The Official Tom Welling Thread

[RakuMon]

Ya know, combined these two threads have 1800 posts!

 

[Gmanofsteel]

 

[AgentPat]

How did this thread get trumped by the "Tom Welling Should Have Been Superman" thread?

That one already has 1000 posts?!

Kinda says somethin', dunt it?

(The "Fratboy" thread was merged into the first one, thank goodness. It was only attracting trolls anyway.)

 

[RakuMon]

Here are the ratings breakdown from K-site:

"Spell" Ratings!
Proving that four characters in skimpy outfits isn't the only thing you need to get ratings, Smallville ended up at what it seems to be its usual fourth-place finish. But the more important question is: Someone actually watches LAX?

Here's the overnight ratings breakdown:

Timeslot Rank Show Network Overnight Rating (Last week's rating in parentheses)
#1 Lost ABC 12.2/18 (12.7/18)
#2 60 Minutes CBS 6.7/10 (#2*)
#3 LAX NBC 5.9/9 (5.8/8)
#4 Smallville WB 4.8/7 (5.0/7)
#5 That 70's Show (8-8:30) FOX 4.7/7 (4.4/7)
#6 America's Next Top Model UPN 4.3/7 (4.6/7)
#7 Quintuplets (8:30-9) FOX 3.5/5 (3.3/5)

 

[Thunder Emperor]

anyone listen to bringer singers interview on the movie and why he picked brando Routh, and not welling

 

[Gmanofsteel]

Smallville = Best show ever

 

[Superman1980]

anyone listen to bringer singers interview on the movie and why he picked brando Routh, and not welling

no, where can i hear this? is it online?

 

[solidsnake86]

Look at it this way, if Welling was cast we would probably not see a good finale for Smallville, and plus we will most likely get another season of it.

 

[Serene]

no, where can i hear this? is it online?

Here you go:

http://www.themoviebox.net/php/news...ull&id=1100196346&archive=&start_from=&ucat=&

 

[rumpuso]

I read somewhere at some point (maybe from a post from James?) that Fox studios was interested in Tom. I'm just curious if that still holds true so that when Smallville ends, Tom may have some options open to him.

 

[jas01724]

Very much so unless things have changed very recently - and nothing suggests that's the case.

 

[rumpuso]

Thanks James...that's actually comforting to know being a fan of his. If he isn't slotted to do the Superman movie, then I certainly would love for him to find success on the big screen so we can continue to follow his career after the end of Smallville. I'll never forget a conversation I had last year with a former agent who said if Tom was her client, she would advise him that he should not go on to do the Superman movie because he has the Brad Pitt vibe going for him and will go on to do great things in the movies. She predicts he will make it very big once Smallville ends, if he continues to make wise choices.

 

[Frantik]

Thanks James...that's actually comforting to know being a fan of his. If he isn't slotted to do the Superman movie, then I certainly would love for him to find success on the big screen so we can continue to follow his career after the end of Smallville. I'll never forget a conversation I had last year with a former agent who said if Tom was her client, she would advise him that he should not go on to do the Superman movie because he has the Brad Pitt vibe going for him and will go on to do great things in the movies. She predicts he will make it very big once Smallville ends, if he continues to make wise choices.

And you know what rumpuso, that is it in a nutshell. I just want to see him do lots of work on that big screen. It didn't have to be supes at all and infact I can remember when we didn't want him to do supes because we wanted to make sure he had a nice long career ensuring us lots of Tom viewing for years to come. So as long as that fine man graces the screen in various roles, I will be a very happy Tom Welling fan.

 

[The Batman]

Thats what I find funny. People want him to be Superman, which would destroy his career.

 

[jas01724]

Longevity and making smart career choices is precisely why I have been spouting off about not wanting him to do the Superman movie - or any superhero movie for that matter. It has nothing to do with thinking he couldn't pull it off.

 

[Serene]

I'll never forget a conversation I had last year with a former agent who said if Tom was her client, she would advise him that he should not go on to do the Superman movie because he has the Brad Pitt vibe going for him and will go on to do great things in the movies. She predicts he will make it very big once Smallville ends, if he continues to make wise choices.

It was not that long ago, that we were comparing TW to BP. I think it was probably in this very thread. BP is a good example of a great-looking actor who managed to make career choices that didn't rely solely on his looks.. and successfully.

I'll never be convinced that TW wasn't the best choice for the Supes movie, but I'm okay with seeing him have a successful career in other films. I don't envy him having to make that choice though (if indeed it was his to make).

 

[Serene]

In trying to look something up, I ran across this old interview with Al Gough posted on Kryptonsite. It's from 2001. I thought it was pretty interesting reading in light of all our recent discussions.


"It took us longer to find Tom Welling, who plays Clark. The challenge was how do you find Superman before he was Superman. It’s like looking for Harry Potter or Anakin Skywalker.

We really wanted a fresh face, someone who wouldn’t be identified with any other role. We had casting directors all over the country looking, and we saw 100s of actors in person and on videotape, but nobody popped for us. Then Tom came in. He's just one of these guys who has star quality. Not only did he have the right look, but he also had that right sort of spirit -- you could see him becoming Superman. There's a gentleness, but also real strength. We had him read with Kristin at the network - wow - talk about chemistry. We couldn't be happier."

 

[Gmanofsteel]

wow, thats a nice recap from the past

 

[triplet]

Thats what I find funny. People want him to be Superman, which would destroy his career.

That's why I was torn on the whole thing, but I figure now it's just as well.

I mean, it would in the long run be bad for his career but he woulda been so good in that film.

Oh, well. Hopefully he'll have a nice long career, which may not be the case for Routh actually. Wearing the tights has always been hard on a career. Hopefully he can escape the cape...

 

[AgentPat]

Just read an article in Daily Variety about the current ratings wars (what else is new?) among networks and what we might see come January. The one for The WB was particularly interesting...

Daily Variety
Posted: Sun., Nov. 14, 2004

Nets wonder about winter
January sked tweaks gain in importance as ratings race tightens
By RICK KISSELL


WB

"Biggest priority should be moving "Smallville" to 9 on Wednesday to get it away from "Lost" and to feed off of viewers looking for good drama after the ABC skein ends. Returning drama "Summerland" would work nicely as "Smallville's" lead-in..."

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117913469?categoryid=14&cs=1


It'll be be interesting to see if this does indeed happen. The 9pm slot is much more lucrative in terms of advertising dollars because there are inherently more viewers watching television at that time than there are at 8. And while the show IS holding its own right now with an average of over 5 million per ep in all demos, more viewers are always welcome. It would mean more revenue back to the Frog and translate to a solid not-likely-to-be-canceled-in-the-near-future stance by the studio.

 

[jas01724]

The thing is, they put in in the Wednesday 8pm slot BECAUSE it's a fairly difficult slot, and they trust (or trusted) Smallville to have a respectable, if not necessarily fantastic rating. They were counting on it losing viewers compared to what it had Tuesdays at 9pm, but still holding on to more viewers than any of their other shows would get - which of their other shows (Summerland? Pah!) would even be likely to get 5 million against "Lost"? The idea was to strengthen their entire weekly schedule.

They have to decide whether they'd rather lose viewers in the 8pm timeslot but (hopefully) get their money and ratings back for Smallville by moving it to a more lucative slot, or whether they want to trust Smallville to keep the timeslot steady.

 

[Lara]

The down side of moving it is alot of kids like mine can't stay up past 9. We enjoy Smallville as a family. I'm all for what is best for ratings though.

 

[rumpuso]

Just read an article in Daily Variety about the current ratings wars (what else is new?) among networks and what we might see come January. The one for The WB was particularly interesting...

Daily Variety
Posted: Sun., Nov. 14, 2004

Nets wonder about winter
January sked tweaks gain in importance as ratings race tightens
By RICK KISSELL


WB

"Biggest priority should be moving "Smallville" to 9 on Wednesday to get it away from "Lost" and to feed off of viewers looking for good drama after the ABC skein ends. Returning drama "Summerland" would work nicely as "Smallville's" lead-in..."

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117913469?categoryid=14&cs=1


It'll be be interesting to see if this does indeed happen. The 9pm slot is much more lucrative in terms of advertising dollars because there are inherently more viewers watching television at that time than there are at 8. And while the show IS holding its own right now with an average of over 5 million per ep in all demos, more viewers are always welcome. It would mean more revenue back to the Frog and translate to a solid not-likely-to-be-canceled-in-the-near-future stance by the studio.

While I cross my fingers that this suggested move back to the 9:00 pm timeslot happens for Smallville's sake, I suspect that several factors will weigh heavily on this decision...namely whether the movie decision puts enough pressure on the tv division to give Smallville the early cancellation in order to put as much time between Smallville the hugely popular tv show and the upcoming 2006 Superman movie. We've heard that Bryan Singer is not going to disrespect what Smallville has established so the early cancellation bells may no longer be an issue. However, if that is still a factor, then there would be no need to move Smallville at this time to the 9:00 pm slot - rather they may want to actually move the fairly new show Summerland to that slot. The WB seems to take a more active approach with their newer shows rather than the shows which have been on for a number of years. Plus, the WB currently does not have any new shows which are doing well, so they may just want to highly promote the return of Summerland in the 9:00 pm slot. Like I mentioned earlier, I think a lot of this depends on what their long term intentions are with Smallville. It is still bringing in consistent ratings and it is still one of the top shows for commercial dollars from what I hear, so I shall remain here with my fingers crossed that the WB votes in favor of a Smallville move.

 

[Bruce_Wayne29]

Remember that teaser trailer for Crusade where you hear the narrator say "A new season that will bring a legend to life !" ? Could that mean that this one will be the last season since that hinted to Clark fulfilling his destiny ?
Plus, if they go on to season 5 which most definitly should be the last one and Al and Miles have said that while the others go to collegue Clark stays behind, if they miraculously make it to the 6th season will that center on him in collegue ?

On a side note, if they make Clark travel the world that would also be a perfect way to make him bump into Bruce Wayne (who is also travelling the world in his training). Just an idea.

 

[The Sage]

I hope the legend does come to life, cause so far...