The Official Stupid Question Thread: Marvel Edition - Part 2

[Varient]

Could Magneto lift Mjölnir with his powers?

And Magneto has ****ed Iron Man up before right?

If he could pull Kitty pride and an enourmous Bullet moving away at high speed several STAR SYSTEMS AWAY,.. Mjolnir would be no problem. Since he's not laying a hand on it the enchantment of worthyness doesn't apply.
(Grumble - Another reason to hate the red Hulk.)

On the other,.. You'd Think Tony Stark was smarter rite?

 

[WolfCypher]

OK, HOW is Magneto not an Omega level?

And what was the explanation to why Ben kept changing back to and from the Thing during Secret Wars?

 

[Havok83]

OK, HOW is Magneto not an Omega level?

And what was the explanation to why Ben kept changing back to and from the Thing during Secret Wars?

bc he doesnt have unlimited potential. He reached his peak a long time ago. Probably Fatal Attractions or better yet Magneto War. Since then the guy has tired out, needed Fabian Cortez to give him boosters, used Polaris to augment his powers, etc.... Even now back with the X-men, he's not at the levels he was back in the 80s/early 90s. Most omegas also seem to have the potential to transcend their physical being and exist in a high energy/ elemental form (ex. Iceman, Phoenix, Vulcan), which Magneto should also given the electromagnetic nature of his powers, but he cant

 

[javi1024]

I think he still has some juice left in him if he can sense, redirect, guide, and finally disassemble Kitty's giant magic bullet from who knows how far away in space.

 

[Havok83]

I think he still has some juice left in him if he can sense, redirect, guide, and finally disassemble Kitty's giant magic bullet from who knows how far away in space.

That came after getting a major boost from the Celestial machinery which repowered him. He went into a coma following that and has since been written slightly more powerful than his weaker levels from the late 90s

 

[runawayboulder]

Mags does kinda need to be powered down a bit if they want to use him on a team like they are. That's why the Omega mutant concept is rubbish, characters end up painted in a corner because of it.

 

[Anubis]

Powerful characters are only a problem for bad writers, which is most writers when you get down to it.

 

[moraldeficiency]

Too powerful, as in gods like omegas are problems for everyone. Hard to give a threat when you have several people that are basically all powerful.

The concept of omegas are stupid and should be just left to die. The only way I could see them being used well is if they went the way the X-Men go with normal humans in regards to other mutants. Start their own group homosuperior-superiors and start talking about how all those "normal" mutants are holding them back. That could play.

 

[Drz]

Did Stan Lee write the Avengers back in the 60s or was Jack Kirby/Steve Ditko/Someone secretly assisting him? Wondering because the Avengers Omnibus (collects #1-30) is kinda cheap right now, but it only has 8 issues drawn by Kirby so the purchase would be based off writing wise.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Re: Magneto and Mjolnir. When Thor and Mags fought back in the Journey into Mystery days, Magneto never actually used his powers on Mjolnir itself. He only used his magnetic force field to repel it and keep it from hitting him. Then Thor used Mjolnir to absorb the energy from his force field and left him defenseless anyway. I'm not saying he absolutely couldn't use his powers on Mjolnir, but there are a lot of factors beyond just "hey, metal hammer, master of magnetism, no-brainer!" to consider. The hammer's a pretty unique type of metal, it's enchanted on top of that, and it has its own energy absorption abilities.

Although this now has me wondering about the opposite side of that coin: If Magneto couldn't affect magic metals, what about cosmic metals? Could he twist the Silver Surfer into knots with his powers? That'd be kind of weird.

 

[The Morningstar]

Silver Surfer would just open a black hole on Mags face before he even realises he's in a fight.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, yeah, and Thor could throw a godblast at Mags that would tear through his force fields like paper and atomize him. But that's not really the issue.

 

[The Morningstar]

Why? WHY? WHY!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Because we are geeks and we are curious about geeky things.

 

[The Morningstar]

Why? WHY? W...

Ok i'll stop. But hmmm it is an interesting question. But is Surfer actually made out of some kind of metal?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

He's silver and shiny, so I assume something in whatever it is that covers him must be metallic.

But, since you bring it up, is there any reason to assume uru (the magic metal that only exists in Asgard that Thor's hammer is made of) is magnetic in the first place? People seem to take it for granted that it must be so that Magneto's powers could work on it at all.

 

[Manic]

Yeah, it's worth noting that not all metals are ferromagnetic. Magneto's powers seem to work on everything because the most commonly used metals are iron and steel (which is partially composed on iron in the first place). If you've got a magnet at home, try to use it on a piece of lead or chrome; it doesn't work.

 

[slim_summers]

I never read Thor or Silver Surfer's solo stuff, so moving away from Mags for a second, have Thor and Surfer ever duked it out and if so, who won? If they haven't, who would win?

 

[Anubis]

They've fought plenty of times and I believe they've both won a few.

 

[javi1024]

Did they ever explain how Black Panther was able to just knock Silver Surfer off his board a couple years back, in think during Civil War? That just sounds improbable to me.

 

[The Morningstar]

Really, Surfer should just hit Thor with a 1000x faster than light speed blitz where he lands hundreds of planet busting blows on his face before he realises he's being attacked. But that would make for a really boring comic.

The Surfer/Black Panther thing was just really bad writing. I mean all comics have PIS to some degree, otherwise they would be boring. But that example was just... ugh. Terrible writing.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Nobody with super-speed actually fights using super-speed in comics unless it's their only power. I've kind of gotten used to it, even though pretty much every fight involving the Surfer, Thor, Superman, and a whole host of others should only last about the blink of an eye. Part of the whole suspension of disbelief thing.

 

[Varient]

Did they ever explain how Black Panther was able to just knock Silver Surfer off his board a couple years back, in think during Civil War? That just sounds improbable to me.

The last time we talked about this,.. I pointed out the fact that given enough reason,.. the Surfer always lets himself get pushed around enough to find out what's really going on.

We can name incident after incident where he lets others try to hurt him while he stops to talk to them.

I remember him knocked off his board by the Thing, Used as a Weed-wacker by the Hulk, The guy is better than Kryptonian invulnerable when he WANTS TO BE.

I think the only rule in this nonsense is the sincerity that you try.

Having said that,... he was listening before the Panther got to him,...

or,.............

The tens of times someone from Earth was able to effect a being who can travel at faster than light speeds and still turn on a dime, who can be as strong as he wants and manipulate energy on the level of Stars - was just bad writing.

 

[JewishHobbit]

Something about the current stuff in Fantastic Four just has me so curious. Is it something that's a fairly self contained arc or is it a typical Hickman story where I should really start from the first issue of his run to fully appreciate it?

Also, is FF (post Fantastic Four 600) necessary reading for the main Fantastic Four title?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

You could probably just pick it up from Fantastic Four #600. I assume you were aware that Johnny "died" prior to that, right? That and the fact that there was a council of evil alternate-reality Reeds who got wiped out by Celestials are all you really need to know. You don't need to read FF for the story, either. They're connected but Hickman's been keeping them fairly independent by focusing on the main Fantastic Four in their eponymous series and Val, Franklin, and Nathaniel Richards in FF.