The Official Pirates of The Caribbean: World's End Thread!

[HUMAN]

Since I created this thread I guess I should FINALLY give my opinion of the film...

Wow, this movie is SLOW! The previous entries were all action and story whereas this was just story with some fighting thrown in to spice up the movie. I felt as if the previous two were a sprint around the track while this 3rd film was just a walk to the finish line.

I liked the film, don't get me wrong, but compared to the other two this was just subpar throughout. It gave me the impression that they spent all their money on Dead Man's Chest and just got by with At World's End with spare change. And I see the desire to make the film "different" in Jerry Bruckheimer speak, it's just don't take the swashbuckling out of a swashbuckling film.

This was the first movie in the series that I actually checked my watch with. Hopefully, if they do a #4 it will have more of the action than COTBP or DMC. If they have less action than AWE, then it's going to be a bloody affair all throughout...

COTBP 8/10

DMC 9/10

AWE 7/10

'Nuff said!

 

[Darth Elektra]

PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: AT WORLD'S END


Domestic: $306,035,000 + Foreign: $634,072,000 = Worldwide: $940,107,000

 

[DarknessOfDeath]

Saw AWE for a third time, probably be the last time I see it in theatres but ah well. I enjoyed it more this time around. I can't wait for the DVD.

 

[PhoenixSparrow]

I hope they have the deleted scenes on the DVD, because some of them should have been in the film, like the Norrington one and the Beckett and Jack part!
And DarknessOfDeath, I love what's in you're signature! XD

 

[DarknessOfDeath]

I hope they have the deleted scenes on the DVD, because some of them should have been in the film, like the Norrington one and the Beckett and Jack part!
And DarknessOfDeath, I love what's in you're signature! XD

ah thanks.

I was thinking about doing cross-overs for when it comes to complex characters, Anakin and Elizabeth are...very interesting, aside Jean Grey, but Liz and Anakin are well they would have been a fine match in an alternate version of what transpired in that galaxy far far away or in the caribbean or vice versa -whatever... -shrugs-

 

[BloodyWolverine]

Did anyone notice that AWE just squeaked by Pirates 1 so both sequel made more money then its predacessor. A feet that Spiderman did not do.

 

[chaseter]

Did anyone notice that AWE just squeaked by Pirates 1 so both sequel made more money then its predacessor. A feet that Spiderman did not do.

I don't think Spider-Man did any feett: Unless he has a foot fetish Stan did not inform us about It is feat young padawan.

 

[BloodyWolverine]

I don't think Spider-Man did any feett: Unless he has a foot fetish Stan did not inform us about It is feat young padawan.

ha ha sorry i ment feat.

 

[L0ngsh0t]

Alright, aside from Star Wars, what other movies are critics changing their opinion about?

Resivour Dogs pre Pulp fiction was not the critic favorite it is today I think Siskel and Ebert actually did like a re-review after Pulp Fiction came out (It's on the RD dvd I believe) pretty much changing their reviews cause QT was now popular

Critics do what is popular of their ilk to do all the time, pretty much every best picture movie except the few that are actually good

 

[L0ngsh0t]

Yeah I'm aware RT wasn't around there. I took my info from wikipedia where they said 51 of the 54 original reviews yadda yadda.

However, saying Star Wars was "panned" by critics instead of "mixed" reviews are 2 entirely different things. And if you consider Star Wars "panned" than Pirates was "obliterated".

Honestly, I just don't agree with the comparison of Star Wars and Pirates. Star Wars is a phenomenon. Talk to me in 10 years about Pirates "holding up".

You also hate the series and are out of touch

I work at a summer camp, kids between 6-15 everyweek, guess what shirts they always have on, guess what movie they are always talking about? Pirates...guess what happens when me and my co-counselors theory craft Star Wars? They are close to clueless

I like star wars better, but you are really niave to think that Pirates has no chance of staying power, at least in this generation...it does, it may not have the difinitive staying power where me and my firends where playing star wars at the age of 10 or what not nearly 20 years after the movies came out, but this generation, and probably the next cause its all these kids favorite movies it is

 

[BloodyWolverine]

I can't believe 10 people voted 1 for this movie. I thin a 4 should be as low as it goes on these polls. For there are very few movies deserving a 1.

 

[Lady Stormcrow]

I think they should release dvds sooner in general! But I definatly cant wait for this one in particular.

 

[mehdi5]

Does anybody know if it will come to blu-ray at the same time as the DVD release?

 

[Erzengel]

You also hate the series and are out of touch

I don't hate the series.

I work at a summer camp, kids between 6-15 everyweek, guess what shirts they always have on, guess what movie they are always talking about? Pirates...guess what happens when me and my co-counselors theory craft Star Wars? They are close to clueless

And just like 2 years ago with Batman, and X-Men or this year with Spider-Man or back in 2002. They are called trends.

I like star wars better, but you are really niave to think that Pirates has no chance of staying power, at least in this generation...it does, it may not have the difinitive staying power where me and my firends where playing star wars at the age of 10 or what not nearly 20 years after the movies came out, but this generation, and probably the next cause its all these kids favorite movies it is

I didn't specifically say Pirates didn't have staying power, I said talk to me in 10 years. That was my whole point and unless you can see into the future, there's no way for you to know for sure.

 

[Erzengel]

Resivour Dogs pre Pulp fiction was not the critic favorite it is today I think Siskel and Ebert actually did like a re-review after Pulp Fiction came out (It's on the RD dvd I believe) pretty much changing their reviews cause QT was now popular

Critics do what is popular of their ilk to do all the time, pretty much every best picture movie except the few that are actually good

That's a stretch but even if I gave you Reservior Dogs, the point is at best it's few and far between.

 

[PowersOfMind]

I work at a summer camp, kids between 6-15 everyweek, guess what shirts they always have on, guess what movie they are always talking about? Pirates...guess what happens when me and my co-counselors theory craft Star Wars? They are close to clueless

Well if anybody is going to make Pirates a legacy like Star Wars those kids will be the ones to do it. My little sister, all my little cousins and the kids I watch at day care are the same way. They all want to be pirates and it's all they talk about.

 

[Darth Elektra]

Does anybody know if it will come to blu-ray at the same time as the DVD release?

Looks like it.

 

[Reek]

what about extended cuts?

 

[Reek]

another thing, watched DMC today, about to watch AWE...

Tia Dalma: "Would you brave the weird and haunted shores at world's end to fetch back witty jack and him precious pearl?"

where were these weird haunted shores? Singapore, no. DJLocker, no. anyone?

 

[BloodyWolverine]

Haunted shores could mean the ocean or river of the dead. You know like the river styxs. When teh pearl passes back the dead are floating in teh water doomed for all eternity. And the passing in the boats can symbolize Haunted fue to the passing dead souls.

 

[Darth Elektra]

what about extended cuts?

Probably not this year...

 

[PhoenixSparrow]

I think this could be a possible plot hole...
Do you know in DMC, when Davy comes onto the Black Pearl to Jack, and when their negotiating, Jack goes 'Have you not met Will Turner?...' And then it's only later, when Bill Turner tells Davy he finds out that it's Bill's son, but shouldn't it have been obvious when Jack said his name?
Ha, just thinking... XD

 

[Bastila]

I think this could be a possible plot hole...
Do you know in DMC, when Davy comes onto the Black Pearl to Jack, and when their negotiating, Jack goes 'Have you not met Will Turner?...' And then it's only later, when Bill Turner tells Davy he finds out that it's Bill's son, but shouldn't it have been obvious when Jack said his name?
Ha, just thinking... XD

or really he might have not cared about this person at the time when he was talking to Jack, to him at the time it might have been just another person, and it might have been a common name as well.
Thats nothing major.

 

[L0ngsh0t]

I don't hate the series.


And just like 2 years ago with Batman, and X-Men or this year with Spider-Man or back in 2002. They are called trends.


I didn't specifically say Pirates didn't have staying power, I said talk to me in 10 years. That was my whole point and unless you can see into the future, there's no way for you to know for sure.

the difference with Pirates vs Comic book characters which is why I think it has the closest chance of getting to the star wars level of staying power is comic book characters have a set world that they live in and set hero's, we read about them all the time, Batman is the hero yadda yadda, Gotham is his world

where Pirates and Star Wars is different, and it will remain to be seen how Disney plans on exploiting this like SW and Harry Potter have, with books, games, and possibly other movies, is that with the tinsey bit we've seen of other Pirating colonies, like Singapore and what not, there is obviously a lot more out there that we don't know about, and a lot more that has come before it

with Superhero's what is out there is out there, yes we add a villain and a storyline here and there (which is why I like X-men comic book wise the best cause it is a never ending universe) but you can only do so much in the world of Batman

With Pirates it's obvious the chance for more great adventures with (even without Jack Sparrow though I and most people wouldn't recommend it) out anyone from these movies returnning, we could do a prequel on early days of pirating with Blackbeard, and Red Beard, and Long John Silver etc, or Treasure Island, or continue the adventures of Jack Sparrow, and maybe find another fan favorite who may one day replace him

yes you are right it is a trend for now, but I think the excellent writting of elliot and russo have lent them the single best chance in the last 25 years since star wars of even coming close to the post trilogy success that franchise has had

 

[L0ngsh0t]

That's a stretch but even if I gave you Reservior Dogs, the point is at best it's few and far between.

More so what I was trying to get at is this

Critics do what is popular, and in the last 2 years it became popular to bash Pirates, all negitive reviews are all the same, all this crap about the plot being confusing and stuff that a more single minded person like yourself doesn't think the movies where bad for

Critics want to maintain the images they think for themseleves, but no critic wants to be the guy to praise Battlefield Earth, or pan Star Wars, so with big movies that is why the reviews all tend to be the same

this can be seen in the Matrix trilogy for starters

Matrix 1 turned out to be a phenomenom that swept the country and pretty much change action and special effects since then

Matrix 2 has a 81 percent (last time I checked) on RT, critics where afriad to pan it, in fear of a negative reaction to them from fans. I dunno about you, but even people like myself who think that movie gets to much of a hard time from fans, would still think that movie is worthy of such a high raiting (I would say like 65 would be good for it),

Matrix 3 comes out, and from the bad taste left in most peoples mouths fomr the second, and this movie plumets to the lower 40's of a raiting, cause most critics assume pan is the popular vote, I don't think Revolutions is great by any means, but a visual effects stopper like that deserves a raiting in the high 50's at least of effects alone imo

I like small releases a little better cause normally critics don't get a chance to see what others have said yet, and you'll get a couple critics that pan Babel (68 percent for a movie up for best picture?) or what not, but with big movies like this, no chance, what the popular critics do is what the majority of critics will do