work, SR will only likely have 2/3 at most.

 

[dark_b]

The movie wasnt about Superman physically fighting someone . It was about fighting to get back the woman he loves and fighting for humanity.

lets spend 200 milions on a movie like that. and since we have 200 milions lets delete a 10 milion scene.

bravo WB............bravo singer.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

lets spend 200 milions on a movie like that. and since we have 200 milions lets delete a 10 milion scene.

bravo WB............bravo singer.

Sometimes you just cant tell whether a scene fits in with the movie or not until you see the movie in its entirety.

Plus, Spiderman 3 spent $258 million and was a worse movie than SR IMO.

 

[Justice Bringer]

I think all the cutscenes fit. Singer shot it at as a 3 hour film; he was initially told from WB that 3 hours was fine.

It was only last minute where he was forced to cut it down to 2h 30...

 

[dark_b]

Sometimes you just cant tell whether a scene fits in with the movie or not until you see the movie in its entirety.

Plus, Spiderman 3 spent $258 million and was a worse movie than SR IMO.

spiderman 3 was pathetic IMO so you dont need to bash this movie to me.

 

[dark_b]

I think all the cutscenes fit. Singer shot it at as a 3 hour film; he was initially told from WB that 3 hours was fine.

It was only last minute where he was forced to cut it down to 2h 30...

thats why we can nto forget how stupid WB is. they invested so much money but they gave a guy full control. then months before teh premiere they got scared that teh mvie is to long. and we all know that when you force a director to shorten the movie that something bad will happen.

 

[Justice Bringer]

Yeah the Kent farm scenes were great too; the Glenn Ford nod, "you can't stop the world from spinning" etc

Singer timed the film perfectly at 3 hours; obviously condensing it by 30 mins would diminish it.

 

[El Payaso]

Sometimes you just cant tell whether a scene fits in with the movie or not until you see the movie in its entirety.

Plus, Spiderman 3 spent $258 million and was a worse movie than SR IMO.

lol true. Let's have a Citizen Kane's Bravo Raimi.

 

[Superman1314]

Yeah..people rate the success of a movie on money..but for me, SR made less than Spider Man 3 but was more enjoyable. GO figure.

I personally think if we were to have recieved the full 3 hour version Singer shot, that the movie would have been even better. I still hope for an extended cut.....god please.

 

[El Payaso]

Yeah..people rate the success of a movie on money..

Believe me, they realize, but they have to cling to something.

but for me, SR made less than Spider Man 3 but was more enjoyable. GO figure.

Man, for me Spiderman 3 was another Batman & Robin. And a Batman & Robin doesn't get any better because of bigger BO numbers, I can tell you that.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I think all the cutscenes fit. Singer shot it at as a 3 hour film; he was initially told from WB that 3 hours was fine.

It was only last minute where he was forced to cut it down to 2h 30...

Exactly, WB made him cut the movie down, which is a shame. Hopefully an extended cut will come someday with all of the deleted bits added back in.

 

[dark_b]

Yeah..people rate the success of a movie on money..but for me, SR made less than Spider Man 3 but was more enjoyable. GO figure.

I personally think if we were to have recieved the full 3 hour version Singer shot, that the movie would have been even better. I still hope for an extended cut.....god please.

money is not important if you have a low budget. but with a character like superman and a franchise it is very important. you can nto invest 200 milions just like that.

WB doesnt know what they are doing. chris nolan was just big luck. plus i read somewhere that nolan was the one who vent to WB or DC.