The Official Superman Score & Soundtrack Thread - Part 1

[Wheels]

He speaks the truth.

 

[Wheels]

Also I find it funny that Elevator Man thinks Shore would believe he's above working with Snyder. Peter Jackson's most notable fllm before LOTR was The Frighteners, and that's no masterpiece, but Shore worked with him.

 

[Elevator Man]

Also I find it funny that Elevator Man thinks Shore would believe he's above working with Snyder. Peter Jackson's most notable fllm before LOTR was The Frighteners, and that's no masterpiece, but Shore worked with him.

That's your opinion. I also said that he did score the third Twilight movie and he did work with Kevin Smith on Dogma. So maybe he isn't above working with Snyder. It ain't going to happen anyways b/c he's scoring two Hobbit movies back to back. One of them comes out 2013. So keep dreaming if you believe he has a shot at scoring MOS.

 

[Wheels]

The Frighteners is a decent film but it's nothing mind blowing.You're not going to find many people who think it's a great film.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

Piece of advice, antman

Don't respond to Elevator Man.

Just don't.

 

[Naite22]

I really really hope and wish for them incorporating the original Superman theme! I know this is new times, and this is Superman in all new ways. But for the love of God! Don't throw out the most badass & (imo) BEST and most iconic movie theme EVER, and replace it with something new! PLEASE use it in some form dear people! The Superman theme is so strong and powerful, it beats the Star Wars theme any day of the week... Bring in Williams and have him do a new updated version, personally.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

Not happening and not happening.

 

[Naite22]

Not happening and not happening.

Just for arguments sake, why do you say that? Why man, WHYY!!t: Are you saying you don't want it, or simply that they won't use it. And again, how do you know that?

 

[Wheels]

Well for starters, there's no way John Williams will score this film.

 

[Naite22]

Well for starters, there's no way John Williams will score this film.

I wouldn't be to hasty saying that. He probably won't, but that still doesn't mean it's out of the question for them re-using the old theme. Whatever happens I'll deal with it of course. But I really want that theme though.

 

[Wheels]

Spielberg and Lucas are the only ones Williams will get off his butt for these days.

 

[El Payaso]

I really really hope and wish for them incorporating the original Superman theme! I know this is new times, and this is Superman in all new ways. But for the love of God! Don't throw out the most badass & (imo) BEST and most iconic movie theme EVER, and replace it with something new! PLEASE use it in some form dear people! The Superman theme is so strong and powerful, it beats the Star Wars theme any day of the week... Bring in Williams and have him do a new updated version, personally.

And Christopher Reeve's presence will never be surpassed, so they either bring him back or don't do the movie.

Unless............. this is a new fresh take completely unattached to the previous franchise.

I wouldn't be to hasty saying that. He probably won't, but that still doesn't mean it's out of the question for them re-using the old theme. Whatever happens I'll deal with it of course. But I really want that theme though.

This is a reboot that has no connection to the previous franchise except that's based on the same character. So I would be hasty, categorical, unequivocal and emphatic to say Williams won't be scoring MoS.

 

[Elevator Man]

Piece of advice, antman

Don't respond to Elevator Man.

Just don't.

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And Christopher Reeve's presence will never be surpassed, so they either bring him back or don't do the movie.

Unless............. this is a new fresh take completely unattached to the previous franchise.

Don't you ever get tired of saying that? B/c I sure do.

This is a reboot that has no connection to the previous franchise except that's based on the same character. So I would be hasty, categorical, unequivocal and emphatic to say Williams won't be scoring MoS.

Hey he can still dream can he?

I think another interesting choice would be Marco Beltrami. Especially if Snyder approaches the film the way I think he will. Beltrami can give the score some edge. Besides I think he's underrated. And could use a project like this.

 

[El Payaso]

Don't you ever get tired of saying that? B/c I sure do.

Same statement deserves same answer. I certainly get bored nof hearing that the theme should be there merely because it's so cool or they grew up with it.

Hey he can still dream can he?

We all are entitled to dream and then come to terms with reality.

 

[mclay18]

Peter Jackson's most notable fllm before LOTR was The Frighteners, and that's no masterpiece, but Shore worked with him.

I actually think PJ's most notable film was Heavenly Creatures, not The Frighteners. The latter was more recent, but the former is when people started noticing PJ as more than just a "B-movie schlock director."

 

[Ultimatehero]

I'm actually terrified now that they'll completely delete the Superman theme. I hope they keep it - just update it and bring more of an alien spirit to it. Kind of like how radio introduced kryptonite. The films introduced many things -- Christopher Reeve's legacy being among them, but I'd say that theme song is now a staple when anyone hears it. They just struck gold with that one.

 

[RetrogradeOrbit]

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What he said...

 

[El Payaso]

Well, the theme is Donner franchise's and this is not Donner's franchise.

Everything Superman has had a different theme ever since - with barely some cheap nod to the Williams theme thyat should be avoided.

 

[RetrogradeOrbit]

I can understand why the Williams theme/march will (almost certainly) not be used. But I will miss it nevertheless... and hang onto the slimmest of hopes someone just sneaks it in somewhere

 

[El Payaso]

I can understand why the Williams theme/march will (almost certainly) not be used. But I will miss it nevertheless... and hang onto the slimmest of hopes someone just sneaks it in somewhere

I wish the digitally put Christopher Reeve's face and voice over whoever plays Superman.

 

[Elevator Man]

I wish the digitally put Christopher Reeve's face and voice over whoever plays Superman.

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[Ultimatehero]

Everything Superman has had a different theme ever since - with barely some cheap nod to the Williams theme thyat should be avoided.

You call it cheap, I call it reverential. But even you just admitted that everything Superman ever since then has had a nod to Superman's classic theme. I don't see how this is any different than anything since then. Even 'Smallville,' which doesn't line up with Donnerverse used it, and fans would get excited every time they paid respects to it. To me that shows it's become as stapled-on as kryptonite, which as said, the comics didn't invent it - a radio show did - and it staid around ever since then in the same manner as the theme has. As for why it's different from the Batman theme -- while it is iconic among fans, it was never really used beyond film thus restricting it. Here? You play three notes and everyone around the world knows who it is. That's how often it's used. I'm not saying replicate the whole score -- I'm saying, do the same as "everything Superman -- with nod to the William theme" has done since then for years. To me saying disregard it just because it came from a prior film, is along the same lines as saying disregard kryptonite because it came from a radio show. Primarily because the world is so used to it by now that without it would just seem odd and trying to be different for the sake of it.

 

[Elevator Man]

I'm not saying replicate the whole score -- I'm saying, do the same as "everything Superman -- with nod to the William theme" has done since then for years. To me saying disregard it just because it came from a prior film, is along the same lines as saying disregard kryptonite because it came from a radio show. Primarily because the world is so used to it by now that without it would just seem odd and trying to be different for the sake of it.

Thank you.

 

[El Payaso]

You call it cheap, I call it reverential. But even you just admitted that everything Superman ever since then has had a nod to Superman's classic theme.

No.

I said "Everything Superman has had a different theme ever since."

That's quite different, isn't it? And then some of them - namely one short-lived cartoon series and Smallville - did some nods.

I don't see how this is any different than anything since then.

This is supposed to be a serious movie not attached to the previous franchise, not just some random fun where anything goes for rating.

Even 'Smallville,' which doesn't line up with Donnerverse used it, and fans would get excited every time they paid respects to it.

I don't want to even start to list how terribly messy Smallville was about Superman's myth. And they did have the crystal-like FoS just as another cheap nod.

And that's exactly what I call "cheap": to pull the fans' strings with some needless nod.

To me that shows it's become as stapled-on as kryptonite, which as said, the comics didn't invent it - a radio show did - and it staid around ever since then in the same manner as the theme has.

No. If it were, every new incarnation would have used it as the main theme, and it's far from being the case.

As for why it's different from the Batman theme -- while it is iconic among fans, it was never really used beyond film thus restricting it.

It was used in commercials and I don't know if Batman TAS rings a bell?

But again, a popularity contest is not a valid reason to include the theme. Elfman's bat-theme wasn't included in Nolan's movies NOT because of the "it wasn't as popular as Williams' super-theme' criterion, but because it was a different franchise, vision and tone. Just like this new movie.

Here? You play three notes and everyone around the world knows who it is.

Same with Batman's theme.

I'm not saying replicate the whole score -- I'm saying, do the same as "everything Superman -- with nod to the William theme" has done since then for years.

In barely two incarnations of the character after SIV.

To me saying disregard it just because it came from a prior film, is along the same lines as saying disregard kryptonite because it came from a radio show. Primarily because the world is so used to it by now that without it would just seem odd and trying to be different for the sake of it.

Adding an element to thge story is different than using some music to state the mood and tone of a specific franchise.

If you think it's odd trying to be different for the sake of it, I say why trying to be different from the Donner's franchise when - just like with the Williams score - when everybody in the world knows that franchise and it has been nodded in Smallville.

 

[Ultimatehero]

Did some nods -- so you're not saying no. And as I said, don't completely copy the score, but give reference to it? Why not? Smallville wasn't small either, it's been the Superman iteration in the main stream for TEN years. Hell, it went on to inspire, if I'm not mistaken, one or two of the comics this film is inspired by. It made a impact in comic lore, that says something - plus it's rare for a series to last that long, regardless of your feelings about it - everyone can see how big a feat that is.

Anything goes? What? How would it not fit? How is the theme not serious? Do you realize how differently a couple notes can be played? Those notes can be altered and changed around to fit any given tone that's how music works. It's so iconic because of how simple it is - the notes are basically just "saying" Superman. How is that silly? It's smart.

I don't care if you think it's cheap. Some fans don't think it is. Different strokes, different folks. Nuff said.

Batman TAS is a lot different from a show that's been on primetime cable for 10 years. And the Superman a new generation grew up with.

Popularity does come into play. People hear it and instantly know it's Superman. Worldwide. That makes it iconic and a staple. Batman's theme isn't that iconic. This is coming from a Batman guy. Among fans, yes. Among world populace, good - yes, known - not even. It's far too complicated to pick up on easily. But this also has to do with how much Superman has effected pop culture overall.

Because it would be just for the sake of it. To me it's like making Spider-Man's hands silver. Or possibly deleting the Daily Bugle. Same problems some fans are calling into play on Spider-Man, I'm calling into play here if they don't include it. It's not a new fan reaction.

Different strokes, different folks as said earlier. You don't want it. I do. You're not right. I'm not right.

This doesn't come down to fact or opinion - that would be silly.

And if we're both rational we can agree to that.