Age of Ultron The Official Quicksilver thread

[terry78]

Frankly if it came down to it I'd rather this kid get the part than someone like Draco Malfoy, but we'll see how they handle it.

 

[Chewy]

The fact that a character like Quicksilver, not Wolverine, Spidey, F4 or Dr. Doom could be the origin of a public film studio spat is hilarious to me.

This spat will be the character's most infamous moment in no time

 

[SlamAdams]

If you'd like me to flower them up, I could.

Play up their not knowing how they can do what they do. Feeling different, growing up in a harsh environment. Then at the end, make it not matter. They now have a place, a home, as Avengers.

To add to this: introducing them as mysterious, unfolding theories and character motivations, and supporting those with actions and behavior is far less hollow screenwriting than some beginning exposition to get the sci-fi origin stuff out of the way. Comic book adaptations should try following these lines more often.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

To add to this: introducing them as mysterious, unfolding theories and character motivations, and supporting those with actions and behavior is far less hollow screenwriting than some beginning exposition to get the sci-fi origin stuff out of the way. Comic book adaptations should try following these lines more often.

 

[Eddie]

The fact that a character like Quicksilver, not Wolverine, Spidey, F4 or Dr. Doom could be the origin of a public film studio spat is hilarious to me.

For all we know, Viper could very well be causing issues between the studios as well, without public knowledge as of yet. Fox seems to be using her due to a loophole, but she is not really an X-Men character. Quicksilver is just a more notable example. The way I see it, we're either about to see a merger between film continuities (seemingly unlikely) or one heck of a battle that could get really ugly (more likely). Either way, the fine folks at Orville Redenbacher and Jolly Time are about to make a fortune. This could be really entertaining, in a trainwreck sort of way.

 

[SlamAdams]

For all we know, Viper could very well be causing issues between the studios as well, without public knowledge as of yet. Fox seems to be using her due to a loophole, but she is not really an X-Men character. Quicksilver is just a more notable example. The way I see it, we're either about to see a merger between film continuities (seemingly unlikely) or one heck of a battle that could get really ugly (more likely). Either way, the fine folks at Orville Redenbacher and Jolly Time are about to make a fortune. This could be really entertaining, in a trainwreck sort of way.

At least for Viper, Marvel can at least call her Madam Hydra if they ever feel like using her. That should quiet some confusion that may or may not happen. Honestly, I don't think too many non-comic people are going to be confused as to why there is 2 Quicksilvers, but they'll be confused as to why Wolverine and Spiderman aren't being used twice.

 

[Ant-manic]

For all we know, Viper could very well be causing issues between the studios as well, without public knowledge as of yet. Fox seems to be using her due to a loophole, but she is not really an X-Men character. Quicksilver is just a more notable example. The way I see it, we're either about to see a merger between film continuities (seemingly unlikely) or one heck of a battle that could get really ugly (more likely). Either way, the fine folks at Orville Redenbacher and Jolly Time are about to make a fortune. This could be really entertaining, in a trainwreck sort of way.

she's been married to Wolverine for awhile. Claremont seemed to like using her, in conjunction with Silver Samurai and Wolverine.

 

[Ultimatehero]

Also -- not exactly a relaunch but going down a different path with the first great X-Men films in a long time. And as said, Fox's manager wouldn't be where he is without being business savvy. Morons don't get to that position regardless of some people disagreeing with some of the moves they make.

Galactus is the example there that shows their position, HOWEVER Galactus is a much more powerful character. If it was me, I'd be okay with allowing smaller or supporting characters. BUT I would draw the lines at powerful villains. If MARVEL uses Galactus, then who would the Fantastic Four face? They need to retain that big threat without another studio beating them to the punch. So, FOX would never let them use the Skrulls, Galactus, or Doom because they need a threat for the FF.

 

[Shikamaru]

They asked for Silver Surfer and Galactus. As in for a Silver Surfer film, not FF.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Didn't Feige say it's a matter of who uses them first?

Yep.

Citation?

 

[mkilban2]

Still catching up on a few pages but, Couldn't Fox use him in DOFP and the same actor in Avenger 2.. You see he's related to Magneto and mutant in DOFP, then he leaves the group to go out on his own path or something at the end.. then in Avengers 2 we see him again, they won't have to say that he's Magneto's kid or a mutant and we can still see the same character right? Unless people would want to see an explaination of his powers again in Avengers 2 that's where it would get messy and tedious. I think it *could* work but it might be difficult.

 

[Eddie]

she's been married to Wolverine for awhile. Claremont seemed to like using her, in conjunction with Silver Samurai and Wolverine.

That still doesn't make her an X-Men character. By that logic, Fox can use the Black Panther because he had a notable relationship with Storm.

 

[KDM1986]

This is a stupid move by FOX. Marvel isn't goin to work with them anymore if they keep pulling this bull. First they axe Galactus and Silver Surfer now they add Quicksilver this late in the game out of spite. Pathetic

 

[mkilban2]

Maybe, and this is a big maybe, Fox will somehow fix the insanity of the X-Men universe in DOFP, and it could lead to the character of Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch transitioning into the MCU smoothly. Have his mutant/Magneto stuff in X-men movie and then have the same charater in the MCU but just don't mention the X-men stuff and develop the character more?

 

[Ultimatehero]

They asked for Silver Surfer and Galactus. As in for a Silver Surfer film, not FF.

That doesn't take anything away from the point. Why would they give Galactus away when they need Galactus for the Fantastic Four? There are only, or at least to me, three well known Fantastic Four villains -- Galactus, Doom, and the Skrulls. Why would they ever let another company beat them to the punch in using Galactus when they clearly need him as a NEW and ORIGINAL villain for the Fantastic Four? (Cloud face doesn't really count - mass audiences had no idea who that was) If the villain has been seen and thwarted before -- "been there, done that" and it will be measured up in "Galactus was far more of a threat here!!!" And that takes away from the villain. You always need a new and original threat, the exception being those iconic characters from the past (Joker and Harrison), and letting Galactus be shown in something prior? It would just be a really bad business move to make especially because they need that "new and original threat" for the FF not the "seen it before" threat. And just adding - no, I didn't forget Mole Man.

I can see the fan anger here. "We want a Silver Surfer movie, MARVEL wanted one, FOX banned them - damned FOX!" But the real story is -- they'd be giving away one of the biggest threats they have for the FF being NEW and powerful which they absolutely need. After they use him in FF? Maybe, maybe, they'll let up. But for now, they need to keep that one firmly guarded because depending on where this FF reboot goes - they have to be the first to show Galactus for it to make an impact as an original threat. Which granted, will make fans angry, but it is a very smart business move. If I was FOX I'd be more willing for Cyclops or even Wolverine to guest star in Avengers for a scene than to let them possibly portray Galactus first.

 

[Eddie]

This is a stupid move by FOX. Marvel isn't goin to work with them anymore if they keep pulling this bull. First they axe Galactus and Silver Surfer now they add Quicksilver this late in the game out of spite. Pathetic

If this really was a spite move, you can count on retaliation. We just might find out if the live action television rights to the X-Men really are held by Marvel Studios sooner than we thought.

 

[SlamAdams]

That still doesn't make her an X-Men character. By that logic, Fox can use the Black Panther because he had a notable relationship with Storm.

Wasn't BP and Storm after the contracts were negotiated? Wolverine and Spiderman have been regular Avengers for awhile now, but I bet they don't have access to them just because they wrote them into the comics.

 

[Eddie]

Wasn't BP and Storm after the contracts were negotiated? Wolverine and Spiderman have been regular Avengers for awhile now, but I bet they don't have access to them just because they wrote them into the comics.

Okay, then. If it works that way, Marvel can just mess with Fox by throwing Beast into an Avengers movie. He was an Avenger well before those contracts existed.

 

[Farren]

This is a stupid move by FOX. Marvel isn't goin to work with them anymore if they keep pulling this bull. First they axe Galactus and Silver Surfer now they add Quicksilver this late in the game out of spite. Pathetic

IMO both studios are stupid for not dealing with this issue sooner. I think Fox was too cowardly to assert their rights over SW and QS, and Marvel was probably waiting to see if Fox would make a move.

And now that Marvel has decided to make a claim to the characters, Fox probably feels like they have to put their foot down in order to establish their ownership. I don't think it's out of spite, I think it's a cold calculated business decision. (Albeit a very nasty one).

 

[Roose Bolton]

DofP looks amazing so it's no skin off my back.

Wanda was the real character they need, she's always felt like more of an Avenger than Pietro.

 

[SlamAdams]

Okay, then. If it works that way, Marvel can just mess with Fox by throwing Beast into an Avengers movie. He was an Avenger well before those contracts existed.

If it works for Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch, I bet that would work. Although, from what I have learned from since this first started is that just because the Maximoffs are mutants and he children of Magneto, they have been much more closely associated with Avengers than X-Men. I don't think I could say the same for Beast, but I bet Fiege has some leeway with him.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

IMO both studios are stupid for not dealing with this issue sooner. I think Fox was too cowardly to assert their rights over SW and QS, and Marvel was probably waiting to see if Fox would make a move.

And now that Marvel has decided to make a claim to the characters, Fox probably feels like they have to put their foot down in order to establish their ownership. I don't think it's out of spite, I think it's a cold calculated business decision. (Albeit a very nasty one).

They both have the rights.

 

[Shikamaru]

I'm still waiting for someone to post an official link which confirms that whoever uses the characters first establishes ownership. I have found no evidence whatsoever for that to be true.

In fact, there is evidence to show that it is not true:
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Skip to about 2:10.

 

[Spider-Vader]

I wonder if Marvel can throw the twins into an episode of SHIELD before DOFP comes out?

 

[SlamAdams]

I'm still waiting for someone to post an official link which confirms that whoever uses the characters first establishes ownership. I have found no evidence whatsoever for that to be true.

In fact, there is evidence to show that it is not true:
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Skip to about 2:10.

I didnt think people were saying they can't. I thought people were saying they won't.