The Official TIH Preview Thread

[Hulkfan2008!]

Can someone tell me why Hulk needs to use a car to beat up Abom when is his skin is probably tougher and more durable than the car he's using?

why do boxers use boxing gloves

 

[Nathan]

why do boxers use boxing gloves

How about it's a sport and they don't want to seriously injure each other? Hulk Vs. Abomination isn't a friendly boxing match.

 

[Comicfan]

Whatever. The point still stands.

Different director, diferent approach

 

[Sentinel X]

I watch the TV spot again and the "come on" is definitely different. The TV Spot one is darker and scarier...I like it more
but its still all good.

 

[Hulkfan2008!]

I watch the TV spot again and the "come on" is definitely different. The TV Spot one is darker and scarier...I like it more
but its still all good.

its just slower

 

[Comicfan]

why do boxers use boxing gloves

To soften the blows...?

 

[Hulkfan2008!]

so hulk adds more damage

 

[El Payaso]

Although a speechless character can convey powerful personality, the Hulk is a character who loses so much characterization and personality being speechless. By nature he's opinionated and doesn't ever hold his tongue voicing his opinion. He speaks his mind and calls it as he sees it, despite the majority. He's not always right but he's always honest coming from his perspective.

A facet of the Hulk that makes him interesting and human.

I always thought Bruce Banner was the opinionated human side iof the Hulk, and Hulk was the monstrous raging mindless part of him.

I understand that for a comic book, it was quite useful to have the monster talking, specially if he was the main character.

In the end I’m more worried about how ridiculous it might be for a green giant monster to talk, whether describing what he’s doing (redundancy) expressing opinions or, in Abomination’s case, throwing generic action movie cliché-lines on a movie that I'm wanting to take seriously.

King Kong is a giant Ape, Ape's can't talk. Abomination is a person who, through over exposure to a serum is mutated into a monster. Emil Blonsky can talk, why would he suddenly STOP being able to talk just because he's changed? King Kong and A-Bomb aren't the same thing, in fact they aren't even in the same ballpark.

I don’t think reasoning this on a realistic base can give us any valid answer. For a starter, any kind of radiation overdose will give you burnts, cancer and/or death, so to state that it’s perfectly natural that the person irradiated is still able to talk is rather far fetched.

My King Kong example, nevertheless, was provided merely to rule out the theory that talking equals personality (and thus the necessity for it). I could have named Chaplin’s vagabond all the same.

Hulk and Abomi speaking is nothing but an artistic choice. While as for comics I see it working, on movies I’m afraid it could be particularly ridiculous, specially if you’ll have the monster throwing Die Hard-type of lines.

 

[Spade]

The Abomination has scratches on him from the hits he took. I imagine that it wasn't so much that Hulk needed to protect his hands as he needed a hard tool to break through his skin. If there's alot of force behind an object, it can dole out far more damage than it would of its own accord. Plus, the cars have more mass than his hands. If you watch the fight, the Abomination is taking whole hits to his body with each blow that Hulk's hands wouldn't be able to deliver by themselves.

You could just chalk it up to this film trying to hit every Hulk medium in its running time, but there is a logic to it.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

The Abomination has scratches on him from the hits he took. I imagine that it wasn't so much that Hulk needed to protect his hands as he needed a hard tool to break through his skin. If there's alot of force behind an object, it can dole out far more damage than it would of its own accord. Plus, the cars have more mass than his hands. If you watch the fight, the Abomination is taking whole hits to his body with each blow that Hulk's hands wouldn't be able to deliver by themselves.

You could just chalk it up to this film trying to hit every Hulk medium in its running time, but there is a logic to it.

The "gloves" also give the Hulk considerably longer reach, as A-Bomb is far bigger than he is. An excellent strategy, and proof that somewhere deep inside, the mind of Bruce Banner still exists.

 

[irapogi]

They put them in the movie, cos it looks good. end of discussion.
I don't know why there's a debate to begin with.

That's why it's a movie. You have to go a bit out of your way to make it enjoyable.
If jackie chan wanted to be realistic in his movies, he'd go straight for the lethal hits, and won't look back. Would that be cool? only to a few, perhaps.

But instead, he makes the fight into a sort of dance, working with chroeography, and comedic timing, and stage combat, and performance martial arts, to give enjoyable scenes, that many people look forward to when watching his films.

You guys have to remember that TIH is still a movie. A MOVIE.
It's not a boxing match on espn, it's not happening outside.. it's happening on the screen.
So sit back, and enjoy it.

i know i will

 

[Savage Jay]

I saw Godman's comments and this is what I need to say to the Gentleman. First, I have been a fan since 1977 and saw every direction that writers and directors had taken with the Hulk. For myself, I love this "go-back-to-the-basics" Savage Hulk approach in the film. I think the audiences were getting lost in the pyschological drama of Ang Lee's Hulk. To have such a sophisticated and complex direction off the bat before seeing a Hulk doing what he does the best isn't wise and not very cost productive.
I do applaud you if you want something like what Peter David done with the Hulk during his first highly sucessful tenure on the book but I am of the old "Hulk smash" school of thinking too as my name on here indicates. I think your blashing of the film because of the direction and not the legitmate merits of the film is wrong. We are still getting the Hulk that we know and love but more in the lines of the Savage Hulk.

Savage Jay

 

[Jick]

How about it's a sport and they don't want to seriously injure each other? Hulk Vs. Abomination isn't a friendly boxing match.

but even in boxing, the impact is the same.
the purposes of the gloves are to soften the injuries of the hands of the boxer. the injuries applied in the opponent are the same. it's the principle of action and reaction.

They put them in the movie, cos it looks good. end of discussion.

 

[Nivek]

I always thought Bruce Banner was the opinionated human side iof the Hulk, and Hulk was the monstrous raging mindless part of him.

I understand that for a comic book, it was quite useful to have the monster talking, specially if he was the main character.

In the end I’m more worried about how ridiculous it might be for a green giant monster to talk, whether describing what he’s doing (redundancy) expressing opinions or, in Abomination’s case, throwing generic action movie cliché-lines on a movie that I'm wanting to take seriously.

The Hulk talks. He has talked in every media incarnation for almost 50 years except for the 30 year old TV show. This is not a matter of opinion or what people prefer, this is like having Superman without his cape. The Hulk should talk. And I believe he will talk in this movie.

 

[Danalys]

we should definitely hear a hulk smash at some point. i'd like it if some character probably blonsky calls him hulk before, hopefully just before, since i don't think the hulk should be naming himself. some thing like "no! you're just some dumb hulk" "hulk smash!"

 

[Spade]

Well, in this film his origin seems to rely on emotional memory. So calling out to Betty would make sense. "Hulk smash"...well, if he's called Hulk while Banner's in control he could remember his given name. The "smash" part could just be a threat. Threats tend to be redundant (I'm gonna kill you, etc.).

 

[El Payaso]

The Hulk talks. He has talked in every media incarnation for almost 50 years except for the 30 year old TV show.

Which this version is having as a source of inspiration.

And you forgot to mention Ang's movie.

So comics and cartoons have been the place of talking Hulk so far and when it's about the live-action, he has been a growling monster.

This is not a matter of opinion or what people prefer,

Is, in fact, a matter of artistic vision approach and decision.

this is like having Superman without his cape.

That's visual identity. Like changing Hulk's skin color. Nevertheless it worked so good turning Batman's suit into blaxk that you never know when things can be imrproved for the adaptation.

The Hulk should talk.

I respect that as an opinion. I'd just like to hear the elaboration of it.

 

[Spade]

The TV show is not the only source of inspiration, as I've mentioned before. Betty being a scientist? The cartoons. The police car "gloves"? Ultimate Destruction. The Abomination? Comics. The Hulk himself? He looks like a Deodato Jr. drawing with 3D shape. 2 of the 3 interpretations I just mentioned had the Hulk talking intelligibly, so it'd make sense that in this amalgram of Hulk mythos he'd talk. Furthermore, Leterrier already mentioned that this is not a movie version of the TV show. The TV show is just one aspect of the greater adaptation.

 

[El Payaso]

The TV show is not the only source of inspiration, as I've mentioned before. Betty being a scientist? The cartoons. The police car "gloves"? Ultimate Destruction. The Abomination? Comics. The Hulk himself? He looks like a Deodato Jr. drawing with 3D shape. 2 of the 3 interpretations I just mentioned had the Hulk talking intelligibly, so it'd make sense that in this amalgram of Hulk mythos he'd talk. Furthermore, Leterrier already mentioned that this is not a movie version of the TV show. The TV show is just one aspect of the greater adaptation.

I kinda knew. But it could be inspirating a growling Hulk.

 

[Hulkfan2008!]

dude hulk has growled in every adaption he's been in, not just the show.

 

[Savage]

The thing is the Hulk is a separate creature altogether. Banner and Hulk do not acknowledge each other as the same being. They just happen to share the same body (and love interest until recently).

Hulk has his own points of views and opinions, as simple as they may be, and does express them (again, usually in simple terms). The Hulk is not just pure rage. He's a creature that shows up as a RESULT of Banner getting angry. Once Hulk calms down, he doesn't usually revert back to Banner. He kind of just walks around like that (or jumps, rather). It's a fight for control in Bruce Banner's own body and there have been times when Bruce Banner would go to sleep only to wake up somewhere else entirely (but that's way later as the Hulk personality gets stronger).

Hulk is not Bruce Banner. Hulk is his own person and this is why he talks and should talk in other mediums besides comic books as well.

 

[NoirMan82]

but even in boxing, the impact is the same.
the purposes of the gloves are to soften the injuries of the hands of the boxer. the injuries applied in the opponent are the same. it's the principle of action and reaction.

Has anyone ever boxed before? I have, and let me tell you, I would rather get hit by bare knuckles than a fist in a boxing glove. Those thing frickin' hurt! It's pure concussive force. I can only imagine what the car fist feel like to A-bomb...ouch.

 

[Kirmit]

Has anyone ever boxed before? I have, and let me tell you, I would rather get hit by bare knuckles than a fist in a boxing glove. Those thing frickin' hurt! It's pure concussive force. I can only imagine what the car fist feel like to A-bomb...ouch.

Yeah would hurt, yet all abomb says is 'Is that all you've got?', man he's one tough cookie, can't wait!

 

[GoblinWhirlwind]

So are there no direct download links to any of the clips other than the 3rd one?

 

[Kryptonian Warrior]

Check out how incredibly detailed his muscles are. The CG has taken a HUGE leap forward, that's for sure. This is right after he tears the cop car in half, and again look at his eyes, I guess the glow is always going to be there. I'm not complaining at all, because I think it's cool as hell. Do you guys think that there will be at least one moment in the film where you will here a newer version from the 70's version of the TV HULK, of the sound of Banner changing into the HULK? Anyway, here is that image that I was talking about at the beginning of this rant.