The Official Mars One Thread - Human settlement on Mars by 2025

[AnneFan]

I'm all for human achievement, etc, but I'd much, much rather live on Earth than a place like Mars which is desolate and where suits are required to live. If only people appreciated what they had here.

 

[The End]

I don't think that's really the issue.

Some people look at it as an adventure, an opportunity to be where no one else has been, in the spirit of exploration, and to lay the foundations for the future.

Throughout human history people have travelled to far off, isolated, dangerous places with little or no hope of seeing home again in the same spirit. If people didn't do that we wouldn't progress.

 

[The End]

Having theories on how it can be done, and doing it are two very different things.

Don't pretend like you actually read up on how they plan to do it. Admit it. You didn't check what their plan was. It's pretty blatant in your post.

 

[Thundercrack85]

I have, actually, though I did dismiss it. But I was reading Von Braun's proposals before this would-be reality show got off the ground.

Have you read some of the criticism of this plan?

 

[The End]

I have. I ain't saying its definitely for sure going to succeed, but it sure does bug me when I see naysayers bring in complaints that are actually addressed directly by Mars One, and the naysayers show no signs of having read what the plan is.

 

[Thundercrack85]

I admit, I would probably take it a lot more seriously if they actually had the funding (and materials) for half these ideas. Something they continue to fail to address.

This is up there with the L5 Society, as far as I'm concerned.

 

[The End]

We won't have to wait long to see if its a bust. We won't have to wait until the 2020s, we'll know this year. There's over 1000 applicants to go through further stages of testing and training and if Mars One can't get the deals they believe they can get to support that then its over. Until then, I don't see the point in being negative.

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

This is gonna sound patronizing.

This seems to happen in a lot of threads I either make or frequent...

Are people really gonna do this thing where, they post their opinions on a topic, without doing even a bit of reading about the topic? Yeah, that was patronizing haha.

You don't sound patronizing. Just full of yourself and closed off to different opinions. I probably know more about Mars exploration then you. I've been into Mars since the Sojourner rover landed in '97. So in response to "zomg! There's water on Mars!!1" No, there's some circumstanial evidence of water either existing or having existed on Mars. We haven't actually found where this water is, how deep it is, if it's enough to sustain human life for decades or centuries, or even if water resources are still active, etc. Because it's certainly not raining a lot there. So even if water exists, it would be a finite resource.

 

[Thundercrack85]

That's the thing though, they'll just change 2016 to 2018, and 2025 becomes 2027, and so on.

It's like Kurzweil and the singularity.

I'm sure it'll happen some day, but again, 2050, optimistically.

 

[The End]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_on_Mars#Present_water_ice

 

[Thundercrack85]

Again, difference in knowing and doing.

Now, if they sent a robot to Mars, to find water, and make it drinkable, that would be one thing. But I don't see that happening in time for 2025.

 

[The End]

That's the thing though, they'll just change 2016 to 2018, and 2025 becomes 2027, and so on.

It's like Kurzweil and the singularity.

I'm sure it'll happen some day, but again, 2050, optimistically.

You're not listening to what I'm saying.

They have applicants, right now, who have made it to the 2nd round of application. Those applicants aren't just gonna be sitting on their butts for the next few years. THIS YEAR, there are meant to be tests for these applicants providing that Mars One can actually fund those tests. If they can't, we'll know about it.

We'll know, this year, whether or not the whole thing is a bust.

 

[The End]

Again, difference in knowing and doing.

Now, if they sent a robot to Mars, to find water, and make it drinkable, that would be one thing. But I don't see that happening in time for 2025.

That's part of the whole point of the missions prior to sending humans up.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Yes, an unrealistic, unfunded time frame.

You'll see. They'll reach the deadline, and then just extend it.

 

[The End]

Which deadline are you talking about? It's bugging me that you're trying to play Psychic Meg here. Fine, you disagree, you think there are holes, but you don't actually know. And so WHAT if they extend deadlines; that isn't me being an apologist, that's just common sense - even NASA extends deadlines. If they extend a launch deadline that's not abnormal.

In regards to the applications process, however, if this year passes without anything happening with the applicants then we know the whole thing is bunk. If 2015 starts with no sign of applicant training the whole thing is bunk. I'd be the first to admit it.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Yes, NASA's lofty plans to get to Mars... That kept being pushed back (for decades), until they finally postponed it indefinitely.

Actually, the date I am looking at it, is the first supply launch. I find that a lot more telling than finding applicants.

They can get all the applicants training they want.

 

[The End]

Except not really. These people are over the world and it takes funds to get them all to the same place, get them accommodation, and to do adequate testing in isolated environments that mimic the conditions of Mars. That will take money. There's over 1000 people so as I said if there's no progress by the end of the year we'll know Mars One can't get the funds to do this.

 

[Piper Maru]

Doom 3 anyone?

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[The End]

Astronaut Chris Hadfield discussing Mars One.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYL9dmudGIQ

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[The End]

Waterloo alumnus makes first cut for Mars One mission

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitch...akes-first-cut-for-mars-one-mission-1.2491778

A PhD alumnus of the University of Waterloo's Institute for Quantum Computing has made the first cut of applicants looking to join the Mars One mission to establish a permanent human settlement on the red planet.

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/mars-one-first-private-mars-mission-in-2018

 

[The End]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-25697104

"It's a really great thing for humanity to achieve. It is pushing the boundaries, it is exploration - just a whole load of possibilities," she said.

"We don't go to space because we need to get off the planet but because we want to explore and achieve things."

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/mars-one-first-private-mars-mission-in-2018

 

[Superwoman Prime]

I applaud the bravery and discipline of the contestants, pass or fail.

We need to expand as a species. And it starts with this step.

 

[Mike_D202]

My theory: IF they make the trip to Mars (and that's a pretty big IF) they have to worry about medical emergencies (what if someone needs an operation? on-the-site training? good luck with that.), air leaks, sandstorms messing with the equipment, meteors (on the trip there and after settling), "cabin fever" testing their sanity, and if those problems all get addressed: coping and living together with one another in those small cubicles for the rest of their lives.

This is all being mostly funded by a reality television show, this isn't for the betterment of mankind: it's for entertainment. They are purposely mixing people of different backgrounds to bounce off one another for TV programming. And that's IF they make it to Mars. They are risking lives to make a name for themselves and make money from the tv show.

For the Conspiracy Theory nuts: if the governments are keeping "aliens" or UFO's secret, they aren't going to let these people off the ground. And if they do, they won't survive in space. Some kind of equipment malfunction will occur and they will either blow up or not leave at all. OR: the infamous "fake moon landing theory." They'll film the entire tv show on a sound stage or in the desert somewhere.



I have no doubt in my mind that this WILL be the biggest astronomical disaster for the history books.

 

[Thundercrack85]

As a nut who does believe the government is misleading the people on UFO's, I don't see an issue. Unless there's going to be a UFO sighting the government needs to worry about on Mars.

 

[Slushy]

It takes about 9 months to get to Mars.

The present space shuttle cannot carry enough food, water, oxygen and fuel to keep a crew alive that long.