The Official Michael Shannon IS General Zod - Part 2

[ThePowerCosmic]

Oh, all right. Thanks.

 

[Rust]

Never heard of that myself, but I hope it's true that Supes outsmarts Zod and co. somehow. That Supes' intelligence is focused on somewhat.

 

[AnneFan]

Apparently Superman gets his ass kicked like beyond belief in this film and barely is able to win except through trickery.

Haven't heard this before, but it sounds promising. Having Zod in this movie is definitely a physical step up from real estate crooks and computer programmers!

 

[Herolee10]

Haven't heard this before, but it sounds promising. Having Zod in this movie is definitely a physical step up from real estate crooks and computer programmers!

Indeed, speaking of which...

I haven't followed as much of Shannon's work as I have with the rest of the cast members' but based on what anyone here has seen of Michael's work, provided that Zod is characterized well in this film, do you guys think that he's capable of giving fans and audiences our first full on intimidating and menacing villain for Superman on the big screen?

 

[manofsteel4life]

I hope so hero, but I do get nervous that if Michael steals the show as Zod...then who will be even more of a threat to Superman if we get a sequel or sequels?.....how does Wb raise the stakes?

 

[Spaz]

Indeed, speaking of which...

I haven't followed as much of Shannon's work as I have with the rest of the cast members' but based on what anyone here has seen of Michael's work, provided that Zod is characterized well in this film, do you guys think that he's capable of giving fans and audiences our first full on intimidating and menacing villain for Superman on the big screen?

Without question.

[YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVoT-U6Hgu8[/YT]

 

[Herolee10]

I hope so hero, but I do get nervous that if Michael steals the show as Zod...then who will be even more of a threat to Superman if we get a sequel or sequels?.....how does Wb raise the stakes?

Well if I had any say in it:

1. MOS Sequel: Lex Luther and Brainiac

2. MOS Third Film: Darkseid! (I refuse to save this guy for a JLA film since the chances of a successful JLA film coming out within the next decade is about as small as Kristin Stewart's common sense)

 

[flickchick85]

Indeed, speaking of which...

I haven't followed as much of Shannon's work as I have with the rest of the cast members' but based on what anyone here has seen of Michael's work, provided that Zod is characterized well in this film, do you guys think that he's capable of giving fans and audiences our first full on intimidating and menacing villain for Superman on the big screen?

Oh yes. It's because of his roles that Michael Shannon just kind of terrifies me in general, even though by all accounts he's a pretty chill guy in real life. The guy does the best Crazy Eyes, lol.

 

[Herolee10]

Without question.

[YT]QVoT-U6Hgu8[/YT]

Oh yes. It's because of his roles that Michael Shannon just kind of terrifies me in general, even though by all accounts he's a pretty chill guy in real life. The guy does the best Crazy Eyes, lol.

Glad to hear!

 

[DogofKrypton]

Indeed, speaking of which...

I haven't followed as much of Shannon's work as I have with the rest of the cast members' but based on what anyone here has seen of Michael's work, provided that Zod is characterized well in this film, do you guys think that he's capable of giving fans and audiences our first full on intimidating and menacing villain for Superman on the big screen?

Michael Shannon is phenomenal, and I was ECSTATIC when he was cast as Zod. It was so out of left field, but just so RIGHT too.

Check out "Take Shelter" to see just how good he really is.

 

[moviedoors]

I was already psyched when he was cast, being a huge fan of his work in Bug, Before the Devil Knows You're Dead, My Son, My Son, What Have Ye Done?, and Boardwalk Empire, but now that I've seen Take Shelter, I'm reconsidering my atheism.

Michael Shannon is going to be phenomenal. Mark my words here and now. We will all be kneeling before Zod.

 

[chumchees]

I have a question, as I m not familiar with the comics.

Is the phrase "Kneel before Zod" from the comics or did it come from the movie. Because if it came from the comics, then I would not mind hearing it said in this new movie.

 

[godisawesome]

Well if I had any say in it:

1. MOS Sequel: Lex Luther and Brainiac

2. MOS Third Film: Darkseid! (I refuse to save this guy for a JLA film since the chances of a successful JLA film coming out within the next decade is about as small as Kristin Stewart's common sense)

I actually wouldn't mind Brainiac being the villain for the second film while Lex gathers his strength for his part as the big bad of a third film, partially because I love the idea of superman's villains escalating...and then his most dangerous adversary turns out to be a mortal man.

Oh, and I'm pretty sure "Kneel before Zod!!" is originally from Superman II, though it has become the comic version's catch phrase.

 

[terry78]

You wouldn't want to be alone in a room with Shannon, just put it like that. Because you might not be leaving said room.

 

[Lily Adler]

If this doesn't work out Shannon could always do this:

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[manofsteel4life]

Well if I had any say in it:

1. MOS Sequel: Lex Luther and Brainiac

2. MOS Third Film: Darkseid! (I refuse to save this guy for a JLA film since the chances of a successful JLA film coming out within the next decade is about as small as Kristin Stewart's common sense)

That's what I would do, but sadly I don't think Wb has plans for darksied in MOS sequels. I actually see doomsday as a more than likey candidate before Darksied....I want him so bad. Just think how epic that would be....

 

[Herolee10]

Well I'm glad to hear that there's a lot of confidence in Michael having been selected for the role.

With the choice of Zod, I really hope that they take advantage of the fact on how dangerous and terrifying a person can be that has all of Superman's powers but NONE of his morals. It'll just further emphasize on how lucky people are to have Superman on the good side, along with giving Superman's villain the credibility he needs in order to be taken as a serious threat with a memorable performance/portrayal.

 

[Roose Bolton]

I've been thinking lately that perhaps they could explore Zod in a different way than the usual "Caeser of Krypton" route that is the norm for the character.

What if they focused more on the human/kryptonian comparisons.

Now what if Zod isn't just this malevolent war monger, but rather an more Che Gauvera figure, who desperately tries to overthrow the scientific council of Krypton in order to give more power to the people? He and his followers get imprisoned in the phantom zone for countless years until finally he is released, and he discovers earth. Now think of the implications of finding mankind; these people look exactly like Kryptonians, and they have the same potential, yet humans are destroying themselves with war and pollution. Perhaps Zod tries to make up for his failing Krypton by helping lead mankind into a more prosperous future, but by doing so he tries taking over Earth and forcing them into it, tries imposing his own views on the humans while under the illusion that his actions are all for the greater good, saving them from themselves.

I think it'd be a great parallel between his own more tyrannical views and Superman's more peaceful "inspire them to become better" ideology.

 

[Project862006]

You wouldn't want to be alone in a room with Shannon, just put it like that. Because you might not be leaving said room.

 

[X Knight]

I've been thinking lately that perhaps they could explore Zod in a different way than the usual "Caeser of Krypton" route that is the norm for the character.

What if they focused more on the human/kryptonian comparisons.

Now what if Zod isn't just this malevolent war monger, but rather an more Che Gauvera figure, who desperately tries to overthrow the scientific council of Krypton in order to give more power to the people? He and his followers get imprisoned in the phantom zone for countless years until finally he is released, and he discovers earth. Now think of the implications of finding mankind; these people look exactly like Kryptonians, and they have the same potential, yet humans are destroying themselves with war and pollution. Perhaps Zod tries to make up for his failing Krypton by helping lead mankind into a more prosperous future, but by doing so he tries taking over Earth and forcing them into it, tries imposing his own views on the humans while under the illusion that his actions are all for the greater good, saving them from themselves.

I think it'd be a great parallel between his own more tyrannical views and Superman's more peaceful "inspire them to become better" ideology.

hmmm........that could be interesting.

but then it may be viewed as a social/political commentary on big/overbearing government (Zod) vs encouraging self reliability (Superman).

it could be interesting if done right.........but I'd rather they not delve into "social/political messages" too much....

 

[X Knight]

OMG!!! It's Zod's super-secret, CGI battle armor!!

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

hmmm........that could be interesting.

but then it may be viewed as a social/political commentary on big/overbearing government (Zod) vs encouraging self reliability (Superman).

it could be interesting if done right.........but I'd rather they not delve into "social/political messages" too much....

I'd rather GOP propaganda stay with the Batman character as he is the right character for that. There is a such a thing as believing in people doing most things for themselves and believing in letting people die or starve just because they weren't born white weathly men. Everybody needs help once in a while, nobody does everything on their own, if they did, parents would just throw their kids out of the house as soon as they were born and nobody would help old ladies accross the street. Yes I'm off topic and I will understand if this post is axed for that very reason but I had to say my peace. I will get back to Superman now and not respond to any responses to my post.

 

[The Overlord]

I actually wouldn't mind Brainiac being the villain for the second film while Lex gathers his strength for his part as the big bad of a third film, partially because I love the idea of superman's villains escalating...and then his most dangerous adversary turns out to be a mortal man.

Oh, and I'm pretty sure "Kneel before Zod!!" is originally from Superman II, though it has become the comic version's catch phrase.

Except you should never lower the stakes in a sequel, going from alien conquerors to corrupt business men is lowering the stakes.

Also is Zod the only villain in this movie? Is there any chance some other villain will show up? It be chance for a comic book villain besides Zod and Lex to make it to the screen by 2013.

 

[Zionite1]

Except you should never lower the stakes in a sequel, going from alien conquerors to corrupt business men is lowering the stakes.

Also is Zod the only villain in this movie? Is there any chance some other villain will show up? It be chance for a comic book villain besides Zod and Lex to make it to the screen by 2013.

Well with proper buildup Lex can be a more intimidating villain than Braniac and Zod-He is Supes Archenemy.

Oh and Zod isnt the only villain in MOS.He shows up with Faora and something else which no one is sure what

 

[Herolee10]

Except you should never lower the stakes in a sequel, going from alien conquerors to corrupt business men is lowering the stakes.

Also is Zod the only villain in this movie? Is there any chance some other villain will show up? It be chance for a comic book villain besides Zod and Lex to make it to the screen by 2013.

As far as we know, Zod is reportedly the main villain of the film, with Faora being the only other confirmed DC Villain in the film as well. There's always a chance of a secret cameo of another villain being in the film, but we wont' know that until the film's released.

Personally, the only feasible way that Lex being the main villain in the next film to this would work is if he had a group of super villains working for him since I think it's been somewhat proven that Lex by himself will not be enough for audiences for a superman film anymore.