The Official 'Thor Rate & Review' thread

[Doctor Jones]

If it starts out high on RT, that's usually a good sign. ST started out at 100% for a while until it ended being 94%

I really don't want to get my hope up. And I don't like reading reviews before. Because I'll have expectations. I want to go in just wanting a good film.

 

[terry78]

Yeah, Harry gushed over it of course. When he starts writing all incoherent, you know he's into it.

 

[Raiden]

I think Thor will probably open around 70-75 mil, but if the reviews are very good and the WOM is also terrific, I can see Thor making around 300 mil domestically. Thor will have 2 weeks for itself, before POTC4 comes out, and I think it will be able to rule the box office during this time. Nice to see that Thor is doing great in RT so far.

 

[mcvayd]

My review was one of the early ones posted and has been mentioned a couple of times on this board, how do i convince the moderator to add it to the list of reviews on the first post?

Here I'll try again, you never know I might get lucky

http://geekactually.com/2011/04/18/review-thor/

 

[mcvayd]

They both give great interviews , Jaimie Alexander seems to have a great sense of humor

She's lovely and I may just have a little crush on her, don't tell my wife

 

[Vartha]

Yeah, Harry gushed over it of course. When he starts writing all incoherent, you know he's into it.

Well I'm not over there all that often to know Harry gushes. lol

 

[kedrell]

If it starts out high on RT, that's usually a good sign. ST started out at 100% for a while until it ended being 94%

I really don't want to get my hope up. And I don't like reading reviews before. Because I'll have expectations. I want to go in just wanting a good film.

Well I've seen too many of these things go every which way imaginable to say anything early is truly indicative of how it will turn out. Seen'em start low and end high, start high and end low and everything in between. About the only thing that is more or less consistent is that after the first 25 reviews are in it's score isn't going to change much more than 5% in either direction from then on. So I really want to see where Thor will be when another 10 reviews come in. About the only film I can remember bucking this trend was Jackson's King Kong. It's first 25 reviews were all positive(100% fresh) and then the negatives started to roll in and it ended up with an 83%. But I think Jackson's rep post LOTR played a part in why that happened. Branagh won't have that effect.

 

[Weadazoid]

WIth strong reviews and high first out of the box summer anticipation


I say it hits 90 to 100 million opening

275 to 300 domestic

500 to 550 World wide.

It has next to nothing in terms of competion with it or behind it

I just am not sure about Fast Five..... the more I see the more I like, .....looks kewl where as 3 months ago I would have said it's a sure fire flop.... Having Duane Johnson in a movie normally kills it.

 

[kedrell]

The opening weekend largely falls on how good their marketing is. After that, quality determines how well it holds up. I really have no basis to judge how well Thor's marketing push is going or how effective it'll be since I don't even own a TV or radio. But I'm just naturally skeptical that Marvel can pull off a 100M OW for a virtually unknown property twice. That's why I'm guessing 75M OW. Seems pretty reasonable to me.

 

[Flemm]

Well, in this case, the OW will be partly a test of Marvel's tie-in or universe-building strategy, whatever you want to call it. In that sense, Thor is somewhere in between an entirely unknown property and a sequel. Closer to a new property, obviously, but Marvel is clearly hoping that IM, Thor and Cap boost one another. I'm not sure if anyone really knows what effect, if any, that will have at the box office.

 

[Microchip]

The opening weekend largely falls on how good their marketing is. After that, quality determines how well it holds up. I really have no basis to judge how well Thor's marketing push is going or how effective it'll be since I don't even own a TV or radio. But I'm just naturally skeptical that Marvel can pull off a 100M OW for a virtually unknown property twice. That's why I'm guessing 75M OW. Seems pretty reasonable to me.

I'd say it's on par or maybe slightly less than Iron Man 2. There's a lot of tie-in products, I'm seeing more commercials for it every day on TV and on youtube, and there are plenty of posters at bus stops and on buildings around my house.

As for radio, I think those commercials only show up a few days in advance of a movie and then throughout its run.

 

[kedrell]

Well, in this case, the OW will be partly a test of Marvel's tie-in or universe-building strategy, whatever you want to call it. In that sense, Thor is somewhere in between an entirely unknown property and a sequel. Closer to a new property, obviously, but Marvel is clearly hoping that IM, Thor and Cap boost one another. I'm not sure if anyone really knows what effect, if any, that will have at the box office.

Yeah that's kind of up in the air just how much of an impact it will have since(as far as I know) it's never really been done this way before. So there's no template to look at to use as an example. All I know is that IM1's success didn't exactly light a fire under people's butts to see TIH( but then TIH was in a fairly unique situation that none of the other Marvel films will be in).

 

[Microchip]

All I know is that IM1's success didn't exactly light a fire under people's butts to see TIH( but then TIH was in a fairly unique situation that none of the other Marvel films will be in).

People didn't really know about the plans for the tie in yet though, and even so they really played up the Stark cameo towards the end of the marketing campaign.

What are you referring to about TIH having been in a unique situation? Being a reboot?

 

[kedrell]

Well, not being the film debut of the character and having to follow a movie that WAS the film debut and one that was largely hated to boot. I'd say that's a fairly unique situation that no other Marvel character's film had to deal with.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

I wonder what the box office intake will be on opening weekend?

 

[kedrell]

That's what we're wondering. Anything high 50M's and up is a positive sign. Lower than that, we're in trouble.

 

[Raiden]

The opening weekend largely falls on how good their marketing is. After that, quality determines how well it holds up. I really have no basis to judge how well Thor's marketing push is going or how effective it'll be since I don't even own a TV or radio. But I'm just naturally skeptical that Marvel can pull off a 100M OW for a virtually unknown property twice. That's why I'm guessing 75M OW. Seems pretty reasonable to me.

Yeah, I also attribute IM's OW partly to RDJ, who although had his share of personal problems nevertheless was an Oscar nominee and quite well-known in Hollywood. Aside from the fact that the GA doesn't know much about Thor (like they did with IM), Chris Hemsworth is still a newcomer (although I think he will become a star after Thor), and leading man does count for alot for OW.

 

[kedrell]

Yeah but RDJ was never big. He was known for a long time but prior to Iron Man he'd never even had so much as a bit part in a film that made it to 100M domestic. Everything he was in were low grossers. His best film showing prior(and it was just a small role) was Back To School with 91M.

 

[BoredGuy]

Yeah RDJ was the butt of jokes in hollywood for about a decade....then he got some critical acclaim on Scanner Darkly, Zodiac, and Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. It was as a result of the acting chops he showed there that got him Iron Man, in addition to his life experience. Then he really blew up.

And yet everyone here acts like when IM came out, RDJ was this A-lister who pulled in millions of viewers by name alone.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Yup. People knew RDJ more for his drug abuse and antics rather than his acting. Iron man changed that. I mean people were pissed when he was cast. I can't imagin why. I didn't know who he was at 14 when they announced it, but when I looked into him, then watched Zodiac in 2007, he was perfect.

 

[Flemm]

All I know is that IM1's success didn't exactly light a fire under people's butts to see TIH.

True, but awareness of the shared universe was much lower at that time. This summer will be a much better test of the strategy. Particularly Thor's opening weekend, I think, since it is the first in line and a property that is, essentially, completely unknown.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Nice 1st post summary WT

RT now 94%, 15-1 +ve, 7/10!!

Thank you, sir.

My review was one of the early ones posted and has been mentioned a couple of times on this board, how do i convince the moderator to add it to the list of reviews on the first post?

Here I'll try again, you never know I might get lucky

http://geekactually.com/2011/04/18/review-thor/

Either I overlooked it or you were a victim of copy/paste gone horribly awry. It's there now.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Well I've seen too many of these things go every which way imaginable to say anything early is truly indicative of how it will turn out. Seen'em start low and end high, start high and end low and everything in between. About the only thing that is more or less consistent is that after the first 25 reviews are in it's score isn't going to change much more than 5% in either direction from then on. So I really want to see where Thor will be when another 10 reviews come in. About the only film I can remember bucking this trend was Jackson's King Kong. It's first 25 reviews were all positive(100% fresh) and then the negatives started to roll in and it ended up with an 83%. But I think Jackson's rep post LOTR played a part in why that happened. Branagh won't have that effect.

True. Big blockbusters are usually unpredictable. Only if they look really bad like Wolverine then it's predictable.

But this movie definitely isn't making over $100 opening weekend. I'm still going with the $60 mil range.

 

[BoredGuy]

I knew he'd be awesome because of Scanner Darkly, and because of his life, it fit perfectly, I never doubted RDJ from the second he was announced.

But I also remember him back in Weird Science and that movie with the ghosts

^darn kids!

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

Are you all kidding? I know a ton of people who went to the cinema just because of RDJ. Our generation grew up with movies like Weird Science and of course Chaplin. RDJ might not have been on Brad Pitt levels but he was definatly the reason they went to the cinemas.