The Official Superman Thread - Part 4

[Spade]

Whether he is or isn't, someone had to have started it, and Superman doesn't seem like much of a seamstress. The flag symbolism is what cinched it for me as true. Plus, the design's popularity means Clark never needs to admit he goes to one particular place for replacements.

 

[Zionite1]

You know as much as I like as Morrisons try at a Golden age Superman Its pretty clear that he is more suited to a Silver age Superman.All the craziness he keeps injecting in Action comics.. thats pure Silver age.Waid would have been a better fit for Golden age Supes.My dream wish would have been to have Waid writing Action comics from start and Morrison writing the Superman comics-those comics reallly need his Silver age craziness.God we need waid back.
Okay on to Action comics 11.I enjoyed it for waht it was butt the whole Nutant thing is bringing Xmen nightmares.
I liked the Tshirt story at the end as it was a good Clark kent story.Bit confusedthough.wasnt Action comics 0 supposed to tell the Tshirt story Instead.

I feel like using three thumbs up signs is obnoxious. One gets your point across perfectly adequately.

Agreed.

I don't know, between that preview and last month's scene with the Justice League, it seems like the new Superman is kind of a reckless idiot who applies overly simplistic solutions to complex problems without really considering all of the consequences. But who knows, maybe rebuilding a bunch of apartments with absolutely no construction experience and no consideration for the economy or the new development's effects on the overall community will somehow work out for the best.

Thats exactly waht Golden age Superman is.A man who does what is right without ever considering political jabbberjabbber.I like it.

 

[Zionite1]

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[Lord Fanny]

You've got to learn to use the space bar, dude.

 

[redhawk23]

While I enjoy Action Comics it makes me feel month to month that I completely missed something or like I'm just picking up a random issue nearly completely cold.

 

[CConn]

Read them slower. And really let the meanIng behind every panel sink in.

It'll make more sense then.

 

[Kal Kent]

There's been some superheroes during the last decades that today looks fine losing the 1930-50:s "strongman trunks", and Batman is a great comparision here. But with Supes I'm with you all the way, I just think (IMHO that is of course) Superman looks bland without them trunks, be it looking outdated or not.

That little red stripe (yeah, the "belt"..) around his waist doesn't make up to all that blue that takes over completely. And of course that collar is just silly, I'm glad it seems like we at least don't have to see that stupidity on the screen in Cavill's version.

I respect Jim Lee and the quality of art he produces but it doesn't mean he should be in charge of designing characters. No matter how well done(or poorly done) the 52 uniform or any other interpretation of Superman costume is done, it will always look "off". 74 years the Superman costume has pretty much be unchanged, barring minor alterations and artistic renditions. Superman is the equivalent to Coca Cola. Drastically change the logo and it will never look right to you. Even my 3 yr old asked me where Superman's red underpants went. Changes must happen but they must happen in a slow and logical way.

 

[CConn]

Eh, not always. Back in 2005, DC drastically changed their logo for the first time in a long time, and everyone freaked out about how ugly and un-iconic it was, and how it was the herald to the end of all things...

7 years later, it seemed like a perfectly ingrained part of DC Comics that people were actually disappointed to see go.

And that's exactly what'll happen with the Superman suit. New readers and fans picked up from the upcoming (trunk-less) MOS movie won't even notice, most old fans will just grow accustomed to it and start to not even notice it, and the only small fragment of the populace who actually does continue to care will be viewed as pointlessly petty and bitter.

 

[redhawk23]

Read them slower. And really let the meanIng behind every panel sink in.

It'll make more sense then.

Its more of a matter of how little time is spent on things from issue to issue and jumping around in universes and time, almost to the point where this title reads like more of an anthology.

 

[redhawk23]

Eh, not always. Back in 2005, DC drastically changed their logo for the first time in a long time, and everyone freaked out about how ugly and un-iconic it was, and how it was the herald to the end of all things...

7 years later, it seemed like a perfectly ingrained part of DC Comics that people were actually disappointed to see go.

And that's exactly what'll happen with the Superman suit. New readers and fans picked up from the upcoming (trunk-less) MOS movie won't even notice, most old fans will just grow accustomed to it and start to not even notice it, and the only small fragment of the populace who actually does continue to care will be viewed as pointlessly petty and bitter.

I think its more of a matter of whatever qualms people had about that logo, the pudding cup lid they've adopted as their logo now is almost objectively worse.

 

[CConn]

I think its more of a matter of whatever qualms people had about that logo, the pudding cup lid they've adopted as their logo now is almost objectively worse.

Don't needlessly dilute the point.

After the first couple of months, no one ever complained (or even mentioned, really) the logo. It was merely a part of DC Comics that blended into the larger tapestry. That's the point.

 

[Scarecrow_King]

I always liked their 2005 logo change. The star with the swooshy circle kept the same basics about the old logo, but gave it a much-needed modernization.

If they do ever get rid of the nu52, I'd hope they'd go back to that logo.

 

[redhawk23]

Don't needlessly dilute the point.

After the first couple of months, no one ever complained (or even mentioned, really) the logo. It was merely a part of DC Comics that blended into the larger tapestry. That's the point.

I'm just saying the fact that people have complained now has quite a bit to do with what it was changed to, not just that it was changed.

 

[HighFivingMF]

Action Comics Annual to be released this Halloween.

ACTION COMICS ANNUAL #1

Written by Sholly Fisch

Art and cover by Cully Hamner

Backup story written by Max Landis

Backup story art by Ryan Sook

On sale OCTOBER 31 • 48 pg, FC, $4.99 US • RATED T

The secrets of the “missing five years” between when Clark Kent came to Metropolis and the present day continue to be revealed!
In the wake of Brainiac’s attack on Metropolis, Superman faces his first Earth-born villain: the Kryptonite Man!
Plus a special backup story written by screenwriter of CHRONICLE, Max Landis!

 

[CConn]

I'm just saying the fact that people have complained now has quite a bit to do with what it was changed to, not just that it was changed.

But again, I wasn't referring to that.

I was referring to the people who went from hating it to being fine with it.

The new logo is of little consequence.

 

[HighFivingMF]

I've never come across the name before. Is Sholly Fisch a man or a woman? Either way, I think he/she would do better on the Superman title than Lobdell.

 

[Watchman]

Time to over-analyze the **** out of Action. So this is the introduction of the mysterious starchild Susie. To me her most interesting line is, "Imagine if everyone if everyone had every ever all at the same time- what would it sound like backwards?" Once again signs point everyone's favorite fifth dimensional imp.

But wait there's more. Aside from the obvious backwards name reference, Lois and Susie talk about imagination quite a bit. Lois referring to Susie having an "imagination the size of Texas" and that a spaceman from her dreams told her about the geometrical shapes. Way back in R.I.P Bat-Mite told Bruce that the Fifth Dimension was imagination. In Morrison's Invisibles one thing that was brought up from a few times was travelling from one dimension to another. That high realms were incomprehensible to human thought. There is some Satanic references being tossed around a bit maybe Mxy is some sort of "fallen angel" coming from a higher dimension into ours taking a shape of something we can comprehend, a little impish man.

Also, in this issue it's Superman vs. the ubermensch, the first superman. I don't think Blake is evil but like the Collector A.I. Superman's enemy is a being of pure intellectual evolution, cold and non-emotional. A dark mirror of what Superman could have been without the Ma and Pa influence. Like Luthor's prediction of a sterile enemy in the first story. This is the hyper moral Superman vs. not pure evil but uncaring coldness. The enemies so far have been a computer program, faceless corporate entities, a god like being that is well beyond having to concern itself with humans, and now the first emotionless Superman. While Metallo and the Anti-Superman Army are just people being manipulated.

Also, Superman smirking at the notion of something being impossible was awesome. I love this book.

 

[CConn]

^ I need to train myself to think like that more often. It's incredible that Grant can't squeeze that much into a single issue, then do it over and over again with different meanings each time every month.

 

[Watchman]

Yeah, the same ideas in New Adventures of Hitler will pop up in something like All Star Superman but still feel fresh.

 

[Zionite1]

I have to say I think the artist who drew the Backup story draws a fantastic Tshirt and Jeans Superman.That poster in the Tshirt shop was EPIC.Id really love to see the Tshirt/Jeans look in a Superman Tv show someday

Also, Superman smirking at the notion of something being impossible was awesome. I love this book.

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It was my Favorite part of the book.It reminds me of that awesome moment in action comics 8 where Superman tells General lane-''Take it from me-nothing is impossible'' and then friggin leaps into SPACE!God that would be good on the big screen.

 

[HighFivingMF]

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[Watchman]

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I can't wait for Action 13. It sounds like it's going to be all sorts of Morrison crazy.

 

[HighFivingMF]

And Zod!

 

[Dangerman]

I have a question just how powerful is this Superboy? I mean he took a beating from Supergirl and it didn't even phase him.

 

[Anubis]

Powerful enough to take a beating from Supergirl that wont phase him.