The Official Stupid Question Thread: Marvel Edition - Part 4

[JewishHobbit]

I've never even heard of that, so I'm going to say yes.

 

[Lord]

I've never even heard of that, so I'm going to say yes.

For some reason in the 60s marvel heroes were *****es to each other

 

[runawayboulder]

Do Spider-man and the wasp eventually drop their "Spiders and Wasps are natural enemies" act? It kinda came out of nowhere in the old comics.

Comics prior to the 80's were cheesy as hell.

 

[JewishHobbit]

For some reason in the 60s marvel heroes were *****es to each other

Funny thing that...

 

[Lord]

Comics prior to the 80's were cheesy as hell.

From the letter pages i see in some of Marvel's 60s comics the fans look much smarter than what the comics they release would lead me to believe, they constantly complain about the dialogue, and will openly cricise anything they feel is off

 

[StreetWarrior]

Comics prior to the 80's were cheesy as hell.

Cheese is not reserved to only a few decades. There are issues printed now with akward dialogue and there's still the absurdity where heroes MUST fight each other (regardless of familiarity) before teaming up against a common threat. However, the 80's was a GREAT time for comics...

The late 80's/early 90's Punisher stuff still holds up surprisingly well, aside from some long-retired slang used in the dialogue. Art has definitely improved with time though.

 

[Panthro]

For some reason in the 60s marvel heroes were *****es to each other

What comic heroes weren't *****es to each other back then - or now for that matter?

 

[Lord]

Modern comics can have corny dialogue, but not near as bad as old comics imo

What comic heroes weren't *****es to each other back then - or now for that matter?

They don't start insulting others they don't know right after meeting for the first time without a decente reason, and when heroes actually fight each other it's due to a bigger misunderstanding or they just want to settle something, in the 60s they would casually send attacks to their partners that could hurt them badly. When a teenager hero did a prank it would normally be in bad taste and very dangerous.

 

[KevanG]

These days these darn kids have pranks that escalate to wars and negating all of reality. Dang nabbit!

 

[smallville fan]

Ok for a total newcomer to all things X-Men/Avengers/Marvel comics in general, where do you exactly start guys? When I look at Marvel Now, it doesn't seem ideal though. My friend's been into DC and he's wanting to branch into Marvel stuff where should we look?(Even I'm not sure of the answer myself)

On a side note, if anyone's reading Transformers comics, I have more questions as well.

 

[JewishHobbit]

Honestly, most comics right now are best at their new #1's.

If you want the X-Men Universe:

All New X-Men #1
Uncanny X-Men #1 (though this started after the first arc of All New X-Men)

If you want the Avengers Universe:

Avengers #1
New Avengers #1

Other Marvel stuff:

Thor: God of Thunder #1

Daredevil ??? - I'm not sure where it's best to start but it's worth reading. This next issue might be a great jumping on point as the last issue wrapped up a long-running plot, but I could be wrong. I say just jump in.


I think those are the most easily accessible titles. I'd also recommend Uncanny Avengers, but I think you should probably start by getting the trades for Remender's Uncanny X-Force, then Avengers vs. X-Men, and then Uncanny Avengers.

 

[javi1024]

I'd also tag on Wolverine and the X-Men to JewishHobbit's list. It's older than All-New X-Men and the new Uncanny X-Men, but it will also give you a foundation on where the X-Men are leading up the AvX and the current Marvel Now. It also acts as a "sister title" of sorts to All-New, where both titles deal with the X-Men at the Jean Grey School. It's all fun and adventurous whereas All-New is more serious in tone and dialogue-heavy (that's not a complaint, mind you). It's not a necessary title, but if your budget is flexible and you're open to a lighter take on the X-Men it's definitely worth a read.

 

[Havok83]

Wolverine and the X-men is awful. It was pretty good when it debuted but went downhill after AvX. Its too slapstick happy and comedic hijinks for me and focuses on the kids who are for the most part not all that interesting.

I will add that X-men is worth a try. It recently debuted with a #1 and is up to issue 2 so its a great time to jump on. The art is amazing and the story so far has been entertaining

 

[JewishHobbit]

Wolverine & the X-Men has definitely gone down hill, which is partially why I didn't mention it. Also, if they're looking for jumping on points, W&tXM is a hard one. It's had a semi-ongoing story since issue 1 a few years ago and even issue 1 could probably use Schism to explain why it's separate from Cyclops' team. And with that said, it might also help to read Gillen's Uncanny X-Men to get Cyclops' side of the story. It might not be so difficult, but it's easier to just recommend Bendis' two X-Men books and call it done.

The new adjectiveless X-Men book could be a good recommendation, but I was just sticking to the core X-Books since there are so many. But X-Men has been decent, so it's not a bad recommendation.

 

[smallville fan]

Honestly, most comics right now are best at their new #1's.

If you want the X-Men Universe:

All New X-Men #1
Uncanny X-Men #1 (though this started after the first arc of All New X-Men)

If you want the Avengers Universe:

Avengers #1
New Avengers #1

Other Marvel stuff:

Thor: God of Thunder #1

Daredevil ??? - I'm not sure where it's best to start but it's worth reading. This next issue might be a great jumping on point as the last issue wrapped up a long-running plot, but I could be wrong. I say just jump in.


I think those are the most easily accessible titles. I'd also recommend Uncanny Avengers, but I think you should probably start by getting the trades for Remender's Uncanny X-Force, then Avengers vs. X-Men, and then Uncanny Avengers.

Aren't those in continuity with other stuff I should know about? What I'm looking for are all new stories which are kind of in their own continuity. For example this was released when the Avengers movie came out so new readers could get into Avengers and it was in its own continuity(I felt):

 

[Havok83]

All New X-men and Uncanny X-men are both pretty self contained. They are sister titles, and are best read together as there is bleed over, but you don't need to read any other books to get a full understanding of the story. Those are really the only titles Ive been reading consistently this year and Ive been fine. Havok's speech from Uncanny Avengers was utilized in the most recent issue of ANX, but they even printed the same exact page from UA in ANX for those who missed it, so its been really reader friendly to follow.

This may or not be a good thing depending on how you look at it but Marvel is really loose with continuity these days. Considering so many characters are now in multiple books, they tend to operate without being too dependent on other books except for crossover time.

 

[runawayboulder]

It's kinda sad how WATXM has tanked as of late. Way too much of the Hellfire Kids. It was such a great book at one time but has gotten to the point of unreadable. I should probably consider dropping it. It's like Aaron has stopped putting any effort into it since getting Thor (where he's kicking all sorts of epic ass).

 

[Havok83]

He's STILL writing about the Hellfire Kids? Why the heck hasnt Wolverine killed them off already or at the very least SHIELD apprehended them?

 

[runawayboulder]

He's STILL writing about the Hellfire Kids? Why the heck hasnt Wolverine killed them off already or at the very least SHIELD apprehended them?

LOL, they JUST started an arc called The Hellfire Saga.

Those little bastards are still hanging around 2 years after Schism. I don't like it when Wolverine get stab happy but at times like these.......

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Aren't those in continuity with other stuff I should know about? What I'm looking for are all new stories which are kind of in their own continuity. For example this was released when the Avengers movie came out so new readers could get into Avengers and it was in its own continuity(I felt):

Avengers Assemble is in continuity with everything else Marvel's slapping "Avengers" on the cover of these days.

 

[smallville fan]

Avengers Assemble is in continuity with everything else Marvel's slapping "Avengers" on the cover of these days.

Ok....didn't feel like it when I was reading it. How may I ask? It seemed like it was its own thing made to satisfy newcomers to comics who really liked the movie.

Oh according to comixology, it says that for newcomers I should look into Astonishing X-Men vol.3 for X-Men comics. Is this good? I'm still not sure about following the newer ones which seem to follow up on stuff like Avengers vs X-Men. How about the First Class comics? Are they good?

 

[Manic]

The X-Men First Class comics are amazing. They're basically a bunch of one-shot or two-issue stories that take place back when Cyclops, Jean, Iceman, Angel, and Beast were still students. They're a lot of fun if you just wanna read a decent X-Men comic without all the years of continuity.

 

[Havok83]

Ok....didn't feel like it when I was reading it. How may I ask? It seemed like it was its own thing made to satisfy newcomers to comics who really liked the movie.

Oh according to comixology, it says that for newcomers I should look into Astonishing X-Men vol.3 for X-Men comics. Is this good? I'm still not sure about following the newer ones which seem to follow up on stuff like Avengers vs X-Men. How about the First Class comics? Are they good?

Astonishing X-men is awful and I wouldn't recommend it. They may have been recommending Whedon's run but that was back in 2005 and really not relevant to today's X-men. Really All New and Uncanny are the only two essential X-books at the moment.

 

[The Question]

Ok....didn't feel like it when I was reading it. How may I ask? It seemed like it was its own thing made to satisfy newcomers to comics who really liked the movie.

It just is. All of the events of the book are canon. They may have cut back on references to past stories for the sake of new readers but it's still in continuity.

 

[JewishHobbit]

It led into Guardians of the Galaxy.