The Official Superman Thread - Part 2

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-Morales' pencils remind me strongly of Bagley's on Ultimate Spider-Man
-Which is neat, but the googly eyes, not so much
-I love the little winks and nods to the first Action Comics #1
-"Faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive, able to leap tall buildings in a single bound..."
-Speaking of Spider-Man, a lot of this is straight from Spider-Man 2
-Lots of numerology and astronomy- foreshadowing?

This issue was lots of things. Mostly great things. I'm following this.
 
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Action #1 was awesome and the best of the week. For once I can relate with Superman and not just Clark Kent. I enjoyed his characterization because Morrison has done was JMS failed horribly at doing in Earth One, I think. Luthors master plan was awesome and next week has me really really excited.
 
Well that was an exhilarating book.

Also, the two men and blonde woman remark was definitely referencing the Legion.

God damn it. I was trying to figure out who they could've been. Ashamed that I didn't think of that. :doh:
 
On page 28, you can see that figure in the red hood, like in JL, during Victors game.
 
Loved this issue. I was one of the loudest people complaining about this new 52 but as it got closer the more excited I got. This issue was just great, Superman being my fav. character this just put a smile on my face the whole time I was reading it.
 
I liked how the businessman was yelling......"Somebody SAVE Me!!" :cwink:
 
I liked how the businessman was yelling......"Somebody SAVE Me!!" :cwink:

What did you think of the issue? I know you didn't seem to like the direction Morrison was going in.
 
What did you think of the issue? I know you didn't seem to like the direction Morrison was going in.

Well, having just read it, my thoughts on it are still kind of raw.....

Overall......I would say the issue was.........ok.

And really, that's kind of how I'm feeling about it right now. Neutral.

I didn't find myself really hating or loathing anything in particular. Yet, I didn't really find myself super excited about anything ( no pun intended ).

As someone who's "ideal" Superman is more in line with the "boy scout" version, I knew going into this that this was going to be a different Superman.

Yes, I know from the comments here that this Superman is more in line with the early Superman......how he behaved when he was first created.

But, personally, that's not the Superman that I know and love. If Superman had stayed pretty much the way he was when he debuted, well, I don't think I would like the character nearly as much.

And I know that Action Comics is portraying a younger Superman, one who is still trying to figure out his place ( and his powers ). However, for me, Superman is more than just his powers. His morals, his behavior are also super. And that's due in part largely to his upbringing in Smallville by his adopted parents.

The young Superman in this Action Comics has noble ideals. He has good intentions. I can see that and I get that.

However, I still think I would have preferred a Superman who believes in all that, yet also believes in using violence only when it is necessary. One who understands just how powerful he is, and is therefore, HUMBLE AND CAREFUL about that power ( no taunting the cops, for example ).

A Superman who comes into Metropolis and tries to lead by example, by being respectful, decent, and using less violence, who is still hated and hounded by the cops/military, I would find that much more interesting than a reckless/gung ho Superman who, ironically, does give the authorities good reason to be suspicious/fearful of him.

Also, I didn't like how General Lane was portrayed. It's the typical "military bad man" who would endanger CIVILIANS IN A CITY to get his target. The only civilian General Lane seems to care about is Lois, nevermind all the other people endangered on the train. It's just an unrealistic, cliched portrayal of the "evil military general".

As for Lois and Jimmy.......not really much to judge.....

Lex was interesting, although I didn't really like the way he was drawn......

Again, nothing that I really hated. Just didn't really get me excited.

I will give the book a chance. I will also see how "older" Superman acts in his own book. If I see that there are signs of growth and maturation of the character, then I might continue reading.

But, if the Superman of the DCnU is largely the same as the young Clark in Action Comics.....well......that's not really the Superman I'm interested in reading........

Or, put another way, if this was my very first exposure to Superman, I don't think I'd like the character much........I might read a few more issues before decding to drop the book......
 
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That was definitely a more positive review than I expected from you.
 
That was definitely a more positive review than I expected from you.

yeah.....lol.

I just don't think it's fair to judge the book when the 1st issue was just released. and when there are a few more titles to come out. I'm actually more interested in Conner and Kara's books than Superman's.......

I guess you could say I'm still in the "unconvinced" camp for the Super family books........
 
yeah.....lol.

I just don't think it's fair to judge the book when the 1st issue was just released. and when there are a few more titles to come out. I'm actually more interested in Conner and Kara's books than Superman's.......

I guess you could say I'm still in the "unconvinced" camp for the Super family books........

I grew up with the boy scout Superman as well, so I understand your feelings, but I enjoy Golden Age Superman also. I just can't really buy into boy scout Superman's faith in the government and the justice system anymore.
 
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The "present day" Superman makes an appearance in Swamp Thing #1, where he acts much more like the familiar Supes. Give that a try if you're still worried where they're headed with Clark's character.
 
But that's stupid. The new DC universe is not going to consist solely of Morrison's work.

More so thematically than literally as the man himself has always stated. No it won't consist solely of Morrison's work and it won't consist of the work of many others either. Things are being explained as they progress so quit worrying about semantics I say and just watch how it unfolds.
 
Just getting around to my comics. Got 4 of the new DC Number Ones and I've read this and Batgirl #1 and LOVED both of them, but especially this. I didn't follow this reboot extremely closely, can someone tell me what the difference in Action and Superman is going to be?
 
Is it better to collect variant covers over the original cover when you want to keep it unopened and hopefully becomes valuable in say 100 YEARS??
 
While I'd hardly say it's the be all end all to Superman, it was a really good issue. Everyone's characterization was spot on, and Superman's more hard edged personally did work really well, I think.
 
Just getting around to my comics. Got 4 of the new DC Number Ones and I've read this and Batgirl #1 and LOVED both of them, but especially this. I didn't follow this reboot extremely closely, can someone tell me what the difference in Action and Superman is going to be?


Action takes place in the past for the first arc, Superman takes place in the present.
 
Okay the negative parts

- The Superman costume. Couldn't they have come up with some better Proto-Superman look
- Clark Kent and Superman are drawn like they are 13 years old, sorry you can look more mature than that even in your early 20s or something and Superman should do that
- The social crusader thing is kinda done in a clumsy and naive way
- General Lane's whole chracter
- it feels forced


The good parts
- well, it's promising...

I rate it a 7 or 6.5 out of 10
 
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I liked that Clark looked quite different to Superman.

Lex Luthor looked more offbeat and less debonair.

The bullet train situation set up was a little rushed, but clever.

I liked that Superman is still figuring out his powers. And that the issue harkened back to the original Action Comics #1 with the social justice issues.
 
The "present day" Superman makes an appearance in Swamp Thing #1, where he acts much more like the familiar Supes. Give that a try if you're still worried where they're headed with Clark's character.

thanks.....but I doubt I will pick up Swamp Thing just to read Supes.......lol

may I ask how "present day" Superman behaves in Swamp Thing #1??
 
Again, nothing that I really hated. Just didn't really get me excited.

I will give the book a chance. I will also see how "older" Superman acts in his own book. If I see that there are signs of growth and maturation of the character, then I might continue reading.

But, if the Superman of the DCnU is largely the same as the young Clark in Action Comics.....well......that's not really the Superman I'm interested in reading........

Or, put another way, if this was my very first exposure to Superman, I don't think I'd like the character much........I might read a few more issues before decding to drop the book......
Ditto. :up:
 
Action Comics #1 This is the new standard for #1 introductions to a solo protagonist, i can't even remember the last time i read an oversized issue that contained so many plots, so many seeds of new plots, great character moments, tributes to the past incarnations of the character and just flatout beatifully written Superman and Lex Luthor. I am so scared of so many #1s coming this month because ActioN Comics creates truly new language to comics where the protagonist doens't stop at all, even as Clark Kent who is truly is Superman (they are one and the same, the ultimate truth) they never stop, they never stop fightning crime and corruption, this is the worker blue-collar hero of the people! Faster than a speeding bullet! Stronger then a locomotive! Able to jump tall buildings in a single bound! It's a bird! No! A Plane! NO! IT's Superman! If i had to rate this i'd give it an 10/10 rating easily, i can forgive some questionable eyes and anatomy on the body from Rag Morales, because this pacing and this story telling is out of this world, eat your hearts Johns, Bendis and Brubaker, the king is still unquestionably Grant Morrison. Learn from the master. I mean holy crap does this issue provide so much context i could just repeat myself over and over. Superman's personal life values we see a map of the space itself, picture of his parents and a book with a candle showing what an intellectual and family loving man he is, his work is busting out corruption and he beats up monster people the greedy filthy humans of our society, pure awesomeness. I love the reinvention of
Steel as an government soldier, since thats what Luthor alludes with the proect
and i liked the
Legion
reference thru the landlord, so we know Clark used to be the kansas Superboy aswell. Can any single issue outdo this masterpiece? I doubt it, and thats going to suck, because this issue really spoiled me. Oh and i love how Luthor referred Superman as an "It". Classic.
 
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